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Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill
Reply #45 - Jan 21^st, 2026 at 8:03pm

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2 murderers. The targets were Jewish Australians.

Obviously. The murderers were Muslims, and the leftwing loonies had been playing "blame the Jews" for years. Though they are strangely silent on it now. Perhaps the Muslims thought Australians wouldn't mind a bit of a slaughter on the streets.

What point are you trying to make?

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Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill
Reply #46 - Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 3:05pm:

Hi Yadda,
you'll have to watch what you write now -
the new laws are in force -

it will be like having tape over your mouth.

Big Brother is watching everything.

bobby,

What will i be charged with ?

Upsetting the sensibilities of the followers of ISLAM ?
.....by revealing on a forum, what anyone who attends a mosque in Australia could easily hear or learn ?

bobby,

Will the judge find me guilty, of being politically incorrect,
for telling [on a public forum] obvious truths about ISLAM's authentic violent traditions and beliefs ?

e.g.

Instruction from the prophet of ALLAH,
in the hadith....
to all devout followers of ISLAM.

"...the Prophet said,
'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion,
kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

Another example of the reported conduct,
of Mohammed [Allah's messenger].....

Plainly, in ISLAMIC religious tradition....Mohammed instructs the moslem, that murdering [critics of ISLAM] for his 'religion' is HALAL ['clean' and Holy]....

As Mohammed himself, clearly sanctioned such actions.

"Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf
who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?"
Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes,"
Muhammad bin Maslama said,
"Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab).
"The Prophet said, "You may say it." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #005.059.369

n.b.
In Mohammeds account, a MAN, Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf,
is able to 'hurt' Allah, ISLAM's all powerful GOD [and Mohammed].

AS IF.

Q.
If moslems believe that Allah, is the real, and all powerful God,
why didn't Allah himself, strike down Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf,
if Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf had 'injured' Allah ?

bobby,

When i'm imprisoned, will you send me 'care packages',
to ease my period of incarceration ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 116437 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill Reply #47 - Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:50pm Yadda, Quote: bobby, When I'm imprisoned, will you send me 'care packages', to ease my period of incarceration ? I reckon you'll beat the charges as you're only a messenger - quoting directly from the holy text.
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Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill
Reply #48 - Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 9:50pm:

Yadda,
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bobby,

When I'm imprisoned, will you send me 'care packages',
to ease my period of incarceration ?

I reckon you'll beat the charges as you're only a messenger -
quoting directly from the holy text.

Maybe not bobby.

If i do not [if i refuse to] defend against the charges in court.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill
Reply #49 - Jan 21^st, 2026 at 11:17pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YmEcnRMWWPA

“ Attorney-General attempts to explain extent of hate speech laws | 7.30”

Two attempts to explain how the new hate laws work and she still couldn’t.

My take away is that the laws can be interpreted differently as suits the circumstances.

So if a group of pro Hamas protesters chose to march around Tony Burqa electoral district chanting “ gas the Jews”
That’s not hate speech.

However if say a large number of protesters of mainly Australian descent were to march around Cronulla chanting “ piss off Muslim bake home “.
That would entirely be breaking the hate speech laws and they would arrested immediately.
The new laws as clear as mud!

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Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill
Reply #50 - Jan 21^st, 2026 at 11:21pm

chimera wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 4:43pm:

tallowood wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 4:41pm:

Are you saying that shooting few Muslims in Australia here and there for religious reason will be ok, nothing to worry about?

No.

Are you saying
the two murderers are Islam slaughtering Australia?

QUESTION;
What is Allah's opinion about who 'are ISLAM'......in Australia ?

Allah gives his INSTRUCTION, in these KORAN verses...

n.b.
Allah STATES, that those who claim to be devout moslems [i.e. 'ISLAM'],
but refuse to participate in the 'struggle' ["fight in the cause of Allah"] of others moslems,
are not moslems [and are not 'ISLAM'].

And that [below] is Allah speaking !

"Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"
Koran 4.95

i.e.
Religious fighting is an obligation upon every devout moslem.

Allah views with disdain those who avoid this obligation to him.
see also, Koran 2.76-78, Koran 9.73-85

EVEN MORE from Allah......

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

"Say: "...If ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men,
then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!" "
Koran 62.06

n.b.

Koran 62.06 is admonishing the believer,
that his only true love, in this life [if he is a true moslem],
is to die, fighting in Allah's cause [aka JIHAD]. !!!

