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Anti-wacism laws
Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:36pm
 
Suck on this one, leftards.

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A draft of Labor's new hate speech bill, seen by the ABC, creates a new federal offence making it illegal to publicly promote or incite racial hatred where the conduct would cause a reasonable person to feel intimidated, harassed or fear violence.

But it includes a narrow defence where the speech, writing or other form of public gesture is solely quoting religious texts for teaching or discussion.

What's next?
Parliament has been recalled to sit for two days next week to debate the wideranging bill, which also includes changes to gun laws proposed in the wake of the Bondi attack.


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Maximum penalties of up to five years imprisonment apply, with higher sentences available where offences are aggravated.

This could include where a religious official or preacher is involved, or where children are targeted.


You should be okay, Brian. You're a doctor of divinity, no?

I don't think the old boy's going to be too happy.

Better use up your Paki Bastards before next week, dear boy. A five year sentence is a guaranteed deportation.

You'd better keep an eye on things, Freediver. We wouldn't want to see you do hard time, dear.

Freeeeedom, innit.
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Reply #1 - Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:41pm
 

Political party disbanded:
the end of the White Australia Party:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-01-13/neo-nazi-group-national-socialist-network...


This is what happened in Nazi Germany -
Hitler made certain political parties illegal and
then needed a concentration camp - Dachau -
to house all the prisoners.
China followed a similar plan after
the Tiananmen square massacre.
We are in dangerous times -
our democracy is failing.
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Reply #2 - Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:53pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:41pm:
Political party disbanded:
the end of the White Australia Party:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-01-13/neo-nazi-group-national-socialist-network...


This is what happened in Nazi Germany -
Hitler made certain political parties illegal and
then needed a concentration camp - Dachau -
to house all the prisoners.
China followed a similar plan after
the Tiananmen square massacre.
We are in dangerous times -
our democracy is failing.


That's okay, Bobby. They've all joined the Sustainability Party instead.

Freeeeedom, innit.
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Reply #3 - Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:57pm
 
Dr Bobi wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:53pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1768293380/1#1 date=1768293668]


That's okay, Bobby. They've all joined the Sustainability Party instead.

Freeeeedom, innit.



They only wanted to reduce the sky high immigration levels.    Roll Eyes
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John Curtin was Australia's 14th Prime Minister from
October 1941 to July 1945 - Labor Party.

Prime Minister John Curtin, while an international socialist opposing racial hatred, publicly defended Australia's "White Australia policy" during World War II, stating Australia, established by British people, would remain a white nation, fearing foreign aggression, though he later showed concern about its impact on allies like the Chinese, hinting at potential evolution. Curtin navigated tensions between his anti-racist ideals and national policy, recognizing the policy as a deeply ingrained national standard, but also acknowledging the need for goodwill with non-white nations, setting the stage for its eventual dismantling after his time.
Curtin's Stance During WWII
Public Defense: In December 1941, facing the threat from Japan, Curtin declared Australia would keep its "White Australia" standard, asserting it was a matter for Australians, not forced by invaders.
Racial Identity: He articulated a vision of Australia as a "white island in a vast coloured ocean," emphasizing its British heritage and racial distinctiveness for survival, a common sentiment of the era.
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Reply #5 - Jan 13th, 2026 at 9:59pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:57pm:
Dr Bobi wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:53pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1768293380/1#1 date=1768293668]


That's okay, Bobby. They've all joined the Sustainability Party instead.

Freeeeedom, innit.



They only wanted to reduce the sky high immigration levels.    Roll Eyes


WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE !!!
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Reply #6 - Jan 13th, 2026 at 10:09pm
 
Dr Bobi wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 9:59pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:57pm:
Dr Bobi wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:53pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1768293380/1#1 date=1768293668]


That's okay, Bobby. They've all joined the Sustainability Party instead.

Freeeeedom, innit.



They only wanted to reduce the sky high immigration levels.    Roll Eyes


WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE !!!



And John Curtin - Labor party - agrees with you.
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Reply #7 - Jan 13th, 2026 at 10:51pm
 
"But it includes a narrow defence where the speech, writing or other form of public gesture is solely quoting religious texts for teaching or discussion. "

Wait a minute..... that's clear 'wriggle room' for the rabid Musso preacher ... UNLESS the courts find strictly that it must be a direct quote and no ad lib ...

God said - go forth and multiply - he didn't say go forth and multiply your enemy dead ... but one man's ham sandwich is another man's halal poison, no?  The Quranites say that their verses of violence only apply when defending self etc .... but when you are as paranoid as any feminist it's an everyday thing to feel 'under attack' for being a pack of arseholes... and tus leap to 'defence' - it is the nature of the calling (being an arsehole). 

So you must resolve who is the aggressor and who the defender - and our 'governments' are not helping by discussing the mythical 'Islamophobia' in isolation, even putting out tomes of 'report', without discussing the very real impacts of Islamic Addiction and Islamic Derangement Syndrome.

Without a balanced review of all these things, there is zero possibility of any real resolution to the very real problems of Islamic Addiction in the West, andall that will happen is that those beset by Islamic Derangement Syndrome will be encouraged by lack of action to control their group's verbal excesses (Islamic Assertiveness), while further encouragement will be given to those by seeing others dragged before the courts.

Clearly this approach by government is not good enough... and ALL hate speech must be outlawed.

This bloke is a Suri....

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Reply #8 - Jan 13th, 2026 at 11:45pm
 
Would this be hate speech?
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Reply #9 - Jan 14th, 2026 at 6:33am
 
Dr Bobi wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:36pm:
Suck on this one, leftards.

