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Reply #15 - Feb 4th, 2026 at 12:07pm
 
Of course Labor will 'leave the inflation fight to the RBA' -the RBA is their mouth-piece - their echo chamber - stacked with mats on a very comfortable earning thank you, to follow the dictates of the govrnment and the banks who function in unison to ensure profits.

You don't expect the likes of Albowong, Snake Chalmers and such to dirty their hands actually doing something, do you?

Fix the dysfunctional economy?  I've been doing that for years unheard - developing the GAIA prospects in their sweeping majesty, rejecting Offshore Robber Barons getting hold of resource extraction for a song and paying no tax, construction of The National Sovereign Superannuation Fund to benefit all Australians, demanding a cut to mass immigration and the reduction of incompatibles, chopping out the dead wood in academia and government ...... draining the billabongs.... restoring reality and genuine equal rights for all ....
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Reply #17 - Feb 4th, 2026 at 1:03pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 4th, 2026 at 12:41pm:



Good meme -

Why was there an interest rate rise?

https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/chalmers-spending-claim-debunked-by-budget-wa...

New figures from the independent budget watchdog show that higher government spending caused about two-thirds of the $57 billion blow out in the deficit in the next decade, debunking claims by Treasurer Jim Chalmers that weaker tax revenue was mainly to blame.

Numbers from the Parliamentary Budget Office, Treasury, economists Chris Richardson and Stephen Anthony and shadow treasurer Ted O’Brien all show that an increase in future spending was the chief cause of a post-election blowout in the deficit over the medium term.
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Reply #18 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 11:02am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4th, 2026 at 12:07pm:
Of course Labor will 'leave the inflation fight to the RBA' -the RBA is their mouth-piece - their echo chamber - stacked with mats on a very comfortable earning thank you, to follow the dictates of the govrnment and the banks who function in unison to ensure profits.


You are ignoring the fact the CB, tasked with controlling inflation,  is independent of government.

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You don't expect the likes of Albowong, Snake Chalmers and such to dirty their hands actually doing something, do you?


Labor's 'a fair go for all' narrative is already incapacitated by Neoclassical "austerity" economics.

Of course the Libs don't even pretend to believe in "a fair go for all", they are already  screamimg about maintaining tax arrangemets which overwhelmingly benefit the wealthy.


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Fix the dysfunctional economy?


Yes. see above.  

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I've been doing that for years unheard - developing the GAIA prospects in their sweeping majesty, rejecting Offshore Robber Barons getting hold of resource extraction for a song and paying no tax, construction of The National Sovereign Superannuation Fund to benefit all Australians, demanding a cut to mass immigration and the reduction of incompatibles, chopping out the dead wood in academia and government ...... draining the billabongs.... restoring reality and genuine equal rights for all ....


All required as well, but governments captured by dysfunctional Neoclassical economics can't legislate fair taxes - eg, international resource extraction companies claim "sovereign investment risk". 
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Reply #19 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 11:13am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2026 at 1:03pm:
lee wrote on Feb 4th, 2026 at 12:41pm:



Good meme -

Why was there an interest rate rise?

https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/chalmers-spending-claim-debunked-by-budget-wa...

New figures from the independent budget watchdog show that higher government spending caused about two-thirds of the $57 billion blow out in the deficit in the next decade, debunking claims by Treasurer Jim Chalmers that weaker tax revenue was mainly to blame.


This is the AFR's Neoclassical '(public) austerity' narrative - they want even less government spending on essential public services,  while rich individuals  and companies laugh all the way to the bank.

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Numbers from the Parliamentary Budget Office, Treasury, economists Chris Richardson and Stephen Anthony and shadow treasurer Ted O’Brien all show that an increase in future spending was the chief cause of a post-election blowout in the deficit over the medium term.


Read 'The Deficit Myth' by Stephanie Kelton.

