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Reply #15 - Yesterday at 12:30pm
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 11:54am:
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 10:23am:
Even today, American 17th-century goddism inhibits American would-be politicians and incumbents from admitting they're atheists... To do so would be political suicide... Americans equate atheism with Satanism - being incapable of comprehending a world where there's no supernatural power peering over their shoulder when they take a piss.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You do have a sneering anti-American bee in your bonnet.
Sense of proportion - zero.


The most religious countries in the world, primarily located in the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia, are defined by high rates of daily prayer, religious attendance, and the importance of faith in daily life, with Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and India often ranking at the top. These nations often have constitutions or societal norms deeply rooted in religious law.
Based on various studies, here are the top 10 most religious countries, often characterized by over 90% of their populations reporting high levels of religious devotion:

Indonesia (Highest reported religiosity, often >95%)
Saudi Arabia (Center of Islam, high religious adherence)
Iran (Deeply religious society, strong influence of Islam)
Somalia (Extremely high levels of faith, often >95%)
Niger (Strongly religious, often >95%)
Jordan (High percentage of religious adherence, approx. 95%)
Bangladesh (High religious devotion)
Egypt (Strong cultural and personal reliance on faith)
Nigeria (Extremely high religious importance)
India (High importance of religion and diverse practices)


All Muslims and a Hindu.


A bit of gay whataboutism there, old girl...

American goddists don't like homosexuality either, so...

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Reply #16 - Yesterday at 12:34pm
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:11am:
Historically, European anti-Americanism often emphasised the moral inferiority of American people and their way of life. Jesper Gulddal’s review of anti-Americanism in 19th-century European literature showed that authors from France, Britain and Germany ‘argued emphatically that America’s lack of tradition and culture, as well as its materialism, vulgarity, religious bigotry and political immaturity constituted not only the essence of this country’s very being but that they would also somehow infest Europe’.

Contempt for the American way of life has always been particularly widespread among European intellectual and the cultural elites. Writing at the turn of the 20th century, British economist Sydney Brooks attributed the hostility to America to ‘envy of her prosperity and success’. Europeans, he wrote, ‘intensely resent the bearing of Americans… They hate the American form of swagger.’ They saw a country ‘crudely and completely immersed in materialism’.

One of the most famous slurs against the US came in the early 20th century, when French prime minister Georges Clemenceau sneered that, ‘America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilisation’.

During the Cold War years, Europe’s cultural elite continued to view America with a mixture of resentment and contempt. ‘America the violent, America the crass, America the inept have all become everyday images in Europe’, concluded the US ambassador in London in early 1987. This attitude has got much worse since. The well-known British author Margaret Drabble wrote in May 2003, two months after the invasion of Iraq:

‘It has possessed me like a disease. It rises in my throat like acid reflux… I can’t keep it down any longer. I detest Disneyfication. I detest Coca-Cola. I detest burgers. I detest sentimental and violent Hollywood movies that tell lies about history.’

Drabble’s visceral disgust towards America was shared throughout Europe. German theatre director Peter Zadek gave full vent to his prejudices against the American people during the Iraq War:

‘The Bush administration was more or less democratically elected, and it had the support of the majority of Americans in its Iraq War. One can therefore be against the Americans, just as most of the world was against the Germans in the Second World War. In this sense, I am an anti-American.’

ibid.


It's nothing new. Today they say it's Trump, yestrday it was Bush, before that Reagan, Before that it was the liberating yankee soldiers, 'oversexed, overpaid, overe here'. In goes back centuries.

Europe neutered itself completely in the 20th century. They have nobody but themselves to blame.



It amazes me how short peoples memories are....

The Yanks helped bail Europe out in 2 World wars.

The French haven't got a decent victory in any of their military history.

Until it was removed years ago if you typed "French Military victories" into Google it would pop up a box

"did you mean French Military defeats?" Grin
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Reply #17 - Yesterday at 12:42pm
 
Gnads wrote Yesterday at 12:34pm:
It amazes me how short peoples memories are....

The Yanks helped bail Europe out in 2 World wars.


That tells me how old you are.

80+ years isn't a short time for living memory or sentiment. Do you think Europeans were still crawling on all fours to Britain and Prussia in 1900 for defeating Napoleon in 1815?

What's your memory or sentiment for the Boer War or the Eureka Rebellion?
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Reply #18 - Yesterday at 1:13pm
 
Big Brother Media of Oceania is very ANTI N.America, S. America & Sahul Australia.

Big Brother Media working for Asia, Europe & Africa.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #19 - Yesterday at 1:15pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 12:42pm:
Gnads wrote Yesterday at 12:34pm:
It amazes me how short peoples memories are....

The Yanks helped bail Europe out in 2 World wars.


That tells me how old you are.

