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Jan 20th, 2026 at 7:23pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 15th, 2025 at 7:19pm:
Why do we have Muslims here...


Ask Barbara Lerner Spectre who said Jews take a 'leading role' in multiculturalism:

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Ask the Jews who said Islamization of the West is a good thing

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Reply #1 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 7:40am
 
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Barbara Lerner Spectre who said Jews take a 'leading role' in multiculturalism


This is what multiculturalism brings to the West.

Note how they euphemistically call him 'asylum seeker' instead of the more factual illegal migrant.


Asylum seeker jailed for 29 years for stab murder



An asylum seeker has been jailed for life for the murder of a woman who worked at the hotel at which he was staying.

Deng Majek stabbed Rhiannon Whyte 23 times with a screwdriver in a frenzied 90-second attack in 2024 after following the 27-year-old to Bescot Stadium railway station in Walsall.

He was later caught on CCTV dancing and laughing.

As Majek was handed a minimum term of 29 years at Coventry Crown Court on Friday, his victim's mother wiped away tears.


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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yvwdgjpj3o
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Reply #2 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 11:22am
 
waggawoody wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 7:40am:
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Barbara Lerner Spectre who said Jews take a 'leading role' in multiculturalism


This is what multiculturalism brings to the West.

Note how they euphemistically call him 'asylum seeker' instead of the more factual illegal migrant.


Asylum seeker jailed for 29 years for stab murder



An asylum seeker has been jailed for life for the murder of a woman who worked at the hotel at which he was staying.

Deng Majek stabbed Rhiannon Whyte 23 times with a screwdriver in a frenzied 90-second attack in 2024 after following the 27-year-old to Bescot Stadium railway station in Walsall.

He was later caught on CCTV dancing and laughing.

As Majek was handed a minimum term of 29 years at Coventry Crown Court on Friday, his victim's mother wiped away tears.


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The media is driving all the hostility and confusion, abusing language on a daily basis to suit some Agenda that even on the surface, looks insane to the ordinary person.

You need to - every one of you - ask yourselves why that is.

You know it can't be for real -  most Mussos aren't nasty .... Aboriginals, apart from a few meat-heads and mental cases, don't hate us or want all the crap .... most kids, silly as they are, don't really want to be 'transgender' being as it's just a game that has no consequences until pushed too far, then most eventually regret it  ...  nobody is out there hating on and killing poofs ... nobody in the west is 'oppressing' women these days...

But if you listen to the media and 'social media', you would swear we are all perpetually in a war against one another.

It can only be all about sales and 'revenue' - some kid on Farcbot the other day actually admitted he gets paid for his click-bait about 'trannies', and I've gone up against Farcebot over their need to provide a safer space for people to discuss..... and it's all just botted away without thought....

I warned you all about AI.... in the years I've been here I don't think any of you listened to what I say - but I keep being shown to be right over and over.  Filter your water, boil it, and be careful about the pills you take.


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But if you listen to the media and 'social media', you would swear we are all perpetually in a war against one another.


The Muslims are. Against each other and everyone else. That's why all the long term Muslim majority countries are such shitholes. The Sunni vs Shite thing is always simmering away somewhere, with the aid of the wealthier Muslim countries. The Palestinians are always plotting some scheme to kill more Jews.

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Go to a long term Muslim majority country. The people there are probably very nice. Until you try to exercise all the rights you have here. Then you might end up dead or in jail very quickly. That's why they are all so polite, because they turn nasty at the slightest provocation. Politeness isn't a value or a virtue, its a survival strategy.
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FD,
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The Muslims are. Against each other and everyone else. That's why all the long term Muslim majority countries are such shitholes. The Sunni vs Shite thing is always simmering away somewhere, with the aid of the wealthier Muslim countries.


It wasn't that long ago that the Irish were killing each other
over whether they were Catholics or Protestants -

yet the law for all Abrahamic religions says -

thou shalt not kill.
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over whether they were Catholics or Protestants


And yet I guarantee you that you would have preferred to live in Ireland than Egypt. You still would. Even the worst example you can come up with is still a lot better than a typical long term Muslim majority country. This is not some random accident of history, but a consequence of the ideologies that the society is rooted in.
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freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 11:33am:
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But if you listen to the media and 'social media', you would swear we are all perpetually in a war against one another.


