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Re: Studying Epstein
Reply #60 - Yesterday at 6:47am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 5:12pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 3:59pm:
You are silent on the incalculably greater number of child rape victims of Muslim hangs in England.
The pattern is familiar....








They are off topic, that's why.  You are only pointing to them to minimise the pedophilia associated with people who are reflexively defending.

I honestly don't understand your compulsion to defend child abusers.

It's becoming, sadly, a familiar pattern with you...


Pedophilia and sex abuse by muslim rape gangs fits into the topic.


Only if the aim is to derail the thread and protect the people you're uncomfortable scrutinising.

This is Studying Epstein, not a grab-bag of crimes you'd rather talk about. Dragging in "Muslim rape gangs" here isn't about relevance or protecting children, it's a distraction from Trump's ties to Epstein and the abusers still hidden behind redactions.

If you actually cared about accountability, you'd back holding all abusers to account, including the ones on your side. Right now, all you're doing is running cover for them.

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Turning a blind eye to sex crimes including pedophilia is the topic.

I honesly dont understand your compjlsion to defend Muslim child abusers.

Is it a wacism thing??

(Yes.)






I've already been explicit that anyone involved should be held to account. That isn't in dispute.

What is in dispute is your attempt to hijack the discussion by forcing it onto a very specific case that is plainly off topic. This is a thread literally titled Studying Epstein. The tangent you're obsessively pushing belongs in a separate discussion, one that should absolutely happen, just not here.

I genuinely don't know what more you think you're owed at this point.

Unless, of course, your actual position is that in a thread about Epstein, we should stop talking about Trump and Epstein altogether and instead redirect the conversation to other abusers entirely. If that's your argument, state it clearly, because right now this reads less like principled moderation and more like reflexive defence of abusers on your own side, yet again.

And let's not memory-hole the key point you keep dodging. You still refuse to commit to holding Trump accountable, even if the unredacted Epstein files were to incriminate him. Faced with the hypothetical of clear evidence of Trump abusing children, you still can't bring yourself to agree that he should be held to account.

So no, don't dress this up as some good-faith concern for children or process. What you're doing is protecting abusers by running interference for one in particular. The topic-shifting isn't about safeguarding victims, it's about shielding perpetrators.
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Re: Studying Epstein
Reply #61 - Yesterday at 6:48am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 5:40pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 3:59pm:
You are silent on the incalculably greater number of child rape victims of Muslim hangs in England.
The pattern is familiar....








They are off topic, that's why.  You are only pointing to them to minimise the pedophilia associated with people who are reflexively defending.

I honestly don't understand your compulsion to defend child abusers.

It's becoming, sadly, a familiar pattern with you...




My understanding is that the child sex trafficking was exclusively to middle eastern princes and businessmen of the Islamic persuasion.

Why do you defend child rapists


What does that have to do with Studying Epstein?
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Re: Studying Epstein
Reply #62 - Yesterday at 8:38am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 6:48am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 5:40pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 3:59pm:
You are silent on the incalculably greater number of child rape victims of Muslim hangs in England.
The pattern is familiar....








They are off topic, that's why.  You are only pointing to them to minimise the pedophilia associated with people who are reflexively defending.

I honestly don't understand your compulsion to defend child abusers.

It's becoming, sadly, a familiar pattern with you...




My understanding is that the child sex trafficking was exclusively to middle eastern princes and businessmen of the Islamic persuasion.

Why do you defend child rapists


What does that have to do with Studying Epstein?



Because Epstein with the blessing of his intelligence agency handlers was supplying girls for the child sex trade.

He  wasn't getting young women in America to traffic them back to America. Roll Eyes

If you check out the world's richest man in times past  adnan kashogi,  he was running all the weapons for the Americans,  initially to the Iranians,  then to the Iraqis.
He had billions.
He had no interest in cash.
He did like girls.
The CIA were happy to oblige.
They needed " connectors"
Epstein types.


