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Reply #60 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 4:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 4:05pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 11:49am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 11:39am:

freediver wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 11:24am:

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Your again misunderstand "mostly on the internet" - as if joe blow has the greatest input into any given topic.

If you are using google's AI summary, that is what you get.

The summary from the world's encyclopedias and much more.

Your problem?

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The fact that he knows nothing about it is no barrier to him commenting on it.

Your error: joe blow in't even aware of most of the knowledge on the internet.

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Take you, for instance. Have you figured out yet what unique tax breaks Australian property investors get?

Well I reckon the experts have a pretty good understanding of the unique tax breaks for Oz property investors - just google it; which is why they are all calling for the tax incentives to be repealed.

But politicians are driven by the voting power of greedy rent seekers...

You don't need to be an expert to figure that out. You just need to have half a brain.

Can you do it?

What, that greedy rent seekers refuse to countenance tax changes, thus maintaining the status quo in which the average wage worker is either oppressed by high rent or a massive mortgage.

Apparently you haven't even got "half a brain" to see it...

No parrot, I meant figure out what "unique tax breaks" landlords get.

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Reply #61 - Apr 8^th, 2026 at 11:14am

Housing Australia confirmed last week that since mid-2023 48,000 permanent residents have taken advantage of its 5% Deposit Scheme, where the government acts as guarantor to enable first home buyers to avoid lenders mortgage insurance and enter into the housing market with smaller deposits.

Permanent residents are also eligible for $10,000 grants under the federal government’s First Home Owner Grant Scheme, with 972 handed out in NSW alone last year, but there is no publicly available data on how many have been given to non-citizens.

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Reply #62 - Apr 8^th, 2026 at 2:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2026 at 11:55am:

Landlord upset in Victoria :

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Gz0C197DUTM

He’s right.
And yes, Victoria is the worst place to have an investment property.
That’s why we decided to buy interstate Qld instead. No BS land tax.

Near where my son lives, a $1.6 million house sold, it was investors and they said land tax will be over $3,600, then $2600 council rates, water/sewerage rates. And insurance about $2,500 and variable interest rates on whatever loan they got. Oh not forgetting over $90,000 stamp duty when buying.
Any wonder rent has to be ridiculously high.

They have had it on market to rent for $1,100 a week and within 2 weeks was leased!

I’m a bit astounded. Hubby guesses there’s 2 or 3 friends each sharing rent so it makes it affordable to live in a beautiful spacious house at the same time rather than a tiny unit each.

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Reply #63 - Apr 8^th, 2026 at 2:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2026 at 1:58pm:

lee wrote on Feb 21^st, 2026 at 1:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 21^st, 2026 at 11:47am:

these benefits combined with CGT discount are rarely available outside Oz.

Perhaps you can share any "intelligence" you may have. The CGT discount is in place of phantom gains. due to inflation. If you sell something and then buy again you have to pay the new "market price", not the previous price before inflation. Roll Eyes

yes - bad if you are buying back in.

This is true.
I had this very discussion with hubby saying once we sell, pay our agents selling fees, tax on rental income and CGT. What it comes down to in figures is way below buying it again. Paying stamp duty on top of purchase price.

We used to have nice tax breaks by claiming travel expenses to property to fix it up.
Then that tax benefit was obliterated, can’t claim travel to go check or fix property, we ended up getting tradies doing the jobs but at a higher cost it would’ve cost us otherwise as hubby is a tradie too and I’m just a clever tradies wife

Now I hear on the grapevine, starting from next 2026-2027 tax year, CGT used to be 50% tax free, it will lower down to .25%
It’s really taking out the fun in it all Angry

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Reply #64 - Apr 26^th, 2026 at 9:25am

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Master Builders Australia, CEO Denita Wawn: “The magnitude of the regulatory creep is magnified by Volume Two of the National Construction Code, which started out as a ‘glove box compendium’ for house builders, has grown from 93 pages in 1993 to 889 pages as it stands today.”
“The Productivity Commission estimates that each new home
bears regulatory costs of up to $320,000.

Builders are ready to build; they just need to be free from the red tape that has built up over the years.”

Well lets raise the taxes on investors that should bring down the cost of building a house.