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A draft of Labor's new hate speech bill, seen by the ABC, creates a new federal offence making it illegal to publicly promote or incite racial hatred where the conduct would cause a reasonable person to feel intimidated, harassed or fear violence.

But it includes a narrow defence where the speech, writing or other form of public gesture is solely quoting religious texts for teaching or discussion.

What's next?
Parliament has been recalled to sit for two days next week to debate the wideranging bill, which also includes changes to gun laws proposed in the wake of the Bondi attack.


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Maximum penalties of up to five years imprisonment apply, with higher sentences available where offences are aggravated.

This could include where a religious official or preacher is involved, or where children are targeted.


You should be okay, Brian. You're a doctor of divinity, no?

I don't think the old boy's going to be too happy.

Better use up your Paki Bastards before next week, dear boy. A five year sentence is a guaranteed deportation.

You'd better keep an eye on things, Freediver. We wouldn't want to see you do hard time, dear.

Freeeeedom, innit.

Do you feel intimidated, harassed and fear violence, son of Lahore?

Is it the 'paki' or the 'bastad' that does the work?


Would 'illegitimate Pakistani national' be better, worse or the same?





Alboweasel, like all political weasels, commisars and propagandists, wants to control speech.

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Reply #10 - Jan 14th, 2026 at 6:39am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 6:33am:
Alboweasel, like all political weasels, commisars and propagandists, wants to control speech.




Albo would put -
John Curtin Australia's 14th Prime Minister from
October 1941 to July 1945 - Labor Party,

in jail for 15 years for having a White Australia policy.

You can't make this sh!t up.
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Reply #11 - Jan 14th, 2026 at 7:12am
 
Dr Bobi wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:36pm:
Suck on this one, leftards.

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A draft of Labor's new hate speech bill, seen by the ABC, creates a new federal offence making it illegal to publicly promote or incite racial hatred where the conduct would cause a reasonable person to feel intimidated, harassed or fear violence.

But it includes a narrow defence where the speech, writing or other form of public gesture is solely quoting religious texts for teaching or discussion.

What's next?
Parliament has been recalled to sit for two days next week to debate the wideranging bill, which also includes changes to gun laws proposed in the wake of the Bondi attack.


Quote:
Maximum penalties of up to five years imprisonment apply, with higher sentences available where offences are aggravated.

This could include where a religious official or preacher is involved, or where children are targeted.


You should be okay, Brian. You're a doctor of divinity, no?

I don't think the old boy's going to be too happy.

Better use up your Paki Bastards before next week, dear boy. A five year sentence is a guaranteed deportation.

You'd better keep an eye on things, Freediver. We wouldn't want to see you do hard time, dear.

Freeeeedom, innit.



We can make a prediction that this new legislation’s first task will be the criminalisation of the cosplaying Victorian neo-Nazis who, whilst voicing disgusting ideas and idealising demonic historical figures, do not pose anywhere near the same level of risk as a global organised and well-funded jihadist movement.

From there, it is a minor inconvenience to falsely criminalise anyone who opposes mass migration.
How do we know?
Because government ministers and broadcasters already make this false conflation.



It is our duty as citizens to ask why the Prime Minister feels he can force through legislation before the Royal Commission has taken place.

What is the point of having an investigation into a terror event if you’re not going to wait for the findings before drafting new laws?

If the Coalition blindly supports this needlessly rushed and potentially dangerous legislation, they are fools.

Once again, our country is being gaslit into believing we are in an urgent existential crisis that necessitates rushed laws that have not being weighed in the court of public opinion. These mistakes were made during Covid to catastrophic effect and it will happen again.

Everyone wants to see terrorists brought to justice and our streets made safe.

The hard and uncompromising truth is that Islamic terror inside Australia is a failure of political leadership that goes back generations.

It was invited, cultivated, excused, ignored, and even validated by the activist and intellectual class as a valid struggle against colonialism.

It is not, in any way, a reaction to free speech, criticism, patriotism, or our Colonial history.



Over ten years ago, out-and-proud ISIS supporters marched straight through the centre of Sydney carrying signs that read, Behead the infidels!

Those people are still here. Living amongst us. Voting in our elections. Shopping with us. Working next to us. Hanging their flags in their bedrooms.

Any legislation put forward by the Prime Minister should be specific in its target: radical Islam.

If this government was serious about addressing the source of violence and terror, the wording of the bill and the way in which it has been publicly described, would have no trouble restricting itself to the ideological culprit of the Bondi incident.

Middle Eastern nations do this all the time. They have no problem discussing radical Islam as a security threat and they do not dress up their laws with vague references to hate.
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Reply #12 - Jan 14th, 2026 at 7:32am
 
If the Prime Minister and his government are not forced to keep this legislation focused on radical Islam, it will be weaponised against criticism of Islam.

Already, we are in very grave danger of no longer being able to defend our culture with words. This is meant to be our inheritance of the Enlightenment.

We know this, because the de facto blasphemy laws of Islamophobia have been floating around the conversation here and abroad.

If we wish to remain the free nation of Australia, we cannot allow our anger and distress over Bondi to empower this government to branch into a tyrannical era.

This is about Islamic terror, Mr Prime Minister.





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Reply #13 - Jan 14th, 2026 at 7:47am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 6:33am:
Alboweasel, like all political weasels, commisars and propagandists, wants to control speech.


