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Reply #15 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 3:57pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2026 at 3:49pm:
If Coles gets a $100 million fine will they put their prices up to pay for it?


No.

The Executive Leadership Team will take a cut in pay and forgo any bonuses for the next two or three years.

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Reply #16 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 4:02pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2026 at 3:57pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2026 at 3:49pm:
If Coles gets a $100 million fine will they put their prices up to pay for it?


No.

The Executive Leadership Team will take a cut in pay and forgo any bonuses for the next two or three years.

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Wow - ripping people off -
is that what they taught her at Harvard?    Undecided


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Reply #17 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 4:06pm
 
They all do it bit tough to just go at Coles.
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Reply #18 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 4:39pm
 
I’ve never actually seen in the federal or state budgets where these fines are received?

I asked a local member quite a time ago if there is any record of the fines being paid and received by the state or federal government and was provided no response.

How do we know if these fines are ever paid or enforced if there is no evidence available to public records?

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Reply #19 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 4:43pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Feb 18th, 2026 at 4:39pm:
I’ve never actually seen in the federal or state budgets where these fines are received?

I asked a local member quite a time ago if there is any record of the fines being paid and received by the state or federal government and was provided no response.

How do we know if these fines are ever paid or enforced if there is no evidence available to public records?



Just check the ACCC Annual Reports.

e.g. https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/accc-aer-annual-report-2024-25_0.pdf

More here: https://www.accc.gov.au/about-us/publications/accc-and-aer-annual-reports
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Reply #20 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 4:58pm
 
Just think. That extra price hike pays to run the Supermarket to provide you with food and go towards building more Supermarkets to more people in a more accessible way.

Stop ya bloody whinging.

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Reply #21 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 7:21pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 18th, 2026 at 4:58pm:
Just think. That extra price hike pays to run the Supermarket to provide you with food and go towards building more Supermarkets to more people in a more accessible way.

Stop ya bloody whinging.




Coles definitely ripped people off - they still do -
but they all do it -
that's what retail business is all about.
You don't make money by giving everyone a bargain at below cost price.   Roll Eyes

the idea is to make suckers think they are getting a bargain -

down down prices are down.
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Reply #22 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 9:31pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2026 at 4:43pm:
[quote author=Daves2017 link=1771227506/18#18 date=1771396751]I’ve never actually seen in the federal or state budgets where these fines are received?

I asked a local member quite a time ago if there is any record of the fines being paid and received by the state or federal government and was provided no response.

How do we know if these fines are ever paid or enforced if there is no evidence available to public records?



Just check them. Thank you for the links.

I see the “ reported figures “ but absolutely zero evidence that the actual money was received and by whom and where did that money actually go ( if you believe that they ever received it).

I simply have no trust whatsoever in our government at any level and firmly believe every Australian politician is simply on the take.

Example A -  Anika Wells.

Example B - “Taking a conservative approach, Acil Allen estimated that a WA NRL club would deliver $28 million in economic benefits annually, once competing. Based on these two sets of modelling, the financial support provided to the club will deliver a positive return to WA taxpayers”

“ AI

Will that 28 million be audited and proven or is it more of “ just a vibe “ believe me I work for the government kinda thing ?

If these fines are actually paid why aren’t the transactions publicly available?

The days of trusting the government are long over.

Transparency and prove it happened  and if you can’t what are you guilty of?

The government are proven liars and those not corrupt are simply incompetent.






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Reply #23 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 9:45pm
 
Sorry , previous  post off topic, me bad.
On topic.
If you can believe what Cole’s is promoting via the main stream media they struggle to make a profit of 3%.

If that is correct anyone with shares and a brain would be selling quickly and moving to a more profitable business.

A profit of 3% is razor thin and a big struggle to keep the doors open.

If you believe them?

Retail has been doing this scam since trading first started.

It’s not just Cole’s.

Special mention to super cheap auto.
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Reply #24 - Feb 19th, 2026 at 12:15am
 
Shapes blunder: Coles admits to second ‘Down Down’ discount failure   Sad

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February 18, 2026

A former Coles executive has admitted the supermarket broke its own guidelines by promoting discounts on Arnott’s Shapes as part of its “Down Down” program too soon after raising its price, marking the second similar concession in as many days.   Sad

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission is pursuing Coles over alleged “illusory discounts” in which the supermarket raised prices before putting products on specials that were often higher than the original price.


Former Coles manager Rebecca Thompson leaves the Federal Court in Melbourne on Wednesday.

On the third day of ACCC’s case, Coles’ former head of commercial strategy, Rebecca Thompson, was asked about her role in negotiating the price of a multipack of Arnott’s Shapes biscuits from early March to May 2022.

The price of the box of biscuits, sold for $5 for a lengthy period under the “Down Down” program, rose to $5.50 under the same program, albeit with a four-week “price establishment” period in between, the court heard.

Coles sold the biscuits at a “white ticket” price of $6.50 for one week before it ran a 30 per cent special the following week. It then reverted to the white ticket price of $6.50 for two weeks before returning to the “Down Down” program at a new price of $5.50.

Thompson said the agreement struck between Coles and Arnott’s had forgotten to factor in a biannual 30 per cent discount campaign on certain Arnott’s brands.


Arnott’s Shapes were the focus of court proceedings on Wednesday.

Thompson had been going off advice from an Arnott’s representative, who had suggested including the biscuits in the “Down Down” program on an earlier date, according to email exchanges heard by the court.

