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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #30 - Today at 7:21pm
 
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Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 3:16pm:
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Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 9:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:18am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:07am:
freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2026 at 9:31am:
Brisbane had one.

Brisbane never had a monorail, like the Sydney one it was a fake and people called it a monorail  because they were told that it was one.


I rode on both of them and I only ever saw one rail.

So, if you don't think they're monorails, what are they?


They are elevated narrow gauge railways that use flat rails and side guide wheels in lieu of flanges on the load bearing wheels.
Note the distinct marks from the wheels on both sides of the track.


Correction, a single flat rail. Count them. You won't get past one. That's what mono means. It doesn't mean flanges wherever it is you want them to be.

It doesn't have to be a bicycle on a tight rope to count as a monorail.

See photos of depot, the cars are clearly stored on two rails as on the traverser which seems to have a non slip coating on the rails.
When I first saw the depot the first storage bay was completely open between the rails to allow work/inspection from underneath; probably at a later date than the photo.
As they can run on two rails in the depot then they can run on two rails anywhere, monorails they are not.


So it's not a monorail because of what the depot looks like?

The tracks in the depot prove thet the trains can , and do, run on two rails, a monorail, as the name exemplifies runs on one rail, ...


The huge concrete structure/beam which the train moves along is the 'rail', and there's only one of them.

The two things the trains move along are the 'tracks'.

There can be a dozen tracks on top of that concrete structure and it would still be a monorail.

A monorail consists of a single, rigid, elevated beam—usually made of concrete or steel.

So the various Metro trains running on elevated massive reinforced concrete beams are really monorails despite having two rails; do they become ordinary trains when they descend to ground level?


You mean 'tracks'.

And yes, if they are on one solid, elevated concrete structure/beam, they're a monorail.

Once on the ground, they are not.



Here’s a ‘’monorail’’’ in Mumbai running on its elevated concrete beams.


That's a train going over a bridge.

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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #31 - Today at 7:32pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Today at 6:36pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 11:37am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Today at 11:13am:
freediver wrote Today at 7:49am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 3:16pm:
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:05pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 9:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:18am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:07am:
freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2026 at 9:31am:
Brisbane had one.

Brisbane never had a monorail, like the Sydney one it was a fake and people called it a monorail  because they were told that it was one.


I rode on both of them and I only ever saw one rail.

So, if you don't think they're monorails, what are they?


They are elevated narrow gauge railways that use flat rails and side guide wheels in lieu of flanges on the load bearing wheels.
Note the distinct marks from the wheels on both sides of the track.


Correction, a single flat rail. Count them. You won't get past one. That's what mono means. It doesn't mean flanges wherever it is you want them to be.

It doesn't have to be a bicycle on a tight rope to count as a monorail.

See photos of depot, the cars are clearly stored on two rails as on the traverser which seems to have a non slip coating on the rails.
When I first saw the depot the first storage bay was completely open between the rails to allow work/inspection from underneath; probably at a later date than the photo.
As they can run on two rails in the depot then they can run on two rails anywhere, monorails they are not.


So it's not a monorail because of what the depot looks like?

The tracks in the depot prove thet the trains can , and do, run on two rails, a monorail, as the name exemplifies runs on one rail, ...


The huge concrete structure/beam which the train moves along is the 'rail', and there's only one of them.

The two things the trains move along are the 'tracks'.

There can be a dozen tracks on top of that concrete structure and it would still be a monorail.

A monorail consists of a single, rigid, elevated beam—usually made of concrete or steel.

So the various Metro trains running on elevated massive reinforced concrete beams are really monorails despite having two rails; do they become ordinary trains when they descend to ground level?


They are not on a single beam. They are on a complex support structure, which supports two dynamically separate beams.
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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #32 - Today at 10:19pm
 
freediver wrote Today at 7:32pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Today at 6:36pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 11:37am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Today at 11:13am:
freediver wrote Today at 7:49am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 3:16pm:
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:05pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 9:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:18am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:07am:
freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2026 at 9:31am:
Brisbane had one.

Brisbane never had a monorail, like the Sydney one it was a fake and people called it a monorail  because they were told that it was one.


