Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2026 at 5:16pm:


You're still pretending context doesn't exist, which is either wilful ignorance or bad faith.

Darwin being depicted as an ape was aimed at his theory, not an attempt to strip him of his humanity or justify his subjugation. White Englishmen were never subjected to centuries of state-backed violence, enslavement, segregation, and pseudo-science built around the idea that they were biologically closer to animals. There was no social, legal, or economic system constructed on "white people are apes, therefore we may own, abuse, or erase them".

By contrast, comparing Black people to apes is not a neutral insult, it is a historically loaded act of dehumanisation. It sits inside a long, well-documented tradition of simianisation used explicitly to argue that Black people were less than human, fit for enslavement, experimentation, and exclusion from civil society. That's not tenuous, it's foundational to modern racism.

And if you genuinely think these two things are the same, that isn't insight or clever contrarianism. That's your racism trying to launder itself into something respectable by pretending history, power, and intent don't matter.

Your "apes weren't enslaved" line misses the point entirely. The comparison was never about the apes, it was about pushing Black people beneath the category of human to legitimise what was done to them. That history exists whether you acknowledge it or not.

So no, these are not equivalent, and insisting they are doesn't make you principled. It just exposes the contortions required to defend the indefensible.

So what's the tally of things you have been defending now:

Child Rape
Child Rapists
Racism
Violence against Trans people

What a disgusting list.

Frank wrote Yesterday at 8:42am:


You're still doing the same dishonest thing, flattening history, power, and intent until everything becomes interchangeable and therefore meaningless.

Yes, slavery has existed across cultures. That fact is neither controversial nor relevant to the point you're desperately trying to avoid. What distinguishes modern anti-Black racism is not that slavery happened, but that an entire pseudo-scientific, legal, and cultural framework was constructed to define Black people as sub-human.

Simianisation wasn't banter, it was justification. It was used to rationalise enslavement, colonial domination, segregation, medical experimentation, and exclusion from citizenship. That is why the ape comparison carries specific historical weight.

The fact that Africans participated in slavery does not rescue your argument. African societies did not develop global racial taxonomies, chattel slavery based on heredity, or centuries-long ideologies claiming Black people were biologically closer to animals. That architecture was built later, largely by Europeans, to morally launder what they were already doing.

Your pivot to "everyone insults everyone" is just cowardice posing as universalism. Jokes do not exist in a vacuum. Mockery aimed at groups who have not been systematically dehumanised by the state, law, and science does not function the same way as mockery aimed at groups who have. Pretending otherwise is not egalitarianism, it's wilful ignorance.

And quoting Twain and Shakespeare while casually listing slurs doesn't make you profound. It just highlights the contradiction, you want the aesthetics of humanism without the burden of understanding how power actually works.

This thread isn't about abstract anthropology or ancient history. It's about whether Trump posted a racist video in a contemporary context where that imagery has a very clear meaning.

Your refusal to acknowledge that context isn't intellectual rigour, it's the mental gymnastics required to defend something you know looks indefensible, it's Trump Derangement Syndrome.

scope wrote on Feb 10^th, 2026 at 6:59pm:



It's why some European men are large like bears -
huge 300 pound and even 400 pound men -
they are throwbacks to Neanderthals.

When I saw it I laughed loudly - it was very funny.   

Frank wrote Yesterday at 11:38am:


Nope, but I am letting what they've said about it guide my opinion,

Frank wrote Yesterday at 1:45pm:


And we're deflecting to trans hate now?

I accept your surrender, you cowardly little bitch.

Off ya pop loser, on ya bike, don't let the door hit you on the way out yadda yadda yadda...

You have the same humiliation kink that so many modern conservative men who've fallen into line behind Trump's crappy nappy are displaying.

Frank wrote Yesterday at 3:20pm:


I called you a bitch because you're acting like one.  A whiney little bitch.

If you don't like it, do better.

To think you, of all people, would take offence to that after all the things you say about others on here, it only reinforces that you are, in fac,t a whiney little bitch.