Epstein had 70 counts of child rape brought against him.
The FBI thought he would rot in jail.

The federal government Washington  stepped in .
Kenneth star and Alan acosta were the prosecutors.
And they secretly scrapped all the charges.
Why.
Because he worked for the intelligence agencirsvdoing very seedy things.


We are being served up useful idiots
Gates, Andrew, Musk, branson, pinker attia, lutnick.

Maxwell said there were 30 big players in the network.
I would bet not one has been named.


When I get time I am going to do a post on how the CIA ordered the murder of 2 children on a Forrest who accidentally came across the cia and pilot Barry seal unloading cocaine in Arkansas.
Bill Clinton  as governor and Ronald Regan as president were later informed of this cover up when the parents demanded an autopsy.

The intelligence agency are fine with child murder.
They are fine with Epstein victims being told to piss off
And they are fine with child trafficking to regimes that like young girls and boys.

And like it or not, it is mainly rich middle eastern states that value young girls and boys.


Try and make it all about Trump if you want.
Be a useful idiot for the intelligence agencies.
I'm sure they love your work and simplistic thinking  Roll Eyes

Do you really think the intelligence agencies didn't know about Epstein
He was flying presidents around.
That alone would trigger interest
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Reply #63 - Yesterday at 9:50am
 
This thread is titled Studying Epstein, not Free-associate every intelligence-agency conspiracy until Trump disappears.

You and Frank keep doing the same manoeuvre, when Epstein's documented ties to Trump come up, you flood the thread with Muslim gangs, Middle Eastern princes, the CIA, Barry Seal, Arkansas forests, Reagan, Clinton, and hypothetical murders of unnamed children. It's not analysis, it's a smoke screen.

Even if every claim you're making were true, and most of them are unsubstantiated assertions stacked on top of each other, it still wouldn't erase the facts that matter here, Epstein operated in the US, recruited American girls, abused them on American soil, and socialised extensively with powerful Americans, including Trump. That's why this is being discussed in an American politics forum.

Notice the pattern, any time Trump's proximity to Epstein is mentioned, suddenly responsibility must be displaced elsewhere, Muslims, foreigners, intelligence agencies, shadowy elites overseas. Everyone except the people actually named in flight logs, photos, depositions, and court records.

If you genuinely cared about victims, you wouldn't be trying so hard to redirect attention away from one of the most well-documented child abuse networks in modern US history simply because it implicates people you politically sympathise with.

Calling others "useful idiots" while repeating unverified intelligence-fan-fiction to shield a former US president from scrutiny is… ironic, at best.

If you want to start a thread on intelligence agencies, Middle Eastern elites, or global trafficking networks, do it. But stop pretending this frantic topic-shifting is anything other than an attempt to protect Trump and defend child abusers by drowning the conversation in noise.
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Re: Studying Epstein
Reply #64 - Yesterday at 9:57am
 
Nothing yet to link Trump with the young girls of Epstein or even his island or love express?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/the-facts-and-timeline-of-trump-and-epstei...
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Re: Studying Epstein
Reply #65 - Yesterday at 10:07am
 
aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 8:38am:
ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 6:48am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 5:40pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 3:59pm:
You are silent on the incalculably greater number of child rape victims of Muslim hangs in England.
The pattern is familiar....








They are off topic, that's why.  You are only pointing to them to minimise the pedophilia associated with people who are reflexively defending.

I honestly don't understand your compulsion to defend child abusers.

It's becoming, sadly, a familiar pattern with you...




My understanding is that the child sex trafficking was exclusively to middle eastern princes and businessmen of the Islamic persuasion.

Why do you defend child rapists


What does that have to do with Studying Epstein?



Because Epstein with the blessing of his intelligence agency handlers was supplying girls for the child sex trade.

He  wasn't getting young women in America to traffic them back to America. Roll Eyes

If you check out the world's richest man in times past  adnan kashogi,  he was running all the weapons for the Americans,  initially to the Iranians,  then to the Iraqis.
He had billions.
He had no interest in cash.
He did like girls.
The CIA were happy to oblige.
They needed " connectors"
Epstein types.