The Muslims are. Against each other and everyone else. That's why all the long term Muslim majority countries are such shitholes. The Sunni vs Shite thing is always simmering away somewhere, with the aid of the wealthier Muslim countries. The Palestinians are always plotting some scheme to kill more Jews.

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most Mussos aren't nasty


Go to a long term Muslim majority country. The people there are probably very nice. Until you try to exercise all the rights you have here. Then you might end up dead or in jail very quickly. That's why they are all so polite, because they turn nasty at the slightest provocation. Politeness isn't a value or a virtue, its a survival strategy.




Some truth to that.
I love Dubai and find the place very well run and aspirational .
But the authorities are still stern .
Was there during Ramadan.
They set up screened off area where westerners can grab a bite during the day.
But if you step out of that area  still holding a bit of your muesli bar and they WILL arrest you
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Reply #7 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 12:42pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 12:32pm:
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It wasn't that long ago that the Irish were killing each other
over whether they were Catholics or Protestants


And yet I guarantee you that you would have preferred to live in Ireland than Egypt. You still would. Even the worst example you can come up with is still a lot better than a typical long term Muslim majority country. This is not some random accident of history, but a consequence of the ideologies that the society is rooted in.



At least in Ireland they speak English and they have a good standard of living.

Check out Beirut - perfect climate but impoverished with no future.
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freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 12:32pm:
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It wasn't that long ago that the Irish were killing each other
over whether they were Catholics or Protestants


And yet I guarantee you that you would have preferred to live in Ireland than Egypt. You still would. Even the worst example you can come up with is still a lot better than a typical long term Muslim majority country. This is not some random accident of history, but a consequence of the ideologies that the society is rooted in.


... and rooted by ... never lose track of your vernacular...
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freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 11:33am:
That's why all the long term Muslim majority countries are such shitholes. The Sunni vs Shite thing is always simmering away somewhere, with the aid of the wealthier Muslim countries. The Palestinians are always plotting some scheme to kill more Jews.

Shitholes?

Saudi Arabia's GDP per capita varies slightly by source and year, but recent estimates for 2024/2025 hover around $35,000 - $35,200 (nominal) and significantly higher for Purchasing Power Parity (PPP), around $65,000 - $74,000, reflecting strong economic output relative to population, with some sources projecting even higher figures.

And as for Palestinians, you are writing them all off as one monolithic block wanting the slaughter of Jews.


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Go to a long term Muslim majority country. The people there are probably very nice. Until you try to exercise all the rights you have here. Then you might end up dead or in jail very quickly. That's why they are all so polite, because they turn nasty at the slightest provocation. Politeness isn't a value or a virtue, its a survival strategy.


Yes, fundamentalist rule by government  is problematic

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Yes.

Perhaps you are confused because I so often talk about how poor China is. But it is a shithole for many other reasons, most of them to do with the oppressive CCP regime. For example, they won't even let Chinese people freely access the internet.
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Reply #11 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 2:37pm
 
waggawoody wrote on Jan 20th, 2026 at 7:23pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 15th, 2025 at 7:19pm:
Why do we have Muslims here...


Ask Barbara Lerner Spectre who said Jews take a 'leading role' in multiculturalism:

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Ask the Jews who said Islamization of the West is a good thing


Are you saying that Muslims are in Europe because Barbara's opinion about multiculturalism?
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Bobby. wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 12:29pm:
FD,
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The Muslims are. Against each other and everyone else. That's why all the long term Muslim majority countries are such shitholes. The Sunni vs Shite thing is always simmering away somewhere, with the aid of the wealthier Muslim countries.


It wasn't that long ago that the Irish were killing each other
over whether they were Catholics or Protestants -

yet the law for all Abrahamic religions says -

thou shalt not kill.

Utter bullshit, Bobby.
The first elected President of the Republic of Ireland, Dr. Douglas Hyde was a Protestant, the voters were over 90% Catholic.
The Primate of the Church of Ireland (Protestant) lives in the predominantly Catholic Republic, because he is not safe in the Orange Order dominated British occupied Northern Ireland.
The members of the strange breed of Protestantism in Northern Ireland have certainly killed Catholics just because they were Catholic, one historical example is when the State put voting centres for Catholics in Orange Order controlled districts and Catholics who attempted to vote were shot at and if they persisted in exercising their British guaranteed rights they were shot.
Learn a bit of history.
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Reply #13 - Feb 5th, 2026 at 4:33pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 4:07pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 12:29pm:
FD,
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The Muslims are. Against each other and everyone else. That's why all the long term Muslim majority countries are such shitholes. The Sunni vs Shite thing is always simmering away somewhere, with the aid of the wealthier Muslim countries.


