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Reply #60 - Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:23pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:04pm:
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Reply #61 - Jan 22nd, 2026 at 7:50pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:16pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 5:21pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:18pm:
The non-USE of state lawenforcement for federal laws is long established and is not the same as sanctuary cities'.



Minneapolis has long maintained local rules and practices that limit cooperation with federal immigration enforcement—most notably a separation ordinance dating to 2003 and a Sanctuary City Task Force created in 2017—so many officials, federal agencies and news outlets describe it as a “sanctuary” jurisdiction.




So yeah, I AM arguing that there was no active obstruction and hindrance under O'Bama's three terms, there were no ICE watch vigilantes doing what is happening now on steroids.

This is a bit of a switcheroo from BLM to Gestapo. Some other destructive woke idiocy will come along soon and you will on board with that as well.



Do you not understand how time works?

Biden was President from 20 January 2021 to 20 January 2025. That means both the 2003 ordinance and the task force established from 2017 onwards were in effect under Biden. The 2003 ordinance was also in place throughout Obama's presidency.

In other words, you've just disproved your own attempt to justify Trump-era ICE breaking the law, defying the courts, and trampling the Constitution.

Obama, and especially Biden, operated under similar or identical local conditions, yet through targeted, lawful ICE actions, they deported more criminals than Trump. A vastly higher proportion of those deportations fell into that category, all without terrorising US citizens, ignoring court orders, or shredding constitutional limits.

Trump by comparison, both the statistics and the growing body of video evidence, now reinforced by court testimony, show that Trump's ICE is not targeting the "worst of the worst" at all. It is overwhelmingly targeting brown people, people with accents, and people who simply look foreign.

They are not prioritising serious criminals, and they are certainly not focused on, as you suddenly claim to care so deeply about, killers, rapists, and human traffickers. That talking point collapses the moment it's tested against the actual data and observable behaviour.

So how many Ls does it take before you stop, pause, and actually examine the beliefs you're defending, champ?



Take a breath.

there was no active obstruction and hindrance under O'Bama's three terms, there were no ICE watch vigilantes doing what is happening now on steroids.



Explain.



So now you're changing the goalposts from sanctuary cities to protesters?

Protesters who are out there recording the illegal conduct of ICE agents?

You're clutching at straws again. This always happens when you are duty bound to support the bullshit MAGA narratives that aren't supported by reality...



Sanctuary cities IS the point, girl.

ICE is going into sanctuary cities and Twatter and Farcebook and Instagram ligh up.

Being in the US is contrary to federal law that applies to the entire nation

ICE is created and tasked with enforcing federal immigration law.

State and local police are not required to do what ICE is created to do, ICE will enforce federal law.

BUT state and local politicians and law enforcement under their direction should not actively hinder and obstruct the enforcement of federal law by federal law enforcement. 

If you are not helping then get the **** outa the way. Federal law applies. Do not obstruct it, do not hinder it, do not encourage vigilanes to stand in its way.

Get out of the Union if you do not want federal law to apply in your state.



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Reply #62 - Jan 22nd, 2026 at 7:51pm
 
So they're not going after the rapists, killers and human traffickers anymore?

You might as well stop playing on a field since you keep changing the goal posts again and again and again...
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Reply #63 - Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:47pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 7:51pm:
So they're not going after the rapists, killers and human traffickers anymore?

You might as well stop playing on a field since you keep changing the goal posts again and again and again...



They are going after illegal aliens who shouldn't be in the ountry.

Among those there are killers and rapists that local police, under DEm 'sanctuary city' instructions, are hiding and shielding from ICE.

Vigilante mongs, also under Dem political directives, are also impeding ICE from carrying out its function. In such cases it sometimes takes force to get bints and bastards out of the way from law enforcement. The constitutional separation of state and federal powers that allow local police not to do the work of Federal law enforcement DOES NOT mean that citizens can pick and choose what laws they accept as being applicable and thus reject federal law because they didn''t vote for whoever is prez. (which is one of your moronic lines of 'argument' among a miriad of your moronic arguments).


Local police should be going after rapists and killers and if they are illegal aliens, they should be handing them over to the federal law enforcement officers.  Why don't they?? Because the Dems tell them not to, under the 'sanctuary cities' wheeze. The Dems, needless to say, gave no such instructions while O'bama was in power for three terms.

You must be a total transitioning delusional *uckwit from Menjin ( Cheesy Cheesy) to find any of this remarcable, confusing or objectionable.

Dial down on the hormones.



As for tinted people being 'targeted'.

I am sure there are Danish, Australian, Norwegian, Finnish [your blonde efniks here] illegal aliens in America. But the overwhelming, VAST, VAST majority of the 20 million+ illegal aliens are from tinted third world countries, pimarily Latin AMericans, but also Africans, Arabs, East Asians.  Racial profiling makes eminent sense when your target demographic is racially identifiable. You would be defrelict in your duties if you didn't. This  is so obvious as to hardly needing to be said. But in these woke, po-faced times, the saying of the obvious is construed to be 'offensive'.

