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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16508 Gender:	Re: Neo-Nazi arrested over hate speech Reply #150 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 5:08pm The 'walking along the beach' scenario reminds me of riparian rights... where a landowner's property could extend into the water. Many an unwitting beachwalker would be confronted by some old fart who claimed riparian rights and ordered the beachwalkers off their property.
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Reply #151 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 5:25pm

chimera wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 2:07pm:

You don't understand logic and progression of an idea, heh.

Your "progression of an idea" is merely a ruse to avoid addressing the original point.

Hence bobby and I are still in the dark re your "other person" (involved in the conspiracy, in law).

Logic doesn't work that way, ie, expecting the opposition to think the way you want, via a progression of (your) "idea".

You chimp.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14602 Armidale Gender:	Re: Neo-Nazi arrested over hate speech Reply #152 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 5:40pm I put it in a ridculously simple way and you still can't get it? A law applies to all people. Conspiracy is between any two people. That law prevents speech to organise a crime. It's connected with restricting hate speech.
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Reply #153 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 5:41pm

chimera wrote on Feb 1^st, 2026 at 1:23pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 1^st, 2026 at 1:07pm:

chimera wrote on Feb 1^st, 2026 at 12:50pm:

You asked which two people.

You confused again?

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 31^st, 2026 at 11:54am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 29^th, 2026 at 8:17am:

Who were the 2 people and what are you talking about?

I'd like to know that as well.

bobby and I were discussing the alleged neo-nazi who was charged with "hate speech".

You chimed in, ruminating about a "conspiracy" (in law) involving 2 people......

We still want to know what those 2 people you referred to have to do with the supposed neo-nazi, who words might only be exposing the influence of the zionist lobby.

Keep obfuscating, you chimp.

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Reply #154 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 5:45pm

chimera wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 5:40pm:

I put it in a ridculously simple way and you still can't get it?
A law applies to all people. Conspiracy is between any two people.
That law prevents speech to organise a crime. It's connected with restricting hate speech.

Exposing the egregious influence of the Zionist lobby isn't "hate speech", and there is no conspiracy in this case.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14602 Armidale Gender:	Re: Neo-Nazi arrested over hate speech Reply #155 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 5:48pm Probably you stay all day at Stop signs.
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Reply #156 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:21pm

freediver wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 3:00pm:

If you live alone on a desert Island, you have the right to walk along the beach.

Who granted that 'right' to you alone on the island?

Did Tom Hanks have the right to remain silent on his desert island?

If so, it's a good thing he didn't exercise it... the movie was boring enough as it was.

Thank god for 'Wilson', eh!

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Reply #157 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:22pm

Meister, I am sure there is something at the start of your legal textbook explaining that reality does not spring forth from the pages of legal documents. Perhaps it was too subtle for you. You almost grasped it when you started backpedalling to those vague and nebulous concepts like societal contract and greater forces, but you got lost along the way. Again.

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Reply #158 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 5:45pm:

chimera wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 5:40pm:

I put it in a ridculously simple way and you still can't get it?
A law applies to all people. Conspiracy is between any two people.
That law prevents speech to organise a crime. It's connected with restricting hate speech.

Exposing the egregious influence of the Zionist lobby isn't "hate speech", and there is no conspiracy in this case.

That depends on who has the authority to determine what is hate speech and whether or not the accused can appeal to their right to speak in that manner, and if that right is protected and if it is upheld in a court...

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52334 At my desk.	Re: Neo-Nazi arrested over hate speech Reply #159 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:29pm When I tell you troubling things, like that rights might exist outside of pieces of paper, I meant in that reality which does not spring forth from the pages of legal texts. I'm sure you could make your way there somehow.
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Reply #160 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:34pm

freediver wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:22pm:

Meister, I am sure there is something at the start of your legal textbook explaining that reality does not spring forth from the pages of legal documents. Perhaps it was too subtle for you. You almost grasped it when you started backpedalling to those vague and nebulous concepts like societal contract and greater forces, but you got lost along the way. Again.

How do you manage your cognitive dissonance as you muddle through your self-embarrassment?

What do rights mean outside a society and a social contract pertaining to that society?

Language confuses you, I can see that. Do you have anyone to help you with that?

You're like the Australian teenager who rails against being told to shut up by claiming he has a Constitutional and inalienable right to free speech, as bestowed on him at his birth by a god.

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Reply #161 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:38pm

freediver wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:29pm:

When I tell you troubling things, like that rights might exist outside of pieces of paper, I meant in that reality which does not spring forth from the pages of legal texts. I'm sure you could make your way there somehow.

Is there a right separate from society, from societal contract, without invoking deific bestowal, that you can define?

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Reply #162 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:39pm

Meister do you actually believe that you have the right to do something, even if the consistent and predictable result is someone trying to kill you, because pieces of paper trump reality? And if so, why did you start back pedalling to those vague and nebulous concepts like societal contract and greater forces?

Or were you just being slippery and evasive?

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Reply #163 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:44pm

freediver wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:39pm:

Meister do you actually believe that you have the right to do something, even if the consistent and predictable result is someone trying to kill you, because pieces of paper trump reality? And if so, why did you start back pedalling to those vague and nebulous concepts like societal contract and greater forces?

Or were you just being slippery and evasive?

Wars have been fought, people have died, for that exact cause.

The American colonists claimed the right to overthrow tyrannical government, which they wrote on a piece of paper, and charged the British king with tyranny, then took up arms against him to assert their newly-codified rights.

Under the British social contract, the colonists were committing acts of treason and sedition against their rightful sovereign.

The matter was settled when the stronger forces prevailed over the weaker ones.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52334 At my desk.	Re: Neo-Nazi arrested over hate speech Reply #164 - Feb 2^nd, 2026 at 6:51pm You didn't answer the question Meister.
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