I rode on both of them and I only ever saw one rail.

So, if you don't think they're monorails, what are they?


They are elevated narrow gauge railways that use flat rails and side guide wheels in lieu of flanges on the load bearing wheels.
Note the distinct marks from the wheels on both sides of the track.


Correction, a single flat rail. Count them. You won't get past one. That's what mono means. It doesn't mean flanges wherever it is you want them to be.

It doesn't have to be a bicycle on a tight rope to count as a monorail.

See photos of depot, the cars are clearly stored on two rails as on the traverser which seems to have a non slip coating on the rails.
When I first saw the depot the first storage bay was completely open between the rails to allow work/inspection from underneath; probably at a later date than the photo.
As they can run on two rails in the depot then they can run on two rails anywhere, monorails they are not.


So it's not a monorail because of what the depot looks like?

The tracks in the depot prove thet the trains can , and do, run on two rails, a monorail, as the name exemplifies runs on one rail, ...


The huge concrete structure/beam which the train moves along is the 'rail', and there's only one of them.

The two things the trains move along are the 'tracks'.

There can be a dozen tracks on top of that concrete structure and it would still be a monorail.

A monorail consists of a single, rigid, elevated beam—usually made of concrete or steel.

So the various Metro trains running on elevated massive reinforced concrete beams are really monorails despite having two rails; do they become ordinary trains when they descend to ground level?


They are not on a single beam. They are on a complex support structure, which supports two dynamically separate beams.

What are? SydneyMetro or Mumbai’s?
The Mumbai and Delhi Metro trains and others are carried on a single Wooton trough girder and although they run on two rails they fit Gregory’s definition of a ‘’monorail’’; however I think that Gregory is trumped.
The time honoured and historical definition of a Monorail is a single rail, mono means ‘one’.
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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #33 - Today at 10:31pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 7:21pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Today at 7:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 6:40pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Today at 6:36pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 11:37am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Today at 11:13am:
freediver wrote Today at 7:49am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 3:16pm:
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:05pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 9:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:18am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:07am:
freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2026 at 9:31am:
Brisbane had one.

Brisbane never had a monorail, like the Sydney one it was a fake and people called it a monorail  because they were told that it was one.


I rode on both of them and I only ever saw one rail.

So, if you don't think they're monorails, what are they?


They are elevated narrow gauge railways that use flat rails and side guide wheels in lieu of flanges on the load bearing wheels.
Note the distinct marks from the wheels on both sides of the track.


Correction, a single flat rail. Count them. You won't get past one. That's what mono means. It doesn't mean flanges wherever it is you want them to be.

It doesn't have to be a bicycle on a tight rope to count as a monorail.

See photos of depot, the cars are clearly stored on two rails as on the traverser which seems to have a non slip coating on the rails.
When I first saw the depot the first storage bay was completely open between the rails to allow work/inspection from underneath; probably at a later date than the photo.
As they can run on two rails in the depot then they can run on two rails anywhere, monorails they are not.


So it's not a monorail because of what the depot looks like?

The tracks in the depot prove thet the trains can , and do, run on two rails, a monorail, as the name exemplifies runs on one rail, ...


The huge concrete structure/beam which the train moves along is the 'rail', and there's only one of them.

The two things the trains move along are the 'tracks'.

There can be a dozen tracks on top of that concrete structure and it would still be a monorail.

A monorail consists of a single, rigid, elevated beam—usually made of concrete or steel.

So the various Metro trains running on elevated massive reinforced concrete beams are really monorails despite having two rails; do they become ordinary trains when they descend to ground level?


You mean 'tracks'.

And yes, if they are on one solid, elevated concrete structure/beam, they're a monorail.

Once on the ground, they are not.



Here’s a ‘’monorail’’’ in Mumbai running on its elevated concrete beams.


That's a train going over a bridge.


That is a Mumbai Metro train on a. Wooton trough girder made of reinforced concrete and thus fits your definition.
The whole line is elevated over existing vehicular roadways, the supporting columns are between the carriage ways, nary a bridge in sight.
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