I am reading Richard Fidler's book on the history of Prague and he mention's Vaclav Havel's open letter to the General Secretary of the communist party in the 1970s.



“If every day someone takes order in silence from an incompetent superior, if every day he solemnly performs ritual acts which he privately finds ridiculous, if he unhesitatingly gives answers to questionnaires which are contrary to his real opinions and is prepared to deny himself in public, if he sees no difficulty in feigning sympathy or even affection where, in fact, he feels only indifference or aversion, it still does not mean that he has entirely lost the use of one of the basic human senses; the sense of dignity.

“On the contrary: even if they never speak of it, people have a very acute appreciation of the price they have paid for outward peace and quiet: the permanent humiliation of their human dignity. The less direct resistance they put up to it––comforting themselves by driving it from their mind and deceiving themselves with the thought that it is of no account, or else simply gritting their teeth––the deeper the experience etches itself into their emotional memory. The man who resists humiliation can quickly forget it, but the man who can long tolerate it must long remember it. In actual fact, then, nothing remains forgotten. All the fear one has endured, the dissimulation one has been forced into, all the painful and degrading buffoonery and, worst of all perhaps, the feeling of having displayed one’s cowardice––all this settles and accumulates somewhere n the bottom of our social consciousness, quietly fermenting.

“Clearly, this is no healthy situation. Left untreated, the abscesses suppurate; the pus cannot escape from the body and the malady spreads throughout the organism. The natural human emotion . . . is gradually deformed into a sick cramp, into a toxic substance not unlike the carbon monoxide produced from incomplete combustion.

No wonder, then, that when the crust cracks and the lava of life rolls out, there appear not only well-considered attempts to rectify old wrongs, not only searchings for truth and for reforms matching life’s needs, but also symptoms of bilious hatred, vengeful wrath, and a feverish desire for immediate compensation for all the the degradation endured.”
https://havelcenter.org/2015/05/04/letter-to-dr-husak/



The Second Amendment in America is the essence of free speech absolutism.

Free speech absolutists believe that in order for a nation to be considered autonomous, the people should be able to express themselves freely about matters related to self-governance without any limitations being placed on speech by governments or the state.



That's what Albaweasel and parliament should enable, not more 'hate speech' laws and thought control.


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Reply #14 - Jan 14th, 2026 at 7:55am
 
The proposed laws are undemocratic, unconstitutional and so vague that they could easily be used to unjustly silence legitimate criticism of government policy.

I can not support these laws.

We do not need new laws like this to defeat the radical Islamist extremism that have killed Australians. [highlight]We already have laws against inciting violence. They should be enforced.

https://x.com/mattjcan/status/2011047022963642447

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Reply #15 - Jan 14th, 2026 at 10:49am
 
Dr Bobi wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:36pm:
Suck on this one, leftards.

Quote:
In short:
A draft of Labor's new hate speech bill, seen by the ABC, creates a new federal offence making it illegal to publicly promote or incite racial hatred where the conduct would cause a reasonable person to feel intimidated, harassed or fear violence.

But it includes a narrow defence where the speech, writing or other form of public gesture is solely quoting religious texts for teaching or discussion.

What's next?
Parliament has been recalled to sit for two days next week to debate the wideranging bill, which also includes changes to gun laws proposed in the wake of the Bondi attack.


Quote:
Maximum penalties of up to five years imprisonment apply, with higher sentences available where offences are aggravated.

This could include where a religious official or preacher is involved, or where children are targeted.


You should be okay, Brian. You're a doctor of divinity, no?

I don't think the old boy's going to be too happy.

Better use up your Paki Bastards before next week, dear boy. A five year sentence is a guaranteed deportation.

You'd better keep an eye on things, Freediver. We wouldn't want to see you do hard time, dear.

Freeeeedom, innit.


Islam is not a race.

And this action by the Govt is not dealing with the real issues - which have nothing to do gun laws or anti-wacism.

Your problem is that most Pakis are muslims.
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Reply #16 - Jan 14th, 2026 at 11:27am
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 10:49am:
Dr Bobi wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:36pm:
Suck on this one, leftards.

Quote:
In short:
A draft of Labor's new hate speech bill, seen by the ABC, creates a new federal offence making it illegal to publicly promote or incite racial hatred where the conduct would cause a reasonable person to feel intimidated, harassed or fear violence.

But it includes a narrow defence where the speech, writing or other form of public gesture is solely quoting religious texts for teaching or discussion.

What's next?
Parliament has been recalled to sit for two days next week to debate the wideranging bill, which also includes changes to gun laws proposed in the wake of the Bondi attack.


Quote:
Maximum penalties of up to five years imprisonment apply, with higher sentences available where offences are aggravated.

This could include where a religious official or preacher is involved, or where children are targeted.


You should be okay, Brian. You're a doctor of divinity, no?

I don't think the old boy's going to be too happy.

Better use up your Paki Bastards before next week, dear boy. A five year sentence is a guaranteed deportation.

You'd better keep an eye on things, Freediver. We wouldn't want to see you do hard time, dear.

Freeeeedom, innit.


Islam is not a race.


And neither is Christianity.

But is Judaism a race? 

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And this action by the Govt is not dealing with the real issues - which have nothing to do gun laws or anti-wacism.


The real issue is Islamic terrorism caused by the ongoing genocidal  colonization of Palestine Mandate land by 'Infidels"....


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But is Judaism a race?


Yes. Sort of as a consequence of it not being a proselytising religion. People are called Jews, and call themselves Jews, by virtue of birth, religion, or both.