Meanwhile greedy bastards (which we all are) insist on maximizing their own wealth, at the cost of less able and competitive individuals.
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Reply #20 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 11:49am
 
Dear TGD,

Jim Chalmers is trying to spin it some other way where he is not at fault -

in fact it is caused by his massive spending from money printing.
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Reply #21 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 1:45pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 11:49am:
Dear TGD,

Jim Chalmers is trying to spin it some other way where he is not at fault -

in fact it is caused by his massive spending from money printing.


Sheer ignorance on your part.

Most money in the economy is created by  "money printing" in private banks, when they write loans for credit-worthy customers.   

[How do you think a new bank lends money on its first day of trading , before it has any depositors' money accounts?]

Like I said: self-interest drives the private sector's affairs, the government's job is to ensure well-being for all.

But Neoclassical 'public austerity' economists who 'rule the roost' are really only microeconomists masquerading as macroeconomists.
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Reply #22 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 5:51pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 1:45pm:
the government's job is to ensure well-being for all.



Explain to us your position on CGT discount again. Roll Eyes
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Reply #23 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 6:01pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 1:45pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 11:49am:
Dear TGD,

Jim Chalmers is trying to spin it some other way where he is not at fault -

in fact it is caused by his massive spending from money printing.


Sheer ignorance on your part.

Most money in the economy is created by  "money printing" in private banks, when they write loans for credit-worthy customers.   

[How do you think a new bank lends money on its first day of trading , before it has any depositors' money accounts?]

Like I said: self-interest drives the private sector's affairs, the government's job is to ensure well-being for all.

But Neoclassical 'public austerity' economists who 'rule the roost' are really only microeconomists masquerading as macroeconomists.



Sheer ignorance on your part.

The Govt. issues Govt. Bonds and the RBA buys them with printed money.

It's the same as giving politicians a blank cheque.

The RBA needs to answer this question every month.

How much money did you print last month?




The RBA pisses me off -
they blame inflation and put up interest rates but
they are the ones who cause inflation by printing money.
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Reply #24 - Feb 6th, 2026 at 10:58am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 6:01pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 1:45pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 11:49am:
Dear TGD,

Jim Chalmers is trying to spin it some other way where he is not at fault -

in fact it is caused by his massive spending from money printing.


Sheer ignorance on your part.

Most money in the economy is created by  "money printing" in private banks, when they write loans for credit-worthy customers.   

[How do you think a new bank lends money on its first day of trading , before it has any depositors' money accounts?]

Like I said: self-interest drives the private sector's affairs, the government's job is to ensure well-being for all.

But Neoclassical 'public austerity' economists who 'rule the roost' are really only microeconomists masquerading as macroeconomists.



Sheer ignorance on your part.

The Govt. issues Govt. Bonds and the RBA buys them with printed money.


Your error: "money printing" by the RBA is confined to periods of economic emergencies:

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"The Australian government issues bonds, and during specific economic crises, the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) has engaged in actions often described as "money printing" to support these bonds, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic.

During the pandemic (2020–2022), the RBA implemented a Bond Purchase Program (BPP). It bought government bonds from commercial banks in the secondary market.

The RBA paid for these bonds by electronically crediting the commercial banks' Exchange Settlement (ES) accounts at the RBA—essentially creating new money "out of thin air".

By early 2022, the RBA had purchased $281 billion in government bonds.


Summary:

In normal times, government issues debt (bonds) to the private sector, to raise money.

[Note: This is an entirely unnecessary convention, because a currency-issuing government, by definition, doesn't need to borrow money. However, moving along...]. 

In economic emergencies, the RBA creates electronic money to purchase that debt, when normal  private-sector operations are too slow or dysfunctional (in the emegency).

The RBA stopped its bond-buying program in February 2022 and has since allowed its bond holdings to mature, reversing the "money printing" process.

ie,  reverting back to normal, with most money printing happening in private banks, when they write loans for credit-worthy customers. 

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It's the same as giving politicians a blank cheque.