There are screenings at airports across the globe because of tinted, weardy-beardy Muslims, NOT because of blonde, blue-eyed Scandis.
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Reply #64 - Yesterday at 7:17am
 

Latest development from the ICE Gestapo: they've kidnapped a 5-year-old boy.

Hopefully they won't shoot him in the face.

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Reply #65 - Yesterday at 9:16am
 
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 7:17am:
Latest development from the ICE Gestapo: they've kidnapped a 5-year-old boy.

Hopefully they won't shoot him in the face.



Tear-gassing a six-month-old baby, detaining multiple children from a school district, spraying detained peaceful protesters with pepper spray and watching parents, including US citizens, be hauled off from their own cars because they "didn't show their papers," leaving their children with no adult guardian...

Cruelty.

The aim of all of this isn't law enforcement, it's cruelty directed at people who didn't support Trump.

That's why the usual suspects are lining up behind this.

And it doesn't stop with ICE. People who say negative things about Trump or even Kash Patel are having the Secret Service and other federal agencies turn up at their homes, interrogating them over what they've posted online, not for death threats or threats of violence, just for being critical or failing to support Trump.

This is exactly what the First Amendment was created to prevent, and they're trampling it too.

But the bootlickers like Forrest will still line up to defend them, as always.
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Reply #66 - Yesterday at 9:57am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 9:16am:
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 7:17am:
Latest development from the ICE Gestapo: they've kidnapped a 5-year-old boy.

Hopefully they won't shoot him in the face.



Tear-gassing a six-month-old baby, detaining multiple children from a school district, spraying detained peaceful protesters with pepper spray and watching parents, including US citizens, be hauled off from their own cars because they "didn't show their papers," leaving their children with no adult guardian...

Cruelty.

The aim of all of this isn't law enforcement, it's cruelty directed at people who didn't support Trump.

That's why the usual suspects are lining up behind this.

And it doesn't stop with ICE. People who say negative things about Trump or even Kash Patel are having the Secret Service and other federal agencies turn up at their homes, interrogating them over what they've posted online, not for death threats or threats of violence, just for being critical or failing to support Trump.

This is exactly what the First Amendment was created to prevent, and they're trampling it too.

But the bootlickers like Forrest will still line up to defend them, as always.


Bingo!

And yes, Frank will defend it no matter what.

Here's the masked cowards kidnapping the 5-year-old boy.

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Reply #67 - Yesterday at 10:26am
 
I wonder which of the Killers, Rapists or Human Traffickers he fits in?

Last updates I saw was that he was detained with his father in Minneapolis, flown to a detention facility in Texas where they both remain.  Reports say the family were unable to get updates for over 24 hours.

His father has an active asylum claim, and he is a US citizen by birth.  The active asylum claim creates a pending immigration case, which allows them to remain in the US while the case is processed.

Due process and targeted enforcement could have avoided all of this, but that is not the aim of Trump's ICE.

They're both currently still locked up.

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Reply #68 - Yesterday at 10:31am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 10:26am:
I wonder which of the Killers, Rapists or Human Traffickers he fits in?

Last updates I saw was that he was detained with his father in Minneapolis, flown to a detention facility in Texas where they both remain.  Reports say the family were unable to get updates for over 24 hours.

His father has an active asylum claim, and he is a US citizen by birth.  The active asylum claim creates a pending immigration case, which allows them to remain in the US while the case is processed.

Due process and targeted enforcement could have avoided all of this, but that is not the aim of Trump's ICE.

They're both currently still locked up.

Edit: Moved conversation to here.



You'd prefer the boy to be separted from his father and put into foster care?

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Reply #69 - Yesterday at 10:33am
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:31am:
ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 10:26am:
I wonder which of the Killers, Rapists or Human Traffickers he fits in?

Last updates I saw was that he was detained with his father in Minneapolis, flown to a detention facility in Texas where they both remain.  Reports say the family were unable to get updates for over 24 hours.

His father has an active asylum claim, and he is a US citizen by birth.  The active asylum claim creates a pending immigration case, which allows them to remain in the US while the case is processed.

Due process and targeted enforcement could have avoided all of this, but that is not the aim of Trump's ICE.

They're both currently still locked up.

Edit: Moved conversation to here.



You'd prefer the boy to be separted from his father and put into foster care?



The father has an ACTIVE ASYLUM CASE. This means he cannot legally be detained or deported. He should not even be in detention while his case is being adjudicated! His son should be with him, not alone in Texas.
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Reply #70 - Yesterday at 10:36am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote Yesterday at 10:33am:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:31am:
ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 10:26am:
I wonder which of the Killers, Rapists or Human Traffickers he fits in?

Last updates I saw was that he was detained with his father in Minneapolis, flown to a detention facility in Texas where they both remain.  Reports say the family were unable to get updates for over 24 hours.

