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Re: Be careful what you wish for Pauline and the LNP !
Reply #30 - Jan 17^th, 2026 at 8:52pm

Frank wrote on Jan 17^th, 2026 at 7:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2026 at 3:41pm:

You never visited Canberra during the Balkan Wars, did you, Soren? I lived around the corner from the Serbian Club. They had a healthy arrangement with the Croat Club. One week bus loads of Australian Serbs would turn up and camp out to protest in front of Parliament House, the next, the Croats would turn up to do their protesting. They never met, funny that, hey? They were quite civilised about it, far more than a Racist Xenophobe like you'd like them to be. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Can't say the same about the Muslims.

What a Racist WOFTAM you are, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #31 - Jan 17^th, 2026 at 9:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2026 at 8:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 17^th, 2026 at 7:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2026 at 3:41pm:

You never visited Canberra during the Balkan Wars, did you, Soren? I lived around the corner from the Serbian Club. They had a healthy arrangement with the Croat Club. One week bus loads of Australian Serbs would turn up and camp out to protest in front of Parliament House, the next, the Croats would turn up to do their protesting. They never met, funny that, hey? They were quite civilised about it, far more than a Racist Xenophobe like you'd like them to be. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Can't say the same about the Muslims.

What a Racist WOFTAM you are, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yawn, cockwomble,
Muslims are not a race just as Christians aren't. Not even Jews.

Why ARE such a low rent idiot, with all your 'education' and doctor of divinity?

It can't be you strokes, you were just as stupid before you had them.

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Reply #32 - Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:29am

Frank wrote on Jan 17^th, 2026 at 3:17pm:

Why aren't Russian businesses, churches, schools vandalised if 'global events' matter? Why weren't Palsstinian schools and businesses targeted after 7 October?

Because, as Guterres himself noted, Oct 7th didn't happen in a vacuum, and most fair-minded people want a Palestinian state NOW (not tomorrow...).

Whreas Russian invasion of Ukraine doesn't have the same decades long oppression of a people which has exercised world opinion since 1948.

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Why is it OK to target Jews in Australia for what Is happening overseas?

Not OK, but it happens because of the continuing oppression of Palestinians by the Jewish state of Israel, and a large Muslim population in Oz.

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Was it OK when Serbs and Croarots were at teacher's throats here because of what was happening in Yugoslavia? Why weren't Iraqis targeted when Iraa occupied Kuwait?

Those population are much smaller in Oz than the Muslim population which has an 80 year grievance with the Jewish state.

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And why aren't all, the self-destruction righteous intifada liberators targeting Iranian businesses and schools?

Who in Oz knows where to find Iranian business and schools? In any case, Muslims and Aussies don't have a long-term grievance with Iran, and the Iranian people themselves are divided, re fundamentalist Islam.

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btw, did you draw any conclusions from Musk's statement re money, which you posted in the MMT thread?

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Reply #33 - Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:36am

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Not OK, but it happens because of the continuing oppression of Palestinians by the Jewish state of Israel

The people of Gaza are not oppressed. They voted for more war with Israel. Their leaders followed through. They got what they asked for. Being a loser and a victim of your own aggression is not the same thing as being oppressed. It might look the same, but the solution is completely different.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 15235 Gender:	Re: Be careful what you wish for Pauline and the LNP ! Reply #34 - Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:42am Frank wrote on Jan 17^th, 2026 at 9:03pm: Muslims are not a race just as Christians aren't. Not even Jews. Not even Jews? (google) In essence, Jewish identity is complex and multifaceted, existing as a unique blend of peoplehood and faith, not strictly one or the other.
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Reply #35 - Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:54am

freediver wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:36am:

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Not OK, but it happens because of the continuing oppression of Palestinians by the Jewish state of Israel

The people of Gaza are not oppressed.

Breathtakingly ignorant statement: Gaza has been known as "the world's largest open-air prison" for ages.

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They voted for more war with Israel.

...after the ongoing failure of the world (via the UN) to create the Palestinian state.

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Their leaders followed through. They got what they asked for.

Ordinary Gazans haven't been able to vote for their leaders for ages, and most Gazans certainly didn't know about the Oct 7th attack before it happened.

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Being a loser and a victim of your own aggression is not the same thing as being oppressed. It might look the same, but the solution is completely different.

It neither looks the same, nor is it the same.

The solution to oppression is its removal.

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Re: Be careful what you wish for Pauline and the LNP !
Reply #36 - Jan 18^th, 2026 at 12:58pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:36am:

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Not OK, but it happens because of the continuing oppression of Palestinians by the Jewish state of Israel

The people of Gaza are not oppressed.

Breathtakingly ignorant statement: Gaza has been known as "the world's largest open-air prison" for ages.

Call it what you want. Hamas are the prison masters, not Israel.

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Ordinary Gazans haven't been able to vote for their leaders for ages, and most Gazans certainly didn't know about the Oct 7th attack before it happened.

But when they do, they vote for war. And when they are polled, they still support that decision. Obviously they are not going to hold a national referendum before invading Israel to take hostages, but that does not mean Hamas does it without the support of the people.