Epstein had 70 counts of child rape brought against him.
The FBI thought he would rot in jail.

The federal government Washington  stepped in .
Kenneth star and Alan acosta were the prosecutors.
And they secretly scrapped all the charges.

Why.
Because he worked for the intelligence agencirsvdoing very seedy things.


We are being served up useful idiots
Gates, Andrew, Musk, branson, pinker attia, lutnick.

Maxwell said there were 30 big players in the network.
I would bet not one has been named.


When I get time I am going to do a post on how the CIA ordered the murder of 2 children on a Forrest who accidentally came across the cia and pilot Barry seal unloading cocaine in Arkansas.
Bill Clinton  as governor and Ronald Regan as president were later informed of this cover up when the parents demanded an autopsy.

The intelligence agency are fine with child murder.
They are fine with Epstein victims being told to piss off
And they are fine with child trafficking to regimes that like young girls and boys.

And like it or not, it is mainly rich middle eastern states that value young girls and boys.


Try and make it all about Trump if you want.
Be a useful idiot for the intelligence agencies.
I'm sure they love your work and simplistic thinking  Roll Eyes

Do you really think the intelligence agencies didn't know about Epstein
He was flying presidents around.
That alone would trigger interest


Why?

Because they were connected to your DL, silly Billy.

As a reward, he made Alex Acosta his transport secretary.

He would have pardoned Jeff too, if some bright spark didn't suggest a little "accident" to make it go away permanently.

Your DL is fine with child murder.
He is fine with Epstein's victims being told to piss off.
And he is fine with child trafficking to friends that like young girls and boys.

How do we know?

Because he's trying to distract, evade and cover it all up as we speak.

Not once has he expressed any contrition for the victims. Not once has he sought any form of investigation for the offenders still at large. Not once has he revealed his own role in the network, which he was at the centre of. .

This wasn't the CIA, you silly old fool, this was your very own DL.

You know this, every schoolboy knows.

No matter how hard you try, you can never make this go away.

How does it feeeeel?
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Reply #66 - Yesterday at 10:14am
 
Oh dear.

When Starr and acosta let Jeff go it was years before DL went to Washington.
Try harder
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Reply #67 - Yesterday at 10:16am
 
Oh dear.
Skippy says I'm trying to derail a thread on studying Epstein.
A thread I started  Roll Eyes

As if studying Epstein trafficking of girls to the middle east isn't studying Epstein  Roll Eyes
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Reply #68 - Yesterday at 10:24am
 
Melanias purse wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 10:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 6:30pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 6:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 6:14pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Feb 10th, 2026 at 6:09pm:
I hereby and henceforth condemn all child sex crimes, dear boy. Can you do the same?

That's a question.

We may have a supplimentary.




I do the same -

would you like to be the hangman?


https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/c9/76/d6/c976d668e6d7b80f29182b39a7b52e51.g...


Old boy?

Bobby does the same.



Karnal,
we can't let em get away with it - hang em.


You've confessed.



So you don't wanna be the hangman?     Undecided
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Reply #69 - Yesterday at 10:25am
 
aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 10:16am:
Oh dear.
Skippy says I'm trying to derail a thread on studying Epstein.
A thread I started  Roll Eyes

As if studying Epstein trafficking of girls to the middle east isn't studying Epstein  Roll Eyes

Studying Epstein is not the same as investigating Epstein.

Studying implies a fascination with the personality, an obsession with envying his charisma or power, even.
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Reply #70 - Yesterday at 10:42am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 10:25am:
aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 10:16am:
Oh dear.
Skippy says I'm trying to derail a thread on studying Epstein.
A thread I started  Roll Eyes

As if studying Epstein trafficking of girls to the middle east isn't studying Epstein  Roll Eyes

Studying Epstein is not the same as investigating Epstein.