It wasn't that long ago that the Irish were killing each other
over whether they were Catholics or Protestants -

yet the law for all Abrahamic religions says -

thou shalt not kill.

Utter bullshit, Bobby.
The first elected President of the Republic of Ireland, Dr. Douglas Hyde was a Protestant, the voters were over 90% Catholic.
The Primate of the Church of Ireland (Protestant) lives in the predominantly Catholic Republic, because he is not safe in the Orange Order dominated British occupied Northern Ireland.
The members of the strange breed of Protestantism in Northern Ireland have certainly killed Catholics just because they were Catholic, one historical example is when the State put voting centres for Catholics in Orange Order controlled districts and Catholics who attempted to vote were shot at and if they persisted in exercising their British guaranteed rights they were shot.
Learn a bit of history.



Exactly what did I write that is bullshit?     Undecided
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freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 2:27pm:
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Shitholes?


Yes.

Perhaps you are confused because I so often talk about how poor China is.


No, you haven't defined shithole: obviously S. Arabia insn't a poverty-benighted shithole.

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But it is a shithole for many other reasons, most of them to do with the oppressive CCP regime. For example, they won't even let Chinese people freely access the internet.


Ah - so by 'shithole' you mean countries with constitutions you don't approve of....

Please define your terms.   
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No, you haven't defined shithole: obviously S. Arabia insn't a poverty-benighted shithole.


No. It is a shithole sitting on a massive oil field. Did you know they recently allowed women to drive?
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Reply #16 - Feb 6th, 2026 at 10:39am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 4:07pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 12:29pm:
FD,
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The Muslims are. Against each other and everyone else. That's why all the long term Muslim majority countries are such shitholes. The Sunni vs Shite thing is always simmering away somewhere, with the aid of the wealthier Muslim countries.


It wasn't that long ago that the Irish were killing each other
over whether they were Catholics or Protestants -

yet the law for all Abrahamic religions says -

thou shalt not kill.

Utter bullshit, Bobby.
The first elected President of the Republic of Ireland, Dr. Douglas Hyde was a Protestant, the voters were over 90% Catholic.
The Primate of the Church of Ireland (Protestant) lives in the predominantly Catholic Republic, because he is not safe in the Orange Order dominated British occupied Northern Ireland.
The members of the strange breed of Protestantism in Northern Ireland have certainly killed Catholics just because they were Catholic, one historical example is when the State put voting centres for Catholics in Orange Order controlled districts and Catholics who attempted to vote were shot at and if they persisted in exercising their British guaranteed rights they were shot.
Learn a bit of history.

Well, there was, y'know... the IRA... funded by the Mafia and Irish-descent New Yorkers when it was focused on killing British citizens.

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Reply #17 - Yesterday at 8:59pm
 
tallowood wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 2:37pm:
waggawoody wrote on Jan 20th, 2026 at 7:23pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 15th, 2025 at 7:19pm:
Why do we have Muslims here...


Ask Barbara Lerner Spectre who said Jews take a 'leading role' in multiculturalism:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/barbara-spectre.jpg
Ask the Jews who said Islamization of the West is a good thing


Are you saying that Muslims are in Europe because Barbara's opinion about multiculturalism?



It's not opinion. It's policy.
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Bobby. wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 12:42pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 12:32pm:
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It wasn't that long ago that the Irish were killing each other
over whether they were Catholics or Protestants


And yet I guarantee you that you would have preferred to live in Ireland than Egypt. You still would. Even the worst example you can come up with is still a lot better than a typical long term Muslim majority country. This is not some random accident of history, but a consequence of the ideologies that the society is rooted in.



At least in Ireland they speak English and they have a good standard of living.

Check out Beirut - perfect climate but impoverished with no future.


Lebanon is a failed Islamic state shytehole.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 2:03pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2026 at 11:33am:
That's why all the long term Muslim majority countries are such shitholes. The Sunni vs Shite thing is always simmering away somewhere, with the aid of the wealthier Muslim countries. The Palestinians are always plotting some scheme to kill more Jews.