“We’d cause confusion with customers by having a multitude of callouts that say these are not included in the promotion,” said Thompson. “This was an anomaly … it was an error, and we tried to rectify it with as [little] confusion as possible.”


Coles concedes mistake in ‘discounting’ item to make it more expensive after a week
The ACCC’s lead barrister, Garry Rich, SC, put to Thompson that the pricing “was not in accordance with the guardrails”.

“Yes, it was an error,” Thompson responded.

“You accept that the product had only been sold at that price for three out of the four weeks immediately prior to the ‘Down Down’ promotion commencing?” asked Rich.

“Yes,” said Thompson.

“You say that it’s his [the Arnott’s representative] fault,” said Rich. “No, I’m saying it’s human error,” Thompson responded.

After running the 30 per cent special, the price of the biscuits should have been held at the white ticket price for four weeks before returning to the “Down Down” program, she later explained.

On Tuesday, Coles lead barrister John Sheahan, KC, said it was a “mistake” and an outlier that Coles had raised the price of 1.2kg tins of chicken and vegetable Nature’s Gift Wet Dog Food from $4 to a new price of $6 for just seven days before introducing the “Down Down” price of $4.50.

This followed evidence from Monday, when the court heard of internal emails from a senior Coles manager who said it was not in the spirit of the marketing campaign to advertise a product as “Down Down” when it was cheaper only four weeks earlier.

Sheahan told the court earlier in the week that Coles’ price rises were determined by market forces, including inflation and pressure from suppliers, and its discounts were genuine.


Coles business category manager Via Lavdas also appeared on the stand on Wednesday, when she was asked about the same product from Arnott’s.

Lavdas had struck an agreement with Arnott’s that the supermarket would permit a price rise by increasing the biscuits’ “white ticket” price to $6.50 for four weeks, before returning to $5.50 under the “Down Down” program for 52 weeks, the court heard.

“You only accepted an increased cost on the basis that the product would be sold on a ‘Down Down’ promotion for $5.50 after those four weeks for that product,” said Rich. “Correct. That was the agreement,” said Lavdas.

“You wanted to get to a ‘Down Down’ price within the minimum period prescribed by the … guardrails,” said Rich. Lavdas agreed.

The ACCC launched legal action against both Coles and Woolworths in late 2024, alleging that both supermarkets misled consumers through pricing promotions that were actually higher, or the same as, the previous regular price. The supermarkets deny the claims.

The hearing continues on Thursday.
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Reply #25 - Feb 19th, 2026 at 7:00am
 


down down prices are down
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Reply #27 - Feb 19th, 2026 at 11:13am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2026 at 11:34am:
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Coles is blaming supplier costs for high retail prices.


It is blaming all the costs. That's what you pay for. The cost of supplying the goods to you.

If coles was making 50c in the dollar, they would have a dozen new competitors overnight.


This isn't about supply or demand, it's about false advertising. The marketing model of Coles and Woolworths is based on setting consumer price expectations by falsely advertising discounts. Because they have a monopoly on groceries, the practice creates inflation.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
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Melanias purse wrote on Feb 19th, 2026 at 11:13am:
freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2026 at 11:34am:
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Coles is blaming supplier costs for high retail prices.


It is blaming all the costs. That's what you pay for. The cost of supplying the goods to you.

If coles was making 50c in the dollar, they would have a dozen new competitors overnight.


This isn't about supply or demand, it's about false advertising. The marketing model of Coles and Woolworths is based on setting consumer price expectations by falsely advertising discounts. Because they have a monopoly on groceries, the practice creates inflation.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?


They do not have a monopoly. It does not even make sense to insist that two companies have a monopoly, that would be a duopoly. And other than the two exceptions noted, there are rules about how long you have to have the price up before you can say you have reduced it.

I am not really sure why any of this matters. If I want to compare the prices between Aldi, Coles, Woolies, IGA and the local independent, I compare the prices, not the history of advertised 'reductions'. Anyone who is swayed by a vague chant about 'prices are down' rather than the actual price deserves to be ripped off.
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Reply #29 - Yesterday at 9:53pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 9:00am:
Melanias purse wrote on Feb 19th, 2026 at 11:13am:
freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2026 at 11:34am:
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Coles is blaming supplier costs for high retail prices.


It is blaming all the costs. That's what you pay for. The cost of supplying the goods to you.

If coles was making 50c in the dollar, they would have a dozen new competitors overnight.


This isn't about supply or demand, it's about false advertising. The marketing model of Coles and Woolworths is based on setting consumer price expectations by falsely advertising discounts. Because they have a monopoly on groceries, the practice creates inflation.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?


They do not have a monopoly. It does not even make sense to insist that two companies have a monopoly, that would be a duopoly. And other than the two exceptions noted, there are rules about how long you have to have the price up before you can say you have reduced it.

I am not really sure why any of this matters. If I want to compare the prices between Aldi, Coles, Woolies, IGA and the local independent, I compare the prices, not the history of advertised 'reductions'. Anyone who is swayed by a vague chant about 'prices are down' rather than the actual price deserves to be ripped off.


But the prices aren't down, they're up, and designed to be so. Here in liberal democracies, we have a thing called civil law. If we're ripped off, we get to take you to court.

If you don't like this, I suggest you move to a country without a rule of law.

Perhaps you'd prefer a nice authoritarian country. Let's say Russia, or Chi-na, or North Korea.

Or any country where madams can be raped with a cactus, without censure.

Freeeeedom, innit.
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