Studying implies a fascination with the personality, an obsession with envying his charisma or power, even.


Silly bollocks.

So all genocide and holocaust studies academics are really Hitlerites. ANyone studying WWII wants to have WWIII. Or doctors studying cancer realy want to give you cancer.

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Re: Studying Epstein
Reply #71 - Yesterday at 11:13am
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:42am:
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 10:25am:
aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 10:16am:
Oh dear.
Skippy says I'm trying to derail a thread on studying Epstein.
A thread I started  Roll Eyes

As if studying Epstein trafficking of girls to the middle east isn't studying Epstein  Roll Eyes

Studying Epstein is not the same as investigating Epstein.

Studying implies a fascination with the personality, an obsession with envying his charisma or power, even.


Silly bollocks.

So all genocide and holocaust studies academics are really Hitlerites. ANyone studying WWII wants to have WWIII. Or doctors studying cancer realy want to give you cancer.



There's a huge difference between studying history or disease to prevent harm, and treating the methods of a convicted pedophile as a "playbook" for influence. Epstein wasn't a subject to learn from in an abstract sense, he was a predator exploiting children and powerful people alike.

The post you're defending doesn't analyse, it admires, it instructs, it normalises manipulation and abuse. Comparing that to academics or doctors doing legitimate research is a false equivalence. One is pursuing knowledge to save lives or understand the past.

The other is openly dissecting how to exploit, abuse, and network like a child trafficker. Pretending that's the same thing isn't clever, it's morally blind.
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Reply #72 - Yesterday at 11:13am
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:42am:
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 10:25am:
aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 10:16am:
Oh dear.
Skippy says I'm trying to derail a thread on studying Epstein.
A thread I started  Roll Eyes

As if studying Epstein trafficking of girls to the middle east isn't studying Epstein  Roll Eyes

Studying Epstein is not the same as investigating Epstein.

Studying implies a fascination with the personality, an obsession with envying his charisma or power, even.


Silly bollocks.

So all genocide and holocaust studies academics are really Hitlerites. ANyone studying WWII wants to have WWIII. Or doctors studying cancer realy want to give you cancer.


So that's what you're pretending Aquascoot is referring to when calling for studying, eh! Academic research!

And, yes, many, if not most, of those 'studying' Hitler are obsessed with him... and not in an academic way.

Hence, the endless documentaries on him, making him more documented than the years he was alive...

When does 'studying' betray a dark obsession?

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Reply #73 - Yesterday at 11:25am
 
aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 10:14am:
Oh dear.

When Starr and acosta let Jeff go it was years before DL went to Washington.
Try harder


Oh? So why did your DL fire his buddy Alex Acosta?

You should know this. It was huge news at the time.

Please explain?
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Reply #74 - Yesterday at 11:28am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 11:13am:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:42am:
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 10:25am:
aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 10:16am:
Oh dear.
Skippy says I'm trying to derail a thread on studying Epstein.
A thread I started  Roll Eyes

As if studying Epstein trafficking of girls to the middle east isn't studying Epstein  Roll Eyes

Studying Epstein is not the same as investigating Epstein.

Studying implies a fascination with the personality, an obsession with envying his charisma or power, even.


Silly bollocks.

So all genocide and holocaust studies academics are really Hitlerites. ANyone studying WWII wants to have WWIII. Or doctors studying cancer realy want to give you cancer.


So that's what you're pretending Aquascoot is referring to when calling for studying, eh! Academic research!

And, yes, many, if not most, of those 'studying' Hitler are obsessed with him... and not in an academic way.

Hence, the endless documentaries on him, making him more documented than the years he was alive...

When does 'studying' betray a dark obsession?



Cheesy

"I'm a scholar, you are a Doctor of Divinity, he has a dark obsession."

Well, you studied Jabotinsky and Ben Gurion et also you are a, obsessive Zionist jew.  Or are your 'learned pronouncements' apply only to others, never to yourself?



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