80+ years isn't a short time for living memory or sentiment. Do you think Europeans were still crawling on all fours to Britain and Prussia in 1900 for defeating Napoleon in 1815?

What's your memory or sentiment for the Boer War or the Eureka Rebellion?

Now this is getting interesting on both parts

*Popcorn 🍿
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #20 - Yesterday at 1:20pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 12:42pm:
Gnads wrote Yesterday at 12:34pm:
It amazes me how short peoples memories are....

The Yanks helped bail Europe out in 2 World wars.


That tells me how old you are.

80+ years isn't a short time for living memory or sentiment. Do you think Europeans were still crawling on all fours to Britain and Prussia in 1900 for defeating Napoleon in 1815?

What's your memory or sentiment for the Boer War or the Eureka Rebellion?



What about Australia in WW2?

We would have been invaded and murdered by the Japs
if it wasn't for the Yanks.
We didn't even have enough rifles for the troops we called up for duty.
They were training with broomsticks.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #21 - Yesterday at 1:29pm
 
Media Lefty Aussies beat their chests against Great Britain, but grovel and cry dependingly to Media America.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #22 - Yesterday at 1:34pm
 
Gnads wrote Yesterday at 12:34pm:
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It amazes me how short peoples memories are....

The Yanks helped bail Europe out in 2 World wars.

The French haven't got a decent victory in any of their military history.

Until it was removed years ago if you typed "French Military victories" into Google it would pop up a box

"did you mean French Military defeats?" Grin



Indeed.

Why France was included among the victors in the post-war European settlement is a mystery. It was quickly defeated and occupied by Germany and was liberated by the US and Britain.
It's only use has been as an albatross around Germany's neck since 1945.





I am reading Tony Judt's Postwar. He explains in great detail what Truman aabove merely hints at.
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Reply #23 - Yesterday at 1:40pm
 
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 1:20pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 12:42pm:
Gnads wrote Yesterday at 12:34pm:
It amazes me how short peoples memories are....

The Yanks helped bail Europe out in 2 World wars.


That tells me how old you are.

80+ years isn't a short time for living memory or sentiment. Do you think Europeans were still crawling on all fours to Britain and Prussia in 1900 for defeating Napoleon in 1815?

What's your memory or sentiment for the Boer War or the Eureka Rebellion?



What about Australia in WW2?

We would have been invaded and murdered by the Japs
if it wasn't for the Yanks.
We didn't even have enough rifles for the troops we called up for duty.
They were training with broomsticks.   Roll Eyes

Feel free to offer up your firstborn, their firstborn and their firstborn.

The WW2 generation of leaders crawled on all fours for the US into Vietnam to rain fire and shells on an agrarian people who wouldn't have had the maps to find an Australia they didn't know existed, nevermind make war on us... condemning the half-generation of early boomers to be killed, maimed for life and/or psychologically crippled.. for what? To make the world safer by exterminating agrarian villagers?
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Reply #24 - Yesterday at 1:43pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 1:40pm:
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 1:20pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 12:42pm:
Gnads wrote Yesterday at 12:34pm:
It amazes me how short peoples memories are....

The Yanks helped bail Europe out in 2 World wars.


That tells me how old you are.

80+ years isn't a short time for living memory or sentiment. Do you think Europeans were still crawling on all fours to Britain and Prussia in 1900 for defeating Napoleon in 1815?

What's your memory or sentiment for the Boer War or the Eureka Rebellion?



What about Australia in WW2?

We would have been invaded and murdered by the Japs
if it wasn't for the Yanks.
We didn't even have enough rifles for the troops we called up for duty.
They were training with broomsticks.   Roll Eyes

Feel free to offer up your firstborn, their firstborn and their firstborn.

The WW2 generation of leaders crawled on all fours for the US into Vietnam to rain fire and shells on an agrarian people who wouldn't have had the maps to find an Australia they didn't know existed, nevermind make war on us... condemning the half-generation of early boomers to be killed, maimed for life and/or psychologically crippled.. for what? To make the world safer by exterminating agrarian villagers?



The Yanks don't ask us to get involved in their wars - they tell us -

if we don't they won't come to our aid when the Chinese invade us.

We also have to buy nuke subs at 5 times the actual price cause they told us to.
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Reply #25 - Yesterday at 1:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 1:43pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 1:40pm:
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 1:20pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 12:42pm:
Gnads wrote Yesterday at 12:34pm:
It amazes me how short peoples memories are....

The Yanks helped bail Europe out in 2 World wars.


That tells me how old you are.

80+ years isn't a short time for living memory or sentiment. Do you think Europeans were still crawling on all fours to Britain and Prussia in 1900 for defeating Napoleon in 1815?

What's your memory or sentiment for the Boer War or the Eureka Rebellion?



What about Australia in WW2?