And THAT, is ISLAM.....according to Allah, himself..

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Quote:

"This nation [i.e. the moslem nation/community,
the ummah]
has been and will continue to be a nation of Jihad until Judgement day.

MAKE NO MISTAKE: THE NATION HAS NOT CHANGED ITS THINKING,
ITS RELIGION,
OR ITS FAITH. [i.e. a moslem, IS, a moslem!!!]

IT HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A NATION OF JIHAD
UNTIL JUDGEMENT DAY."

Australian Islamist Leaders Incite to Jihad to Expel Jews from Palestine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN6B8WBzbpw

Hizb Al-Tahrir Rally,
In Australia.
2014, July

QUESTIONS;
WITHIN THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY,
WITHIN AUSTRALIA.......

What is the definition of Jihad ?

What is the definition of, "the cause of Allah" ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill
Reply #51 - Jan 21^st, 2026 at 11:23pm

chimera wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 4:43pm:

tallowood wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 4:41pm:

Are you saying that shooting few Muslims in Australia here and there for religious reason will be ok, nothing to worry about?

No. Are you saying the two murderers are Islam slaughtering Australia?

They had a good shot at it... what part of Australian citizens of any kind is difficult to fit in here?

Of course it is against Australians....

I ask again - why would two Pakistani/Indian Muslim men set out to kill Jewish people who they have never connected with in any way - unless it was purely religiously motivated?

Weasel me this ......

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14317 Armidale Gender:	Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill Reply #52 - Yesterday at 7:11am The evidence for Imams directing slaughter of Australians is 1 event by 2 men, in 160 years. Probably 2 people are 800,000 people. Not sure. $2=$800,000 and can buy a house.
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Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill
Reply #53 - Yesterday at 8:12am

chimera wrote Yesterday at 7:11am:

The evidence for Imams directing slaughter of Australians is 1 event by 2 men, in 160 years.

Probably 2 people are 800,000 people. Not sure. $2=$800,000 and can buy a house.

This is not the only jihadi act in Australia, dunderhead. It's not even the first mass murder by Muslims in Australia.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14317 Armidale Gender:	Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill Reply #54 - Yesterday at 8:21am But the claim is that Imams preached for it. If 1 event is this proof, then the claim looks wobbly. Almost like the Imams in general aren't doing that. How about this? https://icct.nl/sites/default/files/import/publication/INGRAM-nato-chapter-21JUL...
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Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill
Reply #55 - Yesterday at 9:30am

chimera wrote Yesterday at 8:21am:

But the claim is that Imams preached for it. If 1 event is this proof, then the claim looks wobbly. Almost like the Imams in general aren't doing that.

How about this?
https://icct.nl/sites/default/files/import/publication/INGRAM-nato-chapter-21JUL...

Well, who IS doing it then?

Islamic preachers, leaders, spiritual guides. elders - call them what you will. It is Islamic doctrine to fight the infidel. They are fighting the infidel.

You do not need to twist yourself into pretzels.

Islam is the motivation. You do not have Quakers, Buddhists, Anglicans shooting up Muslim or Jewish or Catholic or Sikh.

It's Muslims killing infidels for Allah. Ockam's Razor.
Violent antisemitism has been growing everywhere in the West in exact proportion to Muslim immigration. Causation, not correlation.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14317 Armidale Gender:	Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill Reply #56 - Yesterday at 9:33am That's right. You get Anglo Saxons in bikie gangs, terrorising the chooks and the Irish. Report them all, ASIO is waiting.
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Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill
Reply #57 - Yesterday at 10:35am

chimera wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 5:18pm:

tallowood wrote on Jan 21^st, 2026 at 2:15pm:

As slaughter of Australians occurred at Bondi, it appears Imams meant to slaughter the infidel and should be punished for inciting violence against Australians.

2 murderers. The targets were Jewish Australians. The Imams spoke to .8mill Muslims, and during decades to Muslim population.
Logic please.

Yes, obvious religious motivation.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14317 Armidale Gender:	Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill Reply #58 - Yesterday at 10:44am But not evidently from the Imam's preaching. Proof is against it. (But it must be the Imams. It has to be).
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tallowood Gold Member Online Израиль Навсегда Posts: 6791	Re: Religious exemption in hate speech bill Reply #59 - Yesterday at 10:49am chimera wrote Yesterday at 10:44am: (But it must be the Imams. It has to be). Yes.
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