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Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail (Read 1961 times)
Sir Eoin O Fada
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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #105 - Yesterday at 4:17pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 3:51pm:
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freediver wrote Yesterday at 1:40pm:
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hasn’t the mono beam been said to be a rail?


The monorail has been called a rail. Because it is a rail. A monorail. Your confusion, not ours.

Again, let us know when you have made up your mind what a monorail is. It is hard to explain to you why are you wrong if you are wrong for a different reason with every post. Or rather it is easy, for everyone except you. May I suggest starting with a dictionary, seeing as you do not know what a girder is.

I’ve made up my mind, a monorail is a single rail, as in


Just like all the other pictures of monorails that have been posted. Except they aren't a stupid design. It doesn't have to look like a bicycle to be running on a single rail. It would be simple enough to design something that runs on that, but due to your confusion about what is a rail, you would insist it is not a monorail. Probably with some stupid argument that has nothing to do with whether it runs on a single rail, like for example if someone on the internet saw it on two rails in a workshop.

If it can run on two parallel rails then it is not a monorail, monorail trains have their wheels ln a single row, if they have two seperate, or more, rows then they are not monorail trains, they can certainly be monogirder trains but not monorail.

Simple English, don’t let them brainwash you.
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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #106 - Yesterday at 6:30pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 12:09pm:
Gnads wrote Yesterday at 8:16am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 3rd, 2026 at 6:59pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 3rd, 2026 at 6:42pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 3rd, 2026 at 4:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2026 at 2:01pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 3rd, 2026 at 1:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2026 at 1:27pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 3rd, 2026 at 9:20am:
Here’s anotherie clearly running on two rails


Two tracks, on top of one rail.


No, two rails on a girder; in railway parlance the track is the supporting medium and the rails, one rail to a monorail track, 2 rails for a conventional track, 3 rails for rack railways and some electrified systems plus more for some oddities.


The girder is the "rail".

Sydney's monorail ran on one girder/beam.




Except in the depot where it ran on two rails, proving, as I said, that it was not a monorail.



No it did not. They were 2 flat surfaces that although separated were the same width (37 inches) as the single beam on track.

How they put them into the depot is irrelevant to their operation as a Straddle Beam Monorail on track.

Did you ever realise that all railway rails are flat on top, in fact wooden railway rails were very flat except for the railway that used trees for rails and left them round.

Of course the rails in the depot were the same gauge as the running surfaces on the beams, otherwise the trains would have fallen off.

Do you know when the current millennium started or were you brainwashed on that too?

As an aside, what do you think of a government that would licence a supposed passenger carrier as an amusement ride and keep the fact quiet so as not to adversely affect the paying patronage?


Now you're just being ridiculous. You want to draw out the dimensions of a full Class A 68kg rail?

Of course there is a top of the rail but for your information it's not flat it is slightly rounded.

So are wagon wheels & locomotive wheels. Flanges are angled/bevelled.

What happens to wagon wheels if they're excessively skidded? They get flat spots/burn marks that have machined out..... the same for the top of rails.

That’s a new rail, most rails are flat on top after some use.

"some use" is wear & tear & that is rectified with maintenance. Optimal performance is maintained with good wheel & rail surfacing.

You really have no idea - when they're too flat they're replaced or a Rail Grinding Machine goes over them & reshapes them.



Rollingstock wheels are replaced when to worn & the flange is considered "sharp".

Trains will derail going through points because of sharp flanges.

Locomotives & Electric Multiple Units are sent into a wheel lathe.




The contact between the wheel & rail is only a smaller area. That's why the wheel wears in the middle & on the flange(on curves) - curves which have auto graphite greasers to reduce wheel wear & squealing.

And in wet conditions all locomotives are fitted with sand boxes that drop sand onto the track to prevent wheel slip.


You are still wrong in all your pedantic arguing about what constitutes a monorail, a rail line or track.

Rubber tyre marks on a flat surface do not make it a rail.

As for trying to tell me what railways are all about -
no cigar.
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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #107 - Yesterday at 6:38pm
 
You can see it at manor rail.
Manor is a closed station which was located about halfway between Werribee and Little River stations on the Geelong railway line in Victoria, Australia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manor_railway_station
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Reply #108 - Yesterday at 6:56pm
 
Here's another for you SEOF - You're still wrong.
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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #109 - Yesterday at 7:03pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 4:17pm:
freediver wrote Yesterday at 3:51pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 3:13pm:
freediver wrote Yesterday at 1:40pm:
Quote:
hasn’t the mono beam been said to be a rail?


The monorail has been called a rail. Because it is a rail. A monorail. Your confusion, not ours.

Again, let us know when you have made up your mind what a monorail is. It is hard to explain to you why are you wrong if you are wrong for a different reason with every post. Or rather it is easy, for everyone except you. May I suggest starting with a dictionary, seeing as you do not know what a girder is.

I’ve made up my mind, a monorail is a single rail, as in


Just like all the other pictures of monorails that have been posted. Except they aren't a stupid design. It doesn't have to look like a bicycle to be running on a single rail. It would be simple enough to design something that runs on that, but due to your confusion about what is a rail, you would insist it is not a monorail. Probably with some stupid argument that has nothing to do with whether it runs on a single rail, like for example if someone on the internet saw it on two rails in a workshop.

If it can run on two parallel rails then it is not a monorail, monorail trains have their wheels ln a single row, if they have two seperate, or more, rows then they are not monorail trains, they can certainly be monogirder trains but not monorail.

Simple English, don’t let them brainwash you.


No they don't you old DH.

The majority of the worlds straddle beam monorails drive wheels are in 2 sets a short distance apart under the middle of the cars.

That's why you see 2 sets of rubber tyre marks on the single(mono) beam or girder close to each edge.

The delusion is you think they are rails/tracks.

Your the one who needs the brain washed .... because you're "wrong" in every sense of the word.

You know SFA about rail of any sort ... period.
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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #110 - Yesterday at 7:06pm
 
‘’ . . . when they're too flat they're replaced or a Rail Grinding Machine goes over them & reshapes them’’

To be ‘’too flat’’ indicates an acceptable period of flatness, and a look around rail facilities will reveal lots of flat rails.

‘’ That's why you see 2 sets of rubber tyre marks on the single(mono) beam or girder close to each edge.’’

Precisely, that’s why they are not monorails, monobeam/girder but not mono (single) rail.
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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #111 - Yesterday at 7:17pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 7:06pm:
‘’ . . . when they're too flat they're replaced or a Rail Grinding Machine goes over them & reshapes them’’

To be ‘’too flat’’ indicates an acceptable period of flatness, and a look around rail facilities will reveal lots of flat rails.

‘’ That's why you see 2 sets of rubber tyre marks on the single(mono) beam or girder close to each edge.’’

Precisely, that’s why they are not monorails, monobeam/girder but not mono (single) rail.


You wouldn't know shyte from clay ... all assumption by you.

The girder is the rail(single) how they're propelled over that flat surface is irrellevant.

The rest of the world that call straddle beams monorails say you're wrong & so do I.

All you have is pedantic bs.
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Re: Remnants of Sydney’s Monorail
Reply #112 - Yesterday at 7:49pm
 
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monorail trains have their wheels ln a single row


Yet another random definition of a monorail that has nothing to do with a monorail
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