We would have been invaded and murdered by the Japs
if it wasn't for the Yanks.
We didn't even have enough rifles for the troops we called up for duty.
They were training with broomsticks.   Roll Eyes

Feel free to offer up your firstborn, their firstborn and their firstborn.

The WW2 generation of leaders crawled on all fours for the US into Vietnam to rain fire and shells on an agrarian people who wouldn't have had the maps to find an Australia they didn't know existed, nevermind make war on us... condemning the half-generation of early boomers to be killed, maimed for life and/or psychologically crippled.. for what? To make the world safer by exterminating agrarian villagers?



The Yanks don't ask us to get involved in their wars - they tell us -

if we don't they won't come to our aid when the Chinese invade us.

We also have to buy nuke subs at 5 times the actual price cause they told us to.

Next time you're driving by a map of the world, take 5 minutes to locate China and Australia on it...

Check how there's this whole place called Southeast Asia, 1o+ countries, blue water of an ocean and treacherous seas to plough through before even one Chinese soldier puts a foot on Australian soil... and nevermind the supply lines that need to be secured...

Then check how many US military assets are permanently stationed in Australia...
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Reply #26 - Yesterday at 1:56pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 1:50pm:
Next time you're driving by a map of the world, take 5 minutes to locate China and Australia on it...

Check how there's this whole place called Southeast Asia, 1o+ countries, blue water of an ocean and treacherous seas to plough through before even one Chinese soldier puts a foot on Australian soil... and nevermind the supply lines that need to be secured...

Then check how many US military assets are permanently stationed in Australia...



The air distance from Hong Kong (HKG) to Darwin (DRW) is
approximately 4,260 to 4,285 kilometers . Direct flights typically take around 5 to 6 hours.

Ships travel easily at 30km/hr.


4285/30 = 143 hours.

143/24 =   6 days travel time -   not very far away.   Shocked
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Reply #27 - Yesterday at 2:06pm
 
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 1:56pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 1:50pm:
Next time you're driving by a map of the world, take 5 minutes to locate China and Australia on it...

Check how there's this whole place called Southeast Asia, 1o+ countries, blue water of an ocean and treacherous seas to plough through before even one Chinese soldier puts a foot on Australian soil... and nevermind the supply lines that need to be secured...

Then check how many US military assets are permanently stationed in Australia...



The air distance from Hong Kong (HKG) to Darwin (DRW) is
approximately 4,260 to 4,285 kilometers . Direct flights typically take around 5 to 6 hours.

Ships travel easily at 30km/hr.


4285/30 = 143 hours.

143/24 =   6 days travel time -   not very far away.   Shocked

How many soldiers would they need? More than a couple of plane loads? How about military materiel and other supplies?

Will they be landing in Sydney?

Will they avoid Pine Gap's detection system or will they be arriving, fully kitted on commerical flights?

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Reply #28 - Yesterday at 2:24pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 2:06pm:
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 1:56pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 1:50pm:
Next time you're driving by a map of the world, take 5 minutes to locate China and Australia on it...

Check how there's this whole place called Southeast Asia, 1o+ countries, blue water of an ocean and treacherous seas to plough through before even one Chinese soldier puts a foot on Australian soil... and nevermind the supply lines that need to be secured...

Then check how many US military assets are permanently stationed in Australia...



The air distance from Hong Kong (HKG) to Darwin (DRW) is
approximately 4,260 to 4,285 kilometers . Direct flights typically take around 5 to 6 hours.

Ships travel easily at 30km/hr.


4285/30 = 143 hours.

143/24 =   6 days travel time -   not very far away.   Shocked

How many soldiers would they need? More than a couple of plane loads? How about military materiel and other supplies?

Will they be landing in Sydney?

Will they avoid Pine Gap's detection system or will they be arriving, fully kitted on commerical flights?




No - arriving on ships using the largest navy in the world.
We wouldn't even know till it was too late.
We found out about Chinese live firing in the Tasman sea from commercial air pilots.    Embarrassed
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Reply #29 - Yesterday at 2:30pm
 
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 2:24pm:
No - arriving on ships using the largest navy in the world.
We wouldn't even know till it was too late.
We found out about Chinese live firing in the Tasman sea from commercial air pilots.    Embarrassed

The 'largest navy in the world' barely dares to send one ship into blue water, nevermind a fleet.

Chinese live firing in the Tasman Sea from commercial air pilots... well, that was a good story, anyway... As if a naval vessel could approach Australia unnoticed by the US and Australia...

It sure didn't hurt Labor's cause to be seen to be calling for calm and diplomacy and not overreacting, for the benefit of Chinese Australian and Southeast Asian Australian voters who greatly value and appreciate restraint and patience vs overreaction and hysteria.

The Liberals, on the other hand, went straight for Yellow Peril hysteria... where is Peter Dutton now? Has he been coaxed out of his bedroom yet?

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