Shitholes?

Saudi Arabia's GDP per capita varies slightly by source and year, but recent estimates for 2024/2025 hover around $35,000 - $35,200 (nominal) and significantly higher for Purchasing Power Parity (PPP), around $65,000 - $74,000, reflecting strong economic output relative to population, with some sources projecting even higher figures.

And as for Palestinians, you are writing them all off as one monolithic block wanting the slaughter of Jews.


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Go to a long term Muslim majority country. The people there are probably very nice. Until you try to exercise all the rights you have here. Then you might end up dead or in jail very quickly. That's why they are all so polite, because they turn nasty at the slightest provocation. Politeness isn't a value or a virtue, its a survival strategy.


Yes, fundamentalist rule by government  is problematic



What was Saudi Arabia before the Westerners discovered oil for them? It's still a place where they stone women to death, chop off hands & feet....

where they have given lip service to giving women some rights to education & to drive.

in fact without the discovery of oil all the UAE & Saudis would be desert tent dwelling camel riding Bedouins.

As for your statement about Palestinians they are one monolithic block wanting the slaughter of Jews.

Never mind the fact that there is no such country as Palestine never has been nor a people called Palestinian.
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Gnads wrote Today at 9:21am:
As for your statement about Palestinians they are one monolithic block wanting the slaughter of Jews.

Never mind the fact that there is no such country as Palestine never has been nor a people called Palestinian.

No, that would be the Europeans, who've spent most of the last 2000 years slaughtering Jews for being Jews.

Palestine, never a country, eh! Before 1948, even Jews living in the region... even Zionists, referred to themselves as Palestinian Jews... why would that be?

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MeisterEckhart wrote Today at 9:28am:
Gnads wrote Today at 9:21am:
As for your statement about Palestinians they are one monolithic block wanting the slaughter of Jews.

Never mind the fact that there is no such country as Palestine never has been nor a people called Palestinian.

No, that would be the Europeans, who've spent most of the last 2000 years slaughtering Jews for being Jews.

Palestine, never a country, eh! Before 1948, even Jews living in the region... even Zionists, referred to themselves as Palestinian Jews... why would that be?



No never a country..... just a geographical location called Syria Palestina .. named such by the Romans to punish the Jews ... to disconnect/disassociate them from the land.

The kingdom/country was Israel & Judah.

And I have oft said that if there was really a country called Palestine & a people called Palestinians then Jews would also be Palestinians.
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All of the Muslim "holy sites" in Israel are fairly recent historical inventions. Mostly Muslims trying to make a bit of money of the religious fervor.
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In the early years of the Zionist movement, from thelate 19th century into the first quarter of the 20th century, there was a small but steady stream of European Jewish migrants into Palestine.

Arab Muslims in the region at first tolerated this migration, but as the number of migrants began to swell, they became increasingly uneasy.

By the time Vladimir Jabotinsky redefined Zionism from its peaceful, negotiation-centric philosophy in dealing with Jewish-Muslim-Arab unease and conflict to its militant form, violent conflicts had become commonplace.

But, as Jabotinsky said, Arabs aren't fools. There's no amount of peaceful Jewish reassurance that the massive shift in demography due to Jewish immigration would not result in a political redefinition of the region, so why insult them with lies? Better to become militarily strong, then negotiate with Arabs from a position of strength.

That was the plan, anyway.
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Gnads wrote Today at 9:35am:
No never a country..... just a geographical location called Syria Palestina .. named such by the Romans to punish the Jews ... to disconnect/disassociate them from the land.

The kingdom/country was Israel & Judah.

And I have oft said that if there was really a country called Palestine & a people called Palestinians then Jews would also be Palestinians.

The region known as Israel & Judea was abolished around 150AD.

If even Jews once referred to themselves as Palestinian Jews, that indicates that even they acceded to the legitimacy of the region's name.

If Indonesia claimed that northern Australia was once part of the region occupied by Indonesian peoples nearly 2000 years ago, and now they want it back, would you agree?

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All of the Muslim "holy sites" in Israel are fairly recent historical inventions. Mostly Muslims trying to make a bit of money of the religious fervor.

The site of the al-Aqsa Mosque has been considered one of the holiest sites of Islam since Islam's founding.