That's why the situation is so hopeless, because the choice is theirs, and they choose war, again and again. No matter how insane it is. That is why it is so easy to blame Israel, because it is hard to imagine anyone being so insane that they repeatedly bring that on themselves. But that is the reality. They do not lie when they say they choose death. It is not the rhetoric of the oppressed yearning for freedom and democracy. It is the rhetoric of the insane choosing insanity.

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Reply #37 - Jan 18^th, 2026 at 1:10pm

freediver wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 12:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:36am:

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Not OK, but it happens because of the continuing oppression of Palestinians by the Jewish state of Israel

The people of Gaza are not oppressed.

Breathtakingly ignorant statement: Gaza has been known as "the world's largest open-air prison" for ages.

Call it what you want. Hamas are the prison masters, not Israel.

Sure could have fooled most people, FD. It was Israel who punished the Gazans for voting in their HAMAS leadership which the Israelis helped create. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Be careful what you wish for Pauline and the LNP !
Reply #38 - Jan 18^th, 2026 at 1:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2026 at 2:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 17^th, 2026 at 12:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2026 at 12:45pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, another Islamist interpretation of Islamic teachings. Another Islamist disciple. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Dear Brian DD,
do you deny that Islamic hate preachers encourage the killing of Jews
using their religious texts?

No, they do not use the Koran to encourage the killing of anybody, Bobby. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You should read more of Yadda's posts -
I know they're a bit long - but still. Roll Eyes

Read here:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1766227271

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Reply #39 - Jan 18^th, 2026 at 1:44pm

freediver wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 12:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:36am:

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Not OK, but it happens because of the continuing oppression of Palestinians by the Jewish state of Israel

The people of Gaza are not oppressed.

Breathtakingly ignorant statement: Gaza has been known as "the world's largest open-air prison" for ages.

Call it what you want. Hamas are the prison masters, not Israel.

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Ordinary Gazans haven't been able to vote for their leaders for ages, and most Gazans certainly didn't know about the Oct 7th attack before it happened.

But when they do, they vote for war. And when they are polled, they still support that decision. Obviously they are not going to hold a national referendum before invading Israel to take hostages, but that does not mean Hamas does it without the support of the people.

That's why the situation is so hopeless, because the choice is theirs, and they choose war, again and again. No matter how insane it is. That is why it is so easy to blame Israel, because it is hard to imagine anyone being so insane that they repeatedly bring that on themselves. But that is the reality. They do not lie when they say they choose death. It is not the rhetoric of the oppressed yearning for freedom and democracy. It is the rhetoric of the insane choosing insanity.

" It is not the rhetoric of the oppressed yearning for freedom and democracy. It is the rhetoric of the insane choosing insanity."

Ok - for the sake of the argument - I will agree with that last statement, indeed religious fundamentalists - "warriors of 'god'" - ARE insane.

But the insane in the proposed entire Palestinian state are mostly among the leaders of Gaza. Oh - and the WB settlers claiming their "Promised Land"....

Whereas non-fundamentalist Palestinians who want freedom from the Israeli yoke are not insane.

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Reply #40 - Jan 18^th, 2026 at 1:58pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 1:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 12:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:54am:

freediver wrote on Jan 18^th, 2026 at 10:36am:

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Not OK, but it happens because of the continuing oppression of Palestinians by the Jewish state of Israel

The people of Gaza are not oppressed.

Breathtakingly ignorant statement: Gaza has been known as "the world's largest open-air prison" for ages.

Call it what you want. Hamas are the prison masters, not Israel.

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Ordinary Gazans haven't been able to vote for their leaders for ages, and most Gazans certainly didn't know about the Oct 7th attack before it happened.

But when they do, they vote for war. And when they are polled, they still support that decision. Obviously they are not going to hold a national referendum before invading Israel to take hostages, but that does not mean Hamas does it without the support of the people.

That's why the situation is so hopeless, because the choice is theirs, and they choose war, again and again. No matter how insane it is. That is why it is so easy to blame Israel, because it is hard to imagine anyone being so insane that they repeatedly bring that on themselves. But that is the reality. They do not lie when they say they choose death. It is not the rhetoric of the oppressed yearning for freedom and democracy. It is the rhetoric of the insane choosing insanity.

" It is not the rhetoric of the oppressed yearning for freedom and democracy. It is the rhetoric of the insane choosing insanity."

Ok - for the sake of the argument - I will agree with that last statement, indeed religious fundamentalists - "warriors of 'god'" - ARE insane.

But the insane in the proposed entire Palestinian state are mostly among the leaders of Gaza. Oh - and the WB settlers claiming their "Promised Land"....

Whereas non-fundamentalist Palestinians who want freedom from the Israeli yoke are not insane.

They all want freedom from the "Israeli yoke" so they can go in and slaughter Jews.

You try to make a distinction between the Gaza leadership and the Gaza people. But the reality is that you cannot separate them. The Gaza leadership is there because the people support it. They voted them in, and polls taken since consistently show ongoing support. You could kill off the entire Hamas leadership today, and tomorrow there would be a new leadership. Maybe with a different name and a different slogan. But otherwise identical.

The only time the Palestinian people have rejected their leadership is when their leadership pursued peace with Israel.

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