His father has an active asylum claim, and he is a US citizen by birth.  The active asylum claim creates a pending immigration case, which allows them to remain in the US while the case is processed.

Due process and targeted enforcement could have avoided all of this, but that is not the aim of Trump's ICE.

They're both currently still locked up.

Edit: Moved conversation to here.



You'd prefer the boy to be separted from his father and put into foster care?



The father has an ACTIVE ASYLUM CASE. This means he cannot legally be detained or deported. He should not even be in detention while his case is being adjudicated! His son should be with him, not alone in Texas.


Exactly.

ICE should follow the law.  If they comply, they will not die.
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Reply #71 - Yesterday at 10:37am
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:31am:
ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 10:26am:
I wonder which of the Killers, Rapists or Human Traffickers he fits in?

Last updates I saw was that he was detained with his father in Minneapolis, flown to a detention facility in Texas where they both remain.  Reports say the family were unable to get updates for over 24 hours.

His father has an active asylum claim, and he is a US citizen by birth.  The active asylum claim creates a pending immigration case, which allows them to remain in the US while the case is processed.

Due process and targeted enforcement could have avoided all of this, but that is not the aim of Trump's ICE.

They're both currently still locked up.

Edit: Moved conversation to here.



You'd prefer the boy to be separted from his father and put into foster care?



The father is a legal asylum seeker, going through the proper procedures.

He should never have been detained in the first place.

Now we can add 'kidnapping' to the list of crimes you condone.

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Reply #72 - Yesterday at 11:09am
 
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What exactly are you claiming is "constitutional"? You need to identify a specific action, not gesture vaguely at the concept.


Enforcing federal law.

ICE is created to enforce it. It is not for local police to do so, fair enough. That's why we, too, have an Australian Federal Police.

But it is blatantly political obscurantism by Dem states, so called sanctuary states, to refuse cooperation. It is scandalous and would be unthinkable if a state premier here instructed state police to refuse cooperation with AFP and Border Force in identifying and detaining illegal immigrants and refused to provide details of illegal immigrant criminals.

But in the ridiculously over-lawyered US, this is ok.

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Reply #73 - Yesterday at 2:24pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 10:36am:
Armchair_Politician wrote Yesterday at 10:33am:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:31am:
ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 10:26am:
I wonder which of the Killers, Rapists or Human Traffickers he fits in?

Last updates I saw was that he was detained with his father in Minneapolis, flown to a detention facility in Texas where they both remain.  Reports say the family were unable to get updates for over 24 hours.

His father has an active asylum claim, and he is a US citizen by birth.  The active asylum claim creates a pending immigration case, which allows them to remain in the US while the case is processed.

Due process and targeted enforcement could have avoided all of this, but that is not the aim of Trump's ICE.

They're both currently still locked up.

Edit: Moved conversation to here.



You'd prefer the boy to be separted from his father and put into foster care?



The father has an ACTIVE ASYLUM CASE. This means he cannot legally be detained or deported. He should not even be in detention while his case is being adjudicated! His son should be with him, not alone in Texas.


Exactly.

ICE should follow the law.  If they comply, they will not die.


A detainee died recently at an ICE facility where he was being pinned down by multiple ICE agents with pressure on his neck and back that caused ruptures to arteries in his neck and eyelids. A coroner ruled he died as a result of blood loss and asphyxiation. Laughably, ICE is making a lame attempt to claim he died by suicide. What a sick joke!
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Reply #74 - Yesterday at 3:21pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote Yesterday at 2:24pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 10:36am:
Armchair_Politician wrote Yesterday at 10:33am:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:31am:
ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 10:26am:
I wonder which of the Killers, Rapists or Human Traffickers he fits in?

Last updates I saw was that he was detained with his father in Minneapolis, flown to a detention facility in Texas where they both remain.  Reports say the family were unable to get updates for over 24 hours.

His father has an active asylum claim, and he is a US citizen by birth.  The active asylum claim creates a pending immigration case, which allows them to remain in the US while the case is processed.

Due process and targeted enforcement could have avoided all of this, but that is not the aim of Trump's ICE.

They're both currently still locked up.

Edit: Moved conversation to here.



You'd prefer the boy to be separted from his father and put into foster care?



The father has an ACTIVE ASYLUM CASE. This means he cannot legally be detained or deported. He should not even be in detention while his case is being adjudicated! His son should be with him, not alone in Texas.


Exactly.

ICE should follow the law.  If they comply, they will not die.


A detainee died recently at an ICE facility where he was being pinned down by multiple ICE agents with pressure on his neck and back that caused ruptures to arteries in his neck and eyelids. A coroner ruled he died as a result of blood loss and asphyxiation. Laughably, ICE is making a lame attempt to claim he died by suicide. What a sick joke!


The ICE Gestapo have killed at least four detainees this year, and last year they murdered 32.

The really sad thing is, it's gonna get so much worse.

Trump will have his Noem Nazis executing innocent people in the streets by the dozens before the end of the year.

And Frank will continue to defend it and jerk off to the pictures.

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