The RBA needs to answer this question every month.

How much money did you print last month
?


The question is: in comparison to the money "printed" (ie created ex nihilo)
in private banks.

Then the governement would need to "show the books" to the electorate regularly, to avoid your concerns re a 'blank cheque'.

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The RBA pisses me off -
they blame inflation and put up interest rates but
they are the ones who cause inflation by printing money.


The independent RBA "pisses me off" too...but for different reasons....

The elected government needs to manage costs (inflation) in the economy, by ensuring demand can be met by supply at all times.  not a task for an unelected 'independent' reserve bank.



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Reply #25 - Feb 6th, 2026 at 11:33am
 
TGD,

The RBA needs to stop printing money.
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Reply #26 - Feb 6th, 2026 at 11:46am
 
Even at the age of 68 I still can't work this out.

"Inflation" is claimed to be caused by people spending too much money and the "idea" of interest rate rises is to slow down spending.

Is that right?

So, if people reduce their spending on shopping, holidays, etc., etc. doesn't that mean businesses may have to close (because of lack of customers) and workers lose their jobs?

Make it make sense.

I've suspected this for a long time but this whole financial system is a giant scam designed to keep the population in a constant state of panic which governments, banks and others are happy to see continue indefinitely because it diverts attention from their own massive incompetence, corruption and greed.
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Reply #27 - Feb 6th, 2026 at 12:12pm
 
Carl D wrote on Feb 6th, 2026 at 11:46am:
Even at the age of 68 I still can't work this out.

"Inflation" is claimed to be caused by people spending too much money and the "idea" of interest rate rises is to slow down spending.

Is that right?

So, if people reduce their spending on shopping, holidays, etc., etc. doesn't that mean businesses may have to close (because of lack of customers) and workers lose their jobs?

Make it make sense.

I've suspected this for a long time but this whole financial system is a giant scam designed to keep the population in a constant state of panic which governments, banks and others are happy to see continue indefinitely because it diverts attention from their own massive incompetence, corruption and greed.



The Govts get into hopeless situations.

example.

You pay taxes so you can get a pension when you're old but
that tax money is not put into an account for you -
it all gets spent and then they borrow more on top of that.

So when it comes time to pay you your pension all your money is gone.
What do they do?
they print money to pay you -
and so the cycle continues.
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Reply #28 - Feb 6th, 2026 at 12:34pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2026 at 11:33am:
TGD,

The RBA needs to stop printing money.


Even when the government has to "print" money, to keep people alive in a locked-down economy?
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Reply #29 - Feb 6th, 2026 at 12:54pm
 
Carl D wrote on Feb 6th, 2026 at 11:46am:
Even at the age of 68 I still can't work this out.

"Inflation" is claimed to be caused by people spending too much money and the "idea" of interest rate rises is to slow down spending.

Is that right?


Correct.

But it's an erroneous mainstream idea; interest rate rises (by the RBA)  don't directly address the actual spending which is causing inflation, eg, rises in rents and electricity costs which consumers and the RBA CAN'T control - except by the RBA forcing low income people out their homes, and/or forcing them to die in heat waves,  or freeze to death in winter.

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So, if people reduce their spending on shopping, holidays, etc., etc. doesn't that mean businesses may have to close (because of lack of customers) and workers lose their jobs?


Yes: hence the idiocy of the RBA "crashing the economy to save it" (from inflation)

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Make it make sense.

I've suspected this for a long time but this whole financial system is a giant scam designed to keep the population in a constant state of panic which governments, banks and others are happy to see continue indefinitely because it diverts attention from their own massive incompetence, corruption and greed.


Exactly.

The solution:

https://publicmoneypublicgood.net/

Note: public money, not "taxpayer money" (the old Thatcher myth).

The requirement: acceptance of an appropriate role for government, including balancing demand for goods and services with supply, to avoid inflation.

I can hear the "small government" ideologues screaming from here.... 

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