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Reply #65 - Apr 26^th, 2026 at 9:32am

Sophia wrote on Apr 8^th, 2026 at 2:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2026 at 11:55am:

Landlord upset in Victoria :

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Gz0C197DUTM

He’s right.
And yes, Victoria is the worst place to have an investment property.
That’s why we decided to buy interstate Qld instead. No BS land tax.

Near where my son lives, a $1.6 million house sold, it was investors and they said land tax will be over $3,600, then $2600 council rates, water/sewerage rates. And insurance about $2,500 and variable interest rates on whatever loan they got. Oh not forgetting over $90,000 stamp duty when buying.
Any wonder rent has to be ridiculously high.

They have had it on market to rent for $1,100 a week and within 2 weeks was leased!

I’m a bit astounded. Hubby guesses there’s 2 or 3 friends each sharing rent so it makes it affordable to live in a beautiful spacious house at the same time rather than a tiny unit each.

It's all because of Dan Andrews - he borrowed $240 billion -
he bankrupted Victoria and now the Govt. is dreaming up new taxes all the time
just to pay the interest bill.
It's so bad that the Federal Govt. may have to bail Victoria out.

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Re: Housing Now An Investors Playground
Reply #66 - May 3^rd, 2026 at 4:09pm

May 2, 2026

The 1% have cooked our housing system, but the 1% can fix it: taxthe1percent.com.au

The richest 1% don’t get rich by working. They do it by buying and selling assets like real estate - and making the most of a rigged tax system.

Tax concessions like negative gearing and the capital gains tax discount overwhelmingly flow to the richest people in the country, making it even harder for anyone else to get ahead.

The reason we’re in this situation now is because politicians from Labor, Liberal and One Nation are in the pockets of the 1%.

We’re at a tipping point. We need to act now or we’ll end up with US-style economic inequality.

That's why we've launched a campaign to make the 1% pay their fair share - because it’s time to tax wealth, not wages. It’s time to deliver more for you, less for billionaires & big corporations.

Find out more at taxthe1percent.com.au

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Reply #67 - May 3^rd, 2026 at 5:19pm

Bobby. wrote on May 3^rd, 2026 at 4:09pm:

May 2, 2026

The 1% have cooked our housing system, but the 1% can fix it: taxthe1percent.com.au

The richest 1% don’t get rich by working. They do it by buying and selling assets like real estate - and making the most of a rigged tax system.

Tax concessions like negative gearing and the capital gains tax discount overwhelmingly flow to the richest people in the country, making it even harder for anyone else to get ahead.

The reason we’re in this situation now is because politicians from Labor, Liberal and One Nation are in the pockets of the 1%.

We’re at a tipping point. We need to act now or we’ll end up with US-style economic inequality.

That's why we've launched a campaign to make the 1% pay their fair share - because it’s time to tax wealth, not wages. It’s time to deliver more for you, less for billionaires & big corporations.

Find out more at taxthe1percen

So Bobby do you think by the government taxing investors will force builders to lower the cost of building a house. It makes sense though doesn't it, give the politicians more money and believe that's a sure way to lower prices.

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Re: Housing Now An Investors Playground
Reply #68 - May 3^rd, 2026 at 10:10pm

Because costs have been allowed - yea - encouraged to get way out of hand to suit a few over the majority - the only solution will be to lower costs of building - to cut the profits so that this investment becomes non-viable. The 'buildng industry' in the absence of any other real industry - is one of the mainstays of modern Australian economic theory!

So the idea is to bring as many people as needed to force more construction to cater to them! Grin

Heeey - Burka just got us another 2.9M citizens - those on temporary visas will now get the full nod!

So all that Medicare money will vanish like a politician's promise after an election... poof ... your schools will be overloaded, your police, your infrastructure, your hospitals and doctors all paid on Medicare....and the pressure on HOMING will rise and rise until it MUST collapse. You can say that nationalising these people does not raise the number here - but it does raise the costs for everyone else by raising the number to chew on the same dollar ... and have the same requirements to live here fully, eventually cop pensions and meantime cop social security, and fill out the aged care facilities and NDIS and Homecare for the aged etc.... maybe we shoudl just bring in MORE millions so that when they all age, they can take care of one another..... wait a minute... that doesn't quite compute...

