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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #15 - Yesterday at 3:39pm
 
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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #16 - Yesterday at 4:24pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 3:22pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 10:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 9:55pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 9:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:18am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:07am:
freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2026 at 9:31am:
Brisbane had one.

Brisbane never had a monorail, like the Sydney one it was a fake and people called it a monorail  because they were told that it was one.


I rode on both of them and I only ever saw one rail.

So, if you don't think they're monorails, what are they?


They are elevated narrow gauge railways that use flat rails and side guide wheels in lieu of flanges on the load bearing wheels.
Note the distinct marks from the wheels on both sides of the track.


Looks like a monorail to me.


Then have a look at the depot where the train carriages are stabled and worked on, two distinct rails.



No.

The 'rail' is the entire concrete structure/beam, and there is only one of those.  Thus, mono.

A monorail track consists of a single, rigid, elevated beam—usually made of concrete or steel—that acts as both the support and guide for the train.

That’s what the manufacturers say when they want to use 19 Century narrow gauge trains in a modern setting.
Monorail is a zip word that sells the product, like calling steam submarines ‘’ Nuclear Powered’’; pulls the wool over the sheeples eyes, and it succeeds; bet you think that 2026 is the 27th year of the current millennium.
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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #17 - Yesterday at 4:40pm
 
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Reply #18 - Yesterday at 8:01pm
 
The Sydney Monorail was unequivocally a real monorail because it operated on a single guideway beam, the defining feature of monorail technology.

Built by Swiss company Von Roll using their Type III (Mk III) straddle-beam design, the system featured rubber-tyred trains that straddled and encircled an elevated reinforced concrete beam approximately 70 cm wide by 80 cm high.

The vehicles ran on top-running drive wheels for propulsion, with side guide wheels for lateral stability and under-running stabilizing wheels to prevent derailment.

This setup allowed the entire train to travel along one continuous structural beam without dual rails, powered electrically at 500-525 V AC via contact rails, reaching operational speeds of up to 33 km/h.

Six seven-car trains, each capable of carrying around 170 passengers (48 seated), formed a functional 3.6 km urban loop serving eight stations, carrying millions over its 25-year lifespan from 1988 to 2013.

Industry sources, including transit reports and monorail databases, consistently classify it as a straddle-beam monorail, the most prevalent modern type worldwide (e.g., similar to systems in Tokyo, Las Vegas, and São Paulo).

Critics who claim it “wasn’t a real monorail” often rely on a narrow, purist definition favoring only suspended monorails—where vehicles hang below the rail, as in Germany’s Wuppertal Schwebebahn—dismissing straddle-beam designs as less “mono” due to the beam’s width and multi-surface contact (top, sides, and bottom).

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this view is subjective and not supported by mainstream transit engineering or organizations like the Monorail Society, which recognize both straddle and suspended types as legitimate monorails.

The Sydney system met every practical criterion: single-beam guidance, elevated separation from traffic, rubber-tired traction on a dedicated guideway, and urban passenger service.

Its shortcomings—low ridership, poor integration, high costs, and eventual replacement by light rail—stemmed from planning and operational choices, not from failing to qualify as a monorail.

In short, it was a genuine, if flawed, example of straddle-beam monorail technology in action.
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Reply #19 - Yesterday at 8:52pm
 
SerialBrain9 wrote Yesterday at 8:01pm:
The Sydney Monorail was unequivocally a real monorail because it operated on a single guideway beam, the defining feature of monorail technology.


Exactly.

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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #20 - Today at 7:49am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 3:16pm:
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:05pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 9:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:18am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:07am:
freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2026 at 9:31am:
Brisbane had one.

Brisbane never had a monorail, like the Sydney one it was a fake and people called it a monorail  because they were told that it was one.


I rode on both of them and I only ever saw one rail.

So, if you don't think they're monorails, what are they?


They are elevated narrow gauge railways that use flat rails and side guide wheels in lieu of flanges on the load bearing wheels.
Note the distinct marks from the wheels on both sides of the track.


Correction, a single flat rail. Count them. You won't get past one. That's what mono means. It doesn't mean flanges wherever it is you want them to be.

It doesn't have to be a bicycle on a tight rope to count as a monorail.

See photos of depot, the cars are clearly stored on two rails as on the traverser which seems to have a non slip coating on the rails.
When I first saw the depot the first storage bay was completely open between the rails to allow work/inspection from underneath; probably at a later date than the photo.
As they can run on two rails in the depot then they can run on two rails anywhere, monorails they are not.


So it's not a monorail because of what the depot looks like?
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