Islam appears to have a similar concept, that if you are born to a Muslim father you are considered a Muslim. But it is also a proselytising religion, and it seems to be more of a legal point - so they can chop your head off if you abandon Islam. So all the raping they do alongside their pillaging helps to spread the ideology.
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freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 11:45am:
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Yes. Sort of as a consequence of it not being a proselytising religion. People are called Jews, and call themselves Jews, by virtue of birth, religion, or both.


Presumably Judaism didn't become a proselytising religion because Israel never expanded beyond its original borders, and after the brief Golden Age under Solomon, was gradually incorporated into a succession of international empires, until its extinction in 2nd century Roman time.

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Islam appears to have a similar concept, that if you are born to a Muslim father you are considered a Muslim. But it is also a proselytising religion, and it seems to be more of a legal point - so they can chop your head off if you abandon Islam. So all the raping they do alongside their pillaging helps to spread the ideology.


Your error: Islam, unlike Judaism,  conquered half the known world in the centuries  after its founding.
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Presumably Judaism didn't become a proselytising religion because Israel never expanded beyond its original borders


It's part of the ideology. Religions exist outside of national borders. Only Islam combines nationalism and religion into the same thing (AFAIK). Christianity for example isn't proselytising because it expanded beyond its original borders. It had no original borders. The religion was around for several centuries before any nation-state aligned itself with it.

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Your error: Islam, unlike Judaism,  conquered half the known world in the centuries  after its founding.


That is your error, not mine. Stop equating your inability to comprehend what I post, or me not phrasing it exactly how you would, with an error on my part. Or explain what statement you are attempting to contradict.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 11:27am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 10:49am:
Dr Bobi wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 6:36pm:
Suck on this one, leftards.

Quote:
In short:
A draft of Labor's new hate speech bill, seen by the ABC, creates a new federal offence making it illegal to publicly promote or incite racial hatred where the conduct would cause a reasonable person to feel intimidated, harassed or fear violence.

But it includes a narrow defence where the speech, writing or other form of public gesture is solely quoting religious texts for teaching or discussion.

What's next?
Parliament has been recalled to sit for two days next week to debate the wideranging bill, which also includes changes to gun laws proposed in the wake of the Bondi attack.


Quote:
Maximum penalties of up to five years imprisonment apply, with higher sentences available where offences are aggravated.

This could include where a religious official or preacher is involved, or where children are targeted.


You should be okay, Brian. You're a doctor of divinity, no?

I don't think the old boy's going to be too happy.

Better use up your Paki Bastards before next week, dear boy. A five year sentence is a guaranteed deportation.

You'd better keep an eye on things, Freediver. We wouldn't want to see you do hard time, dear.

Freeeeedom, innit.


Islam is not a race.


And neither is Christianity.

But is Judaism a race? 

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And this action by the Govt is not dealing with the real issues - which have nothing to do gun laws or anti-wacism.


The real issue is Islamic terrorism caused by the ongoing genocidal  colonization of Palestine Mandate land by 'Infidels"....




Did I say it was?

Is Judaism a race - NO. 

Incorrect the Islamic terrorism is caused by Islam & it's primitive hate filled doctrine.

Islamic Arab tribal people have no claim to what traditionally wasn't theirs in the first place.

They came with the Muslim invasion ..... the Jews were there first.

Romans invented the name Palestina.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 1:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 11:45am:
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But is Judaism a race?


Yes. Sort of as a consequence of it not being a proselytising religion. People are called Jews, and call themselves Jews, by virtue of birth, religion, or both.


Presumably Judaism didn't become a proselytising religion because Israel never expanded beyond its original borders, and after the brief Golden Age under Solomon, was gradually incorporated into a succession of international empires, until its extinction in 2nd century Roman time.

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Islam appears to have a similar concept, that if you are born to a Muslim father you are considered a Muslim. But it is also a proselytising religion, and it seems to be more of a legal point - so they can chop your head off if you abandon Islam. So all the raping they do alongside their pillaging helps to spread the ideology.


Your error: Islam, unlike Judaism,  conquered half the known world in the centuries  after its founding.


The known world to them. Roll Eyes


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Reply #22 - Jan 14th, 2026 at 2:40pm
 
Labor’s ‘Hate Speech CENSORSHIP Bill’ applies to "conduct" that occurred BEFORE its commencement.

Labor wants to charge people for past speech & social media posts although speech was legal at the time.

This is truly insane

A retrospective law (or retroactive law) is a statute that applies to events or actions that occurred before the law was enacted, changing their legal status, rights, or obligations after the fact, which is generally disfavored for criminal matters but common in areas like taxation to address past transactions or clarify existing rules, though it can create uncertainty. While protections prevent criminalizing past acts or increasing penalties, civil retrospective laws often aim to validate decisions or protect revenue, sometimes applying from the date of a government announcement rather than the actual enactment.


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Key Aspects of Retrospective Laws:

Definition: A law that changes the legal effect of past events, making something legal now that was illegal (or vice versa) or altering existing rights/obligations.
Criminal Law: Strong protections exist (like in Australia's Charter of Rights) to prevent people from being punished for acts that weren't crimes when committed, or from facing harsher penalties than existed at the time.
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Presumably Judaism didn't become a proselytising religion because Israel never expanded beyond its original borders


It's part of the ideology.


Yet in Genesis "God pledges to the patriarch Abraham and his descendants that they will become as numerous as the "sands on the seashore" and also "as the stars in the sky".

