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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41290 Gender:	hey americans, where is your ..... Feb 17^th, 2026 at 10:53am ................ DOGE refund cheques, 10% APR on credit cards, gas under $2, cheaper groceries, tariff cheques and trump phone? What happened to Greenland and why aren't my drugs 1500% cheaper?
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Reply #1 - Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:11am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

................ DOGE refund cheques, 10% APR on credit cards, gas under $2, cheaper groceries, tariff cheques and trump phone?

What happened to Greenland and why aren't my drugs 1500% cheaper?

Trump is discovering he can't 'produce the goods' because.....it’s time for governments to take control of resource mobilization via intelligent central planning (made practicable in the age of AI), to achieve sustainable resource allocation, given ‘invisible hand’ markets are increasingly unable to function properly in an era of ecological distress, increasing population, and mal-distribution of resources manifesting in entrenched poverty and soaring inequality, as well as the looming ecological collapse.

Even Musk hasn’t realised it yet, despite claiming that “AI will render currencies irrelevant” and “work will be optional”…..

Can the prospect of (increasingly evident) political chaos, following economic dysfunction and looming ecological disaster, change men’s thinking?

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14787 Armidale Gender:	Re: hey americans, where is your ..... Reply #2 - Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:20am Sadly, the tariff cheques had to be spent on $Trump crypto. It began at $154.29 and is now $4.85 due to Biden's disastrous incompetence. It will be great again.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150345 Gender:	Re: hey americans, where is your ..... Reply #3 - Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:22am Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 10:53am: ................ DOGE refund cheques, 10% APR on credit cards, gas under $2, cheaper groceries, tariff cheques and trump phone? What happened to Greenland and why aren't my drugs 1500% cheaper? “I don’t mean 50%. I mean 14 to 1,500%.”
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150345 Gender:	Re: hey americans, where is your ..... Reply #4 - Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:25am chimera wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:20am: Sadly, the tariff cheques had to be spent on $Trump crypto. It began at $154.29 and is now $4.85 due to Biden's disastrous incompetence. It will be great again. A lot of the money has been spent on Kristi Noem's hair extensions, Botox, and cosplay costumes.
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Reply #5 - Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:36am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:25am:

chimera wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:20am:

Sadly, the tariff cheques had to be spent on $Trump crypto. It began at $154.29 and is now $4.85 due to Biden's disastrous incompetence. It will be great again.

A lot of the money has been spent on Kristi Noem's hair extensions, Botox, and cosplay costumes.

Yes, but do you think the Dems can fix the current political hyperpartisanship which is tearing the US apart?

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Reply #6 - Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:38am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:25am:

A lot of the money has been spent on Kristi Noem's hair extensions, Botox, and cosplay costumes.

NEW COUNTRY BANGER - The Right People

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Kristi Noem said the quiet part out loud. She only wants the right people voting. Safe to say Kristi Noem is the wrong people.

Mr. Newberger's AI Funnies

LYRICS:
I’m responsible for ICE
a mess of that I've made.
I got Proud Boys armed and badged,
And Some Racists over paid.

I’m responsible for the border,
The DHS oversees
I can put on any uniform,
I love my accessories.

I’m responsible for the elections,
Yeah I’m out over my skis,
You may say that their not mine to touch
Same with Corey Lewandowski.

But I want the right people voting,
and the right people to lead,
That means if I gotta block your vote,
I’ll do whatever I need.
Cause I want the right people voting,
the ones who agree with me
I’m saying the quiet part out loud
Bye bye Democracy.

Remember Minneapolis?
We came we saw we left,
Was practice for Election Day,
When I try the biggest theft

Remember January 6?
Those pardoned work for me,
They stood back and stood by,
Now they're in our army

But I want the right people voting,
and the right people to lead,
That means if I gotta block your vote,
I’ll do whatever I need.
Cause I want the right people voting,
the ones who agree with me
I’m saying the quiet part out loud
Bye bye Democracy.

Remember the folks we killed,
On the streets for all to see
You ain’t seen nothing yet,
The midterms belong to me!

And there's 1,500% truth right there - no doubt about it.

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Reply #7 - Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:48am

Carl D wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:25am:

A lot of the money has been spent on Kristi Noem's hair extensions, Botox, and cosplay costumes.

NEW COUNTRY BANGER - The Right People

Quote:

Kristi Noem said the quiet part out loud. She only wants the right people voting. Safe to say Kristi Noem is the wrong people.