All sites associated with the Abrahamic prophets have always been holy in Islam.
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MeisterEckhart wrote Today at 9:54am:
freediver wrote Today at 9:44am:
All of the Muslim "holy sites" in Israel are fairly recent historical inventions. Mostly Muslims trying to make a bit of money of the religious fervor.

The site of the al-Aqsa Mosque has been considered one of the holiest sites of Islam since Islam's founding.

All sites associated with the Abrahamic prophets have always been holy in Islam.


Built on the Second Temple.

The Hagia Sophia wasn't originally a mosque either. Muslims conquer and replace.


Israel is the result of Reconquista, like the reconquista of Spain, or  Greece or the Balkans. WHat particularly irks the Muslims is that it is a reconquista by the Jews who are the most odious of the infidels to them.  The Iberian terrirories or Greece and the balkans ,reconquered from the Muslims, are far larger and more popukous than Judea and Samaria but because they  were not taken back by the Jews, you hear a lot less agitation by the Muslims about them.

Needless to say, there as zero liberation movement by the palestinians while they were under Ottoman rule.





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Frank wrote Today at 10:18am:
MeisterEckhart wrote Today at 9:54am:
freediver wrote Today at 9:44am:
All of the Muslim "holy sites" in Israel are fairly recent historical inventions. Mostly Muslims trying to make a bit of money of the religious fervor.

The site of the al-Aqsa Mosque has been considered one of the holiest sites of Islam since Islam's founding.

All sites associated with the Abrahamic prophets have always been holy in Islam.


Built on the Second Temple.

The Hagia Sophia wasn't originally a mosque either. Muslims conquer and replace.


Israel is the result of Reconquista, like the reconquista of Spain, or  Greece or the Balkans. WHat particularly irks the Muslims is that it is a reconquista by the Jews who are the most odious of the infidels to them.  The Iberian terrirories or Greece and the balkans ,reconquered from the Muslims, are far larger and more popukous than Judea and Samaria but because they  were not taken back by the Jews, you hear a lot less agitation by the Muslims about them.

Needless to say, there as zero liberation movement by the palestinians while they were under Ottoman rule.

As are nearly all major Christian churches and cathedrals built on the sites of Roman temples, themselves built on the sacred sites of those they conquered...

The Spanish Reconquista also saw the exile, forced conversion, or execution of all Spanish Jews... Of course it did... when did Europeans ever pass up a chance to persecute or slaughter Jews?

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All of the Muslim "holy sites" in Israel are fairly recent historical inventions. Mostly Muslims trying to make a bit of money of the religious fervor.

The site of the al-Aqsa Mosque has been considered one of the holiest sites of Islam since Islam's founding.

All sites associated with the Abrahamic prophets have always been holy in Islam.


Built on the Second Temple.

The Hagia Sophia wasn't originally a mosque either. Muslims conquer and replace.

Israel is the result of Reconquista, like the reconquista of Spain, or  Greece or the Balkans. WHat particularly irks the Muslims is that it is a reconquista by the Jews who are the most odious of the infidels to them.  The Iberian terrirories or Greece and the balkans ,reconquered from the Muslims, are far larger and more popukous than Judea and Samaria but because they  were not taken back by the Jews, you hear a lot less agitation by the Muslims about them.


Your error: modern Israel's creation was facilitated by the UN, not by national conquest as per  "might is right",  eg, when David conquered Jerusalem from a Canaanite tribe in 1100BC.   

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The Ottomans weren't "infidels"....

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No never a country..... just a geographical location called Syria Palestina .. named such by the Romans to punish the Jews ... to disconnect/disassociate them from the land.

The kingdom/country was Israel & Judah.

And I have oft said that if there was really a country called Palestine & a people called Palestinians then Jews would also be Palestinians.

The region known as Israel & Judea was abolished around 150AD.

If even Jews once referred to themselves as Palestinian Jews, that indicates that even they acceded to the legitimacy of the region's name.

If Indonesia claimed that northern Australia was once part of the region occupied by Indonesian peoples nearly 2000 years ago, and now they want it back, would you agree?



They didn't & the relevance is?
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Needless to say, there as zero liberation movement by the palestinians while they were under Ottoman rule.

Why would there be? Their religious cultural pillar - Islam - and its political and economic systems were defended by the Caliphate against European Christian marauding armies.

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MeisterEckhart wrote Today at 9:54am:
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All of the Muslim "holy sites" in Israel are fairly recent historical inventions. Mostly Muslims trying to make a bit of money of the religious fervor.