If not by proselytising or conquest of other nations, then how?

Note: Israel's conquests ended with the capture of Jerusalem c.1100BC.

Hence today there are <20,000 Jews in the world..... 

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Religions exist outside of national borders.


Yes, by proselytising and conquest.

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Only Islam combines nationalism and religion into the same thing (AFAIK). Christianity for example isn't proselytising because it expanded beyond its original borders. It had no original borders. The religion was around for several centuries before any nation-state aligned itself with it.


Several errors there: Christianity's reach expanded massively when Constantine adopted it as the Empire's official religion; successor states retained that religion after the Empire's  collapse.   And Christian missionaries were experts in 'proselytising' all around the world, in the days of Western European  supremacy.

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TGD Your error: Islam, unlike Judaism,  conquered half the known world in the centuries  after its founding.

That is your error, not mine. Stop equating your inability to comprehend what I post, or me not phrasing it exactly how you would, with an error on my part.


Your error - meaning your failure to analyze the points in contention correctly, as shown above -  is the problem.


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Or explain what statement you are attempting to contradict.


See above, for examples.
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Chinese Communism is evidently a proselysing reigion, too.



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Read about  the Krymchaks (Turkic-speaking, Rabbinic) and Karaites (Karaite Judaism).
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But is Judaism a race?


Read about  the Krymchaks (Turkic-speaking, Rabbinic) and Karaites (Karaite Judaism).



What is your point of contention?    Undecided
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tallowood wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 3:03pm:
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But is Judaism a race?


Read about  the Krymchaks (Turkic-speaking, Rabbinic) and Karaites (Karaite Judaism).



What is your point of contention?    Undecided


Historical education.
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 11:45pm:
Would this be hate speech?


You and Ozpolitic.com would get done under these new laws.
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 13th, 2026 at 11:45pm:
Would this be hate speech?


You and Ozpolitic.com would get done under these new laws.



Yes - if you said 10 years ago that there were too many Darkies here
you could be sent to a Gulag for 15 years of hard labor.

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Would this be hate speech?



Is that fatty real or is it AI?


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First Ulag (Administration of internment camps) was established in Port Jackson, now every state has one.

First Gulag (Main Administration of internment camps) will be in Australian Capital whatever it can be by time Feds take over from States.
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I wonder where they'll construct the Gulags?


First Ulag (Administration of internment camps) was established in Port Jackson, now every state has one.

First Gulag (Main Administration of internment camps) will be in Australian Capital whatever it can be by time Feds take over from States.



yep -

looks like Albo is our communist dictator, dear leader now.

Will the Senate stop him? -

we are now about to have a communist dictatorship if they don't.
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The bill is here:

984 Kbytes    136 pages long.

https://www.ag.gov.au/sites/default/files/2026-01/combatting-antisemitism-hate-a...


It shows retrospective law:

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EXPOSURE DRAFT

Conduct constituting a hate crime may have occurred before commencement .





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It shows retrospective law:


Will Lidia Thorpe go to goal for threat to "burn down Parliament House"?
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It shows retrospective law:


Will Lidia Thorpe go to goal for threat to "burn down Parliament House"?



You mean jail?

I hope so.   Grin
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tallowood wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 6:26pm:
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It shows retrospective law:


Will Lidia Thorpe go to goal for threat to "burn down Parliament House"?



You mean jail?

I hope so.   Grin


To lag out of gulag  Wink
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 6:33pm:
tallowood wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 6:26pm:
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It shows retrospective law:


Will Lidia Thorpe go to goal for threat to "burn down Parliament House"?



You mean jail?

I hope so.   Grin


To lag out of gulag  Wink



The Gulag Archipelago

Arkhipelag GULAG) is a three-volume nonfiction series written between 1958 and 1968 by Russian writer Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, a Soviet dissident. It was first published in 1973 by the Parisian publisher YMCA-Press,[1][2] and it was translated into English and French the following year. It explores a vision of life in what is often known as the Gulag, the Soviet labour camp system. Solzhenitsyn constructed his highly detailed narrative from various sources including reports, interviews, statements, diaries, legal documents, and his own experience as a Gulag prisoner.


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GULAG is abbreviation for Glavnoe Upravlenie Lagerey - Главное Управление Лагерей ru) - Main Administration of Camps (eng) CAMPS are penitentiary system including jails and labour camps with various security levels (minimum to maximum),

To lag out of gulag means from jailer to jailed, which happened often in in USSR in 1930s on pick of repressions.
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Jan 14, 2026

Sky News host Steve Price highlights how the United States Trump administration has given Labor a “slap” over its proposed hate speech laws.

“I note the Trump administration has given Labor a slap over the new laws themselves,” Mr Price said.

“Believing they could lead to deeply perverse outcomes.”


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The message:

you can go to prison for causing theoretical discomfort in a theoretical person.





The measure’s core novelty is what it removes: proof of harm.

It’s “immaterial,” the draft says, whether “the conduct actually results in hatred” or whether anyone “actually” feels intimidated or fears harassment.

The courts will instead consider what a hypothetical “reasonable” member of the targeted group would feel, even if no such person exists in the case.

Prosecutors, the explanatory note clarifies, “would not be required to prove” any real fear at all.

The message: you can go to prison for causing theoretical discomfort in a theoretical person.

Rowland’s bill doesn’t stop at the town square or the street corner. It explicitly defines a “public place” to include any form of electronic communication, including social media, blogs, livestreams, recordings, and content posted from private property if the public can see it.