Mr. Newberger's AI Funnies

LYRICS:
I’m responsible for ICE
a mess of that I've made.
I got Proud Boys armed and badged,
And Some Racists over paid.

I’m responsible for the border,
The DHS oversees
I can put on any uniform,
I love my accessories.

I’m responsible for the elections,
Yeah I’m out over my skis,
You may say that their not mine to touch
Same with Corey Lewandowski.

But I want the right people voting,
and the right people to lead,
That means if I gotta block your vote,
I’ll do whatever I need.
Cause I want the right people voting,
the ones who agree with me
I’m saying the quiet part out loud
Bye bye Democracy.

Remember Minneapolis?
We came we saw we left,
Was practice for Election Day,
When I try the biggest theft

Remember January 6?
Those pardoned work for me,
They stood back and stood by,
Now their in our army

But I want the right people voting,
and the right people to lead,
That means if I gotta block your vote,
I’ll do whatever I need.
Cause I want the right people voting,
the ones who agree with me
I’m saying the quiet part out loud
Bye bye Democracy.

Remember the folks we killed,
On the streets for all to see
You ain’t seen nothing yet,
The midterms belong to me!

And there's 1,500% truth right there - no doubt about it.

Same question to you: do you think the Dems can fix the cost of living crisis affecting the 50% of Americans who are living paycheck to paycheck (if they even have a job,...)?

Politicians need to start thinking about the post Trump era, because global political instability caused by economic dysfunction isn't going away.

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Reply #8 - Feb 17^th, 2026 at 9:39pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

................ DOGE refund cheques, 10% APR on credit cards, gas under $2, cheaper groceries, tariff cheques and trump phone?

What happened to Greenland and why aren't my drugs 1500% cheaper?

I think he doesn't have an exclusive right to give everyone a DOGE check. I pay about $2.19 a gallon for gasoline, if we bought it by the liter it would cost a little over .50 cents. Think about that the next time you go to the petrol station. I pay 0.0% APR on credit cards and how much is 1500% cheaper for drugs work out at $2.36 for a prescription? By the way, the Stock Market has been very, very good to me in the last 12 months. What a turn around from the four years before that.

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Reply #9 - Feb 17^th, 2026 at 10:01pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:48am:

Carl D wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 11:25am:

A lot of the money has been spent on Kristi Noem's hair extensions, Botox, and cosplay costumes.

NEW COUNTRY BANGER - The Right People

Quote:

Kristi Noem said the quiet part out loud. She only wants the right people voting. Safe to say Kristi Noem is the wrong people.

Mr. Newberger's AI Funnies

LYRICS:
I’m responsible for ICE
a mess of that I've made.
I got Proud Boys armed and badged,
And Some Racists over paid.

I’m responsible for the border,
The DHS oversees
I can put on any uniform,
I love my accessories.

I’m responsible for the elections,
Yeah I’m out over my skis,
You may say that their not mine to touch
Same with Corey Lewandowski.

But I want the right people voting,
and the right people to lead,
That means if I gotta block your vote,
I’ll do whatever I need.
Cause I want the right people voting,
the ones who agree with me
I’m saying the quiet part out loud
Bye bye Democracy.

Remember Minneapolis?
We came we saw we left,
Was practice for Election Day,
When I try the biggest theft

Remember January 6?
Those pardoned work for me,
They stood back and stood by,
Now their in our army

But I want the right people voting,
and the right people to lead,
That means if I gotta block your vote,
I’ll do whatever I need.
Cause I want the right people voting,
the ones who agree with me
I’m saying the quiet part out loud
Bye bye Democracy.

Remember the folks we killed,
On the streets for all to see
You ain’t seen nothing yet,
The midterms belong to me!

And there's 1,500% truth right there - no doubt about it.

Same question to you: do you think the Dems can fix the cost of living crisis affecting the 50% of Americans who are living paycheck to paycheck (if they even have a job,...)?

Politicians need to start thinking about the post Trump era, because global political instability caused by economic dysfunction isn't going away.

Apparently most people don't seem to understand what living "paycheck to paycheck" means. It doesn't mean those people are living in desperation and fear about how they are going to pay their way in the world. I know many people who live "paycheck to paycheck" and most live a lavish lifestyle above their ability to pay it all back. As long as the income continues they appear to be wealthy.