The site of the al-Aqsa Mosque has been considered one of the holiest sites of Islam since Islam's founding.

All sites associated with the Abrahamic prophets have always been holy in Islam.


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1770682152
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Gnads wrote Today at 10:31am:
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No never a country..... just a geographical location called Syria Palestina .. named such by the Romans to punish the Jews ... to disconnect/disassociate them from the land.

The kingdom/country was Israel & Judah.

And I have oft said that if there was really a country called Palestine & a people called Palestinians then Jews would also be Palestinians.

The region known as Israel & Judea was abolished around 150AD.

If even Jews once referred to themselves as Palestinian Jews, that indicates that even they acceded to the legitimacy of the region's name.

If Indonesia claimed that northern Australia was once part of the region occupied by Indonesian peoples nearly 2000 years ago, and now they want it back, would you agree?



They didn't & the relevance is?

Highlighting your small-minded stupidity that was a feature of Australian culture once.

Of course you wouldn't accept sovereignty of Australian territory by a foreign power or people...

Even Jabotinsky respected Atabs enough to agree that their resistance to the Jewish demographic takeover of Palestine at the time is exactly what an honourable people should and would do.
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Arabia is for Arabs. Judea and Samaria are not.
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freediver wrote Today at 10:39am:
MeisterEckhart wrote Today at 9:54am:
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All of the Muslim "holy sites" in Israel are fairly recent historical inventions. Mostly Muslims trying to make a bit of money of the religious fervor.

The site of the al-Aqsa Mosque has been considered one of the holiest sites of Islam since Islam's founding.

All sites associated with the Abrahamic prophets have always been holy in Islam.


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1770682152

Mohammad didn't make any reference to Islam as a religion. Jesus didn't make any reference to Christianity as a religion.

Both advocated for a rededication to the laws of god as expounded by the prophets, whose legacies are shared and claimed by all three Abrahamic religions.

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Muslims located between Jerusalem and Mecca when praying turn  their a-holes on Jerusalem and al-Aqsa, which is sign of disrespect.
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Muslims located between Jerusalem and Mecca when praying turn  their a-holes on Jerusalem and al-Aqsa, which is sign of disrespect.

You point your arsehole to the south when taking a dump... disrespect for South Australia, Tasmania, Antarctica?
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The site of the al-Aqsa Mosque has been considered one of the holiest sites of Islam since Islam's founding.



Muslims located between Jerusalem and Mecca when praying turn  their a-holes on Jerusalem and al-Aqsa, which is sign of disrespect.

You point your arsehole to the south when taking a dump... disrespect for South Australia, Tasmania, Antarctica?


So Muslim prayer is taking a dump?  Grin
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Arabia is for Arabs. Judea and Samaria are not.

When was the last animal sacrifice in the temple? When was the last sovereign king of Judah? (to the nearest thousand years will do)
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Arabia is for Arabs. Judea and Samaria are not.

When was the last animal sacrifice in the temple? When was the last sovereign king of Judah? (to the nearest thousand years will do)


When did you scratch your itch last time?
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Good.
on target.
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chimera wrote Today at 11:38am:
Good.
on target.


More damage to your already damaged brain  Roll Eyes
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'Zedekiah, the last king of Judah (597–586 BC), was a puppet ruler installed by Nebuchadnezzar II after deporting King Jehoiachin.'

586

586!
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No, you haven't defined shithole: obviously S. Arabia insn't a poverty-benighted shithole.


No. It is a shithole sitting on a massive oil field. Did you know they recently allowed women to drive?



They are still living back in the 7th century.


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Islam originated in the early 7th century CE (c. 610–632 AD) in Arabia through the revelations of Prophet Muhammad, not the 15th century. The 15th century (roughly 1400–1499 AD) was a significant, later period marking the rise of the Ottoman, Safavid, and Mughal empires after the Mongol collapse.

Origin: Islam began in Mecca and Medina, with the Hijra (migration to Medina) in 622 CE marking the start of the Islamic calendar.


The 15th Century in Islam: This period (9th century AH) saw the "renaissance" of Shi'i Islam and the peak of the Ottoman Empire.


15th Century Hegira: Note that "15th century of the Hegira" refers to the era starting in 1980 AD, as the Islamic calendar is lunar and distinct from the Gregorian calendar.
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