In other words, the living room webcam and the backyard podcast are now public arenas. A joke, a meme, or an overheard rant could be weighed for its impact on an imaginary “reasonable person” who never existed.

That five-year penalty isn’t for causing harm; it’s for crossing a line no one can quite locate.
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Jan 14, 2026 

Australia is on the brink of new Anti Free Speech laws set to change the country for every!

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Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 8:25pm:
https://reclaimthenet.org/australias-new-hate-speech-bill-reckless-contradictory...

The message:

you can go to prison for causing theoretical discomfort in a theoretical person.





The measure’s core novelty is what it removes: proof of harm.

It’s “immaterial,” the draft says, whether “the conduct actually results in hatred” or whether anyone “actually” feels intimidated or fears harassment.

The courts will instead consider what a hypothetical “reasonable” member of the targeted group would feel, even if no such person exists in the case.

Prosecutors, the explanatory note clarifies, “would not be required to prove” any real fear at all.

The message: you can go to prison for causing theoretical discomfort in a theoretical person.

Rowland’s bill doesn’t stop at the town square or the street corner. It explicitly defines a “public place” to include any form of electronic communication, including social media, blogs, livestreams, recordings, and content posted from private property if the public can see it.

In other words, the living room webcam and the backyard podcast are now public arenas. A joke, a meme, or an overheard rant could be weighed for its impact on an imaginary “reasonable person” who never existed.

That five-year penalty isn’t for causing harm; it’s for crossing a line no one can quite locate.


Everyone on ozpolitics will end up in jail Cheesy LOL
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Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 9:47pm:
Everyone on ozpolitics will end up in jail Cheesy LOL




Albo would put -
John Curtin Australia's 14th Prime Minister from
October 1941 to July 1945 - Labor Party,
in jail for 15 years for having a White Australia policy.
You can't make this sh!t up.
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It shows retrospective law:


Will Lidia Thorpe go to goal for threat to "burn down Parliament House"?


that's how albo plans to get rid of his competition by putting them all in jail Cheesy LOL
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 10:00pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 9:47pm:
Everyone on ozpolitics will end up in jail Cheesy LOL




Albo would put -
John Curtin Australia's 14th Prime Minister from
October 1941 to July 1945 - Labor Party,
in jail for 15 years for having a White Australia policy.
You can't make this sh!t up.


Another Labor leader who would go to jail.

Labor aren't the same party they once were.
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Labor aren't the same party they once were.



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Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 10:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 10:00pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 9:47pm:
Everyone on ozpolitics will end up in jail Cheesy LOL




Albo would put -
John Curtin Australia's 14th Prime Minister from
October 1941 to July 1945 - Labor Party,
in jail for 15 years for having a White Australia policy.
You can't make this sh!t up.


Another Labor leader who would go to jail.

Labor aren't the same party they once were.



https://www.naa.gov.au/learn/learning-resources/learning-resource-themes/society...


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Former Labor Leader Mark Latham is another who would be in trouble

He said-
"We don't have multiculturalism we have a shitload of non english speaking ghettos"
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 10:22pm:
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Another Labor leader who would go to jail.

Labor aren't the same party they once were.



Albo has gone power mad.



His biggest problem is he thinks he and his cohorts are normal!!

Latham was right - we have a shipload of non-English speaking ghettoes - and under the new affirmative action - DEI* - they get affirmative action into jobs where their 'cultural norms' can get into full swing.... including in immigration..... scary thought, huh?



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Sussan Ley the Leader of the Opposition and leader of the Liberal Party on ABC 24 now -

she is not supporting the new legislation - good.
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Greens won't support Labor's sweeping hate law reform in current form

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In short:

The Greens will not support the government's sweeping changes to hate and gun laws without significant amendments, including the broadening of protections to all minority groups.

Opposition Leader Sussan Ley labelled the government's laws "unsalvageable" on Thursday, in a signal that the Liberal Party is preparing to vote against the bill.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australias-hate-speech-gun-law-reform...


Australia's hate speech, gun law reforms face free speech concerns

By Kirsty Needham
January 15, 20264:25 PM GMT+11Updated 24 mins ago


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Prime Minister Albanese calls for unity, more negotiation
Jewish council wants law passed despite shortcomings


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Hate speech and gun control laws proposed by the Australian government in the aftermath of the Bondi Beach mass shooting were criticised by conservative opposition and Greens parties on Thursday, putting in question whether they can pass.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has recalled Parliament from its summer break to sit next Monday and Tuesday with the hope that a combined bill that authorises a gun buyback and lowers the bar for hate speech prosecutions would be voted on.
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Some of the sillier examples of 'hate speech' presented  by those who are against the proposed Bill:

It will be illegal to say "Oz is the best country in the world".....obviously not 'hate speech', just mindless jingoism. [Pollies say it as well, to hide their failure to ensure affordable housing for all).

"Non-Christians will go to Hell"...well, at least Trumpy has admitted he's not likely to go to Heaven; it's not 'hate speech'. 

But the Bill is a misguided attempt to deal with Islamic terrorism  related to 
'Infidel'  Israel's occupation of Palestine; banning 'hate speech' won't fix that problem.

Meanwhile The Greens are saying "the Bill should protect everyone...."

Seems  we need a Bill defining Love Speech..... Undecided
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TGD,
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But the Bill is a misguided attempt to deal with Islamic terrorism


More than that -
Albo was going to try to take away all criticism of his crazy policies by
labelling people as racist etc and locking them up in Gulags for 15 years.
Example:
Anyone who doesn't like mass uncontrolled immigration
would have been locked up - that means millions of people in labor camps.