The post Trump era as you call it may well be the end of freedom. The World is getting better but the other side is sure to turn that around as soon as they take power again. What the other side wants is total control over your lives and I expect that you will feel safer knowing wise people are in control of your lives.

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The only difference between a Communist and a Democrat is the spelling.

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14637 Colorado Gender:	Re: hey americans, where is your ..... Reply #10 - Yesterday at 2:00am I'm still waiting on my "Tariff Rebate Check. You know, the one where I pay double even triple only to get a crumb in return if I get a crumb at all. MAGA!
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Reply #11 - Yesterday at 10:11am

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 9:39pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

................ DOGE refund cheques, 10% APR on credit cards, gas under $2, cheaper groceries, tariff cheques and trump phone?

What happened to Greenland and why aren't my drugs 1500% cheaper?

I think he doesn't have an exclusive right to give everyone a DOGE check. I pay about $2.19 a gallon for gasoline, if we bought it by the liter it would cost a little over .50 cents. Think about that the next time you go to the petrol station. I pay 0.0% APR on credit cards and how much is 1500% cheaper for drugs work out at $2.36 for a prescription? By the way, the Stock Market has been very, very good to me in the last 12 months. What a turn around from the four years before that.

The Stock Market was even better for you in 2024, dear.

The question is, why aren't your drugs 1500% cheaper?

They'd be paying you to take them. The way things are in your country now, dear, I can see why.

We should chip in to have you medicated. If we could fix 37% of US voters, we'd solve the Western world's biggest problem just like that.

We will make America great again, no?

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Reply #12 - Yesterday at 10:23am

Doge needs to be seen in the context of the public private alliance that is the future model for power.

Trump and Musk are in such alliance.
JD Vance and Peter thiel are in such an alliance.

Musk needs access to government software if he and his team ate to take over the functioning of American society.
The data can feed his AI and he needs that as well for the new crypto currency he will run through X.

Thiel similarly needs the access to massive data through Google and meta to feed his AI and usher in the PayPal bit coin.

As Musk, Trump, JD and Theil correctly recognise, China is bounding ahead in developing AI and digital currency and the USA needs to catch up.

In truth, china's autocracy runs much better then the failed American system and its time that these 4 intelligent patriotic men saved the USA from itself

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Reply #13 - Yesterday at 10:35am

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 17^th, 2026 at 10:01pm:

Apparently most people don't seem to understand what living "paycheck to paycheck" means. It doesn't mean those people are living in desperation and fear about how they are going to pay their way in the world. I know many people who live "paycheck to paycheck" and most live a lavish lifestyle above their ability to pay it all back. As long as the income continues they appear to be wealthy.

You obviously dont know many low-income people living paycheck to pay check.

Cost of living pressures are real for these people; and an unexpected one-off expense can increase the pressure immensely. That's why Trump's poll numbers are declining.

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The post Trump era as you call it may well be the end of freedom.

C-O-L pressures aren't "freedom"; and Trump has failed to fix it.

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The World is getting better but the other side is sure to turn that around as soon as they take power again.

No, the world is getting worse which is why democracies around the are becoming unstable as the increasing cost of living pressures globally affect the poorer half of the population.

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What the other side wants is total control over your lives and I expect that you will feel safer knowing wise people are in control of your lives.

No, both mainstream centre (ie L-R) parties are useless, hence the rise of the "populist Right" - and remarkably, the socialist Left eg Mamdani in NY.

But we will see if Trump has resoived C-O-L pressures for enough people, in the midterms....

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Reply #14 - Yesterday at 10:42am

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 10:23am:

Doge needs to be seen in the context of the public private alliance that is the future model for power.

Trump and Musk are in such alliance.
JD Vance and Peter thiel are in such an alliance.

Musk needs access to government software if he and his team ate to take over the functioning of American society.
The data can feed his AI and he needs that as well for the new crypto currency he will run through X.

Thiel similarly needs the access to massive data through Google and meta to feed his AI and usher in the PayPal bit coin.

As Musk, Trump, JD and Theil correctly recognise, China is bounding ahead in developing AI and digital currency and the USA needs to catch up.

In truth, china's autocracy runs much better then the failed American system and its time that these 4 intelligent patriotic men saved the USA from itself

Good point.

But Musk himself doesn't recognize it, even though he said "AI will make currencies irrelevant" and "work will be optional.".

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