The Madness of Labor continues... kick it down the road and nobody can even prove it will happen - until it does.. and the ONELNP might be in political power then and will be fair game...

Meantime the breakaway state of Queensland is planning to build oil refineries to re-boot the viable economy of genuine production and real earned wages with prosperity more evenly distributed...a good start onthe GAIA plans.

THEY can see the validity of a huge rail/road network across the land, riding over the oil reserves to the West Coast ores ans shipping good stuff every which way for production HERE ... and not a cent to me for finder's fee... typical... not even an offer of a job with no work to tide me over ...

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Re: Housing Now An Investors Playground
Reply #69 - Yesterday at 2:17pm

Leroy wrote on May 3^rd, 2026 at 5:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3^rd, 2026 at 4:09pm:

May 2, 2026

The 1% have cooked our housing system, but the 1% can fix it: taxthe1percent.com.au

The richest 1% don’t get rich by working. They do it by buying and selling assets like real estate - and making the most of a rigged tax system.

Tax concessions like negative gearing and the capital gains tax discount overwhelmingly flow to the richest people in the country, making it even harder for anyone else to get ahead.

The reason we’re in this situation now is because politicians from Labor, Liberal and One Nation are in the pockets of the 1%.

We’re at a tipping point. We need to act now or we’ll end up with US-style economic inequality.

That's why we've launched a campaign to make the 1% pay their fair share - because it’s time to tax wealth, not wages. It’s time to deliver more for you, less for billionaires & big corporations.

Find out more at taxthe1percen

So Bobby do you think by the government taxing investors will force builders to lower the cost of building a house. It makes sense though doesn't it, give the politicians more money and believe that's a sure way to lower prices.

The Greens seem to have a solution. Undecided

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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 20664 Gender:	Re: Housing Now An Investors Playground Reply #70 - Yesterday at 3:59pm Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 2:17pm: The Greens seem to have a solution. Just don't drink it.
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Leroy Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 4888 Gender:	Re: Housing Now An Investors Playground Reply #71 - Yesterday at 5:25pm If and thats a big if house prices fall then it would be prime conditions for investors to buy, they will know that house prices have to rise back to where they are within 3-4 years and the price drop will negate the extra cost of CGT. I can't believe we have politicians so distant from reality.
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Reply #72 - Yesterday at 5:36pm

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 2:17pm:

Leroy wrote on May 3^rd, 2026 at 5:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 3^rd, 2026 at 4:09pm:

May 2, 2026

The 1% have cooked our housing system, but the 1% can fix it: taxthe1percent.com.au

The richest 1% don’t get rich by working. They do it by buying and selling assets like real estate - and making the most of a rigged tax system.

Tax concessions like negative gearing and the capital gains tax discount overwhelmingly flow to the richest people in the country, making it even harder for anyone else to get ahead.

The reason we’re in this situation now is because politicians from Labor, Liberal and One Nation are in the pockets of the 1%.

We’re at a tipping point. We need to act now or we’ll end up with US-style economic inequality.

That's why we've launched a campaign to make the 1% pay their fair share - because it’s time to tax wealth, not wages. It’s time to deliver more for you, less for billionaires & big corporations.

Find out more at taxthe1percen

So Bobby do you think by the government taxing investors will force builders to lower the cost of building a house. It makes sense though doesn't it, give the politicians more money and believe that's a sure way to lower prices.

The Greens seem to have a solution. Undecided

A solution to what Bobby, 26% of the population rent private rentals compared to 3% renting government housing.

Increasing the tax on these investors is not going to push down the prices of houses, its going to raise rents to cover the costs. It will be more money going from the end user (renter) to the government.

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Reply #73 - Yesterday at 5:50pm

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May 4, 2026

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I reveal the brutal "Rental Contagion"—how removing 25,000 rental properties while importing 100,000 new migrants mathematically guarantees that Melbourne rents will violently explode. Do not fly blind. I provide the ultimate Exodus Survival Blueprint: teaching investors the "Interstate Capital Flight" strategy to high-yield states like Perth, and giving renters the exact legal strategy to lock in a lease before the market detonates.

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