Albo is acting like a communist dictator -
his true colors have been revealed.
I think he's evil.
I hope he loses the next election and we never hear from him again.

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Those laws don't mention Islamic hate speech -

the word Islamic is not in the text -

like Basil Fawlty -  don't mention the war.    Roll Eyes




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Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 9:47pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2026 at 8:25pm:
https://reclaimthenet.org/australias-new-hate-speech-bill-reckless-contradictory...

The message:

you can go to prison for causing theoretical discomfort in a theoretical person.





The measure’s core novelty is what it removes: proof of harm.

It’s “immaterial,” the draft says, whether “the conduct actually results in hatred” or whether anyone “actually” feels intimidated or fears harassment.

The courts will instead consider what a hypothetical “reasonable” member of the targeted group would feel, even if no such person exists in the case.

Prosecutors, the explanatory note clarifies, “would not be required to prove” any real fear at all.

The message: you can go to prison for causing theoretical discomfort in a theoretical person.

Rowland’s bill doesn’t stop at the town square or the street corner. It explicitly defines a “public place” to include any form of electronic communication, including social media, blogs, livestreams, recordings, and content posted from private property if the public can see it.

In other words, the living room webcam and the backyard podcast are now public arenas. A joke, a meme, or an overheard rant could be weighed for its impact on an imaginary “reasonable person” who never existed.

That five-year penalty isn’t for causing harm; it’s for crossing a line no one can quite locate.


Everyone on ozpolitics will end up in jail Cheesy LOL


That means you too - Jew hating is on the agenda as well.
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Gnads wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:36am:
That means you too - Jew hating is on the agenda as well.


That's not me.

What about your anti-Islamic posts? -
off to the Gulag with you.

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Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:40am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:36am:
That means you too - Jew hating is on the agenda as well.


That's not me.

What about your anti-Islamic posts? -
off to the Gulag with you.




What about them?

I didn't exempt myself Booby. Roll Eyes
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Gnads wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:43am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:40am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:36am:
That means you too - Jew hating is on the agenda as well.


That's not me.

What about your anti-Islamic posts? -
off to the Gulag with you.




What about them?

I didn't exempt myself Booby. Roll Eyes



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Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:48am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:43am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:40am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:36am:
That means you too - Jew hating is on the agenda as well.


That's not me.

What about your anti-Islamic posts? -
off to the Gulag with you.




What about them?

I didn't exempt myself Booby. Roll Eyes



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Ok Booby  Tongue
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Albo doesn't mention Islamic extremism once in his 100s of pages  of new laws.  WTF?


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Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:48am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:43am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:40am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:36am:
That means you too - Jew hating is on the agenda as well.


That's not me.

What about your anti-Islamic posts? -
off to the Gulag with you.




What about them?

I didn't exempt myself Booby. Roll Eyes



Don't call me Booby - you can call me brave Bobby or sir Bobby.   Smiley

Don't talk by a booby, the.

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"Australia is about to pass Anti-Christian legislation"

which would criminalize Christianity



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It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?
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It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?

For example?

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Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?

For example?



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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 10:18am:
Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?

For example?



https://i0.wp.com/06880danwoog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/fred-phelps.jpg


Ah, memes by lying creep. Any memes showing gays being thrown off building and hanged from cranes by Muslims?


Anyway - who was asking you??

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ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?



Christians overseas have been arrested for silently praying.
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Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 11:26am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 10:18am:
Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?

For example?



https://i0.wp.com/06880danwoog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/fred-phelps.jpg


Ah, memes by lying creep. Any memes showing gays being thrown off building and hanged from cranes by Muslims?


Ok - a fundamentalist  Christian merely  saying 'God hates fags' is not likely to commit murder.

But the community needs to call out religious nonsense.

And while Jews aren't given to stoning adulterers to death these days - as prescribed in the OT, fundamentalist Jews support the illegal Israeli occupation of the WB, on the basis of their delusional 'Promised Land" mythology.

Quote:
Anyway - who was asking you??


Er Frank, this is an open debate forum...I hope you don't mind "the parrot" chiming in, trying to educate you...
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:13pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 11:26am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 10:18am:
Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?

For example?



https://i0.wp.com/06880danwoog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/fred-phelps.jpg


Ah, memes by lying creep. Any memes showing gays being thrown off building and hanged from cranes by Muslims?


Ok - a fundamentalist  Christian merely  saying 'God hates fags' is not likely to commit murder.

But the community needs to call out religious nonsense.

And while Jews aren't given to stoning adulterers to death these days - as prescribed in the OT, fundamentalist Jews support the illegal Israeli occupation of the WB, on the basis of their
delusional 'Promised Land" mythology.


Quote:
Anyway - who was asking you??


Er Frank, this is an open debate forum...I hope you don't mind "the parrot" chiming in, trying to educate you...



The Promised land is from the Nile to the Euphrates -

that's a lot more land to take - that's from Egypt to Iraq.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 1:36pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?



Christians overseas have been arrested for silently praying.


In the open?

Given the state of the world, why would anyone want to pray in the open, to be seen by everyone?
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 1:36pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?



Christians overseas have been arrested for silently praying.


In the open?

Given the state of the world, why would anyone want to pray in the open, to be seen by everyone?



It shows you how Christians are being persecuted by new laws.
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Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 11:26am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 10:18am:
Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?

For example?



https://i0.wp.com/06880danwoog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/fred-phelps.jpg


Ah, memes by lying creep. Any memes showing gays being thrown off building and hanged from cranes by Muslims?


Anyway - who was asking you??



Those aren't memes.

They're photos of a Christian using his religion as a vehicle for hate.

Here's another:

...

Here's a video of (clearly insane) Christians using their religion as a vehicle for hate, as well as using their vehicle to transport the messages of hate:



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Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:17pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:13pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 11:26am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 10:18am:
Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?

For example?



https://i0.wp.com/06880danwoog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/fred-phelps.jpg


Ah, memes by lying creep. Any memes showing gays being thrown off building and hanged from cranes by Muslims?


Ok - a fundamentalist  Christian merely  saying 'God hates fags' is not likely to commit murder.

But the community needs to call out religious nonsense.

And while Jews aren't given to stoning adulterers to death these days - as prescribed in the OT, fundamentalist Jews support the illegal Israeli occupation of the WB, on the basis of their
delusional 'Promised Land" mythology.


Quote:
Anyway - who was asking you??


Er Frank, this is an open debate forum...I hope you don't mind "the parrot" chiming in, trying to educate you...



The Promised land is from the Nile to the Euphrates -

that's a lot more land to take - that's from Egypt to Iraq. 


The "Promised Land" you defined above relates to 3000 year-old OT scripture;  whereas for fundamentalist Jews today it relates to Palestine Mandate land, as partitioned and defined in UN res 181. 



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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:17pm:
The Promised land is from the Nile to the Euphrates -

that's a lot more land to take - that's from Egypt to Iraq. 


The "Promised Land" you defined above relates to 3000 year-old OT scripture;  whereas for fundamentalist Jews today it relates to Palestine Mandate land, as partitioned and defined in UN res 181. 




Well - Israel has recently taken parts of Syria including its highest mountain,
they've taken over parts of Southern Lebanon, Gaza is finished,
the West bank continues to be annexed.
the promised land is being given by God to Israel - bit by bit.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:26pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 11:26am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 10:18am:
Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?

For example?



https://i0.wp.com/06880danwoog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/fred-phelps.jpg


Ah, memes by lying creep. Any memes showing gays being thrown off building and hanged from cranes by Muslims?


Anyway - who was asking you??



Those aren't memes.

They're photos of a Christian using his religion as a vehicle for hate.

Here's another:

[url]https://c8.alamy.com/comp/H5YCFF/chicago-usa-21st-october-2016-westbo
ro-baptist-church-protester-with-H5YCFF.jpg[/url]

Here's a video of (clearly insane) Christians using their religion as a vehicle for hate, as well as using their vehicle to transport the messages of hate:





Articulate character - he wants a better world, and he think's "God's Word" provides the answer ....but not on earth: "I am not of this world".

We have  a problem.....

At least he and the equally articulate (atheist)  Louis Theroux were able to hold a civil conversation.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:34pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:17pm:
The Promised land is from the Nile to the Euphrates -

that's a lot more land to take - that's from Egypt to Iraq. 


The "Promised Land" you defined above relates to 3000 year-old OT scripture;  whereas for fundamentalist Jews today it relates to Palestine Mandate land, as partitioned and defined in UN res 181. 




Well - Israel has recently taken parts of Syria including its highest mountain,
they've taken over parts of Southern Lebanon, Gaza is finished,
the West bank continues to be annexed.
the promised land is being given by God to Israel - bit by bit.


Hm.....so we rejectors of scriptural 'truth' are heading to Hell.....

But why do present day Jews ignore God's (excruciating) laws as set out in Deuteronomy?   
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:51pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:34pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:17pm:
The Promised land is from the Nile to the Euphrates -

that's a lot more land to take - that's from Egypt to Iraq. 


The "Promised Land" you defined above relates to 3000 year-old OT scripture;  whereas for fundamentalist Jews today it relates to Palestine Mandate land, as partitioned and defined in UN res 181. 




Well - Israel has recently taken parts of Syria including its highest mountain,
they've taken over parts of Southern Lebanon, Gaza is finished,
the West bank continues to be annexed.
the promised land is being given by God to Israel - bit by bit.


Hm.....so we rejectors of scriptural 'truth' are heading to Hell.....

But why do present day Jews ignore God's (excruciating) laws as set out in Deuteronomy?   



Because Jesus fulfilled the redemption of sins on the cross.
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https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/five-years-for-words-they-wont-define

17th Jan.  2026


On Tuesday 20 January 2026, the Australian Parliament will debate and vote on a 136-page bill with a 600-page explanatory memorandum. The government’s stated aim is passage through both houses in a single day. Most of the politicians voting on it will not have read it.

The bill is called the Combatting Antisemitism, Hate and Extremism Bill 2026. If enacted, it will criminalise speech that “promotes or incites hatred” or “disseminates ideas of superiority” on racial or ethnic grounds. The maximum penalty is five years imprisonment.
The three words in its title—antisemitism, hate, extremism—are not defined.


The pattern is now visible across the English-speaking world. The UK’s Online Safety Act. Canada’s Online Harms Act. Ireland’s Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill. The EU’s Digital Services Act. Each arrives with the same justification—protecting vulnerable groups from hatred—and each expands the state’s power to criminalise speech that was legal the year before.

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Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:55pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:51pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:34pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:17pm:
The Promised land is from the Nile to the Euphrates -

that's a lot more land to take - that's from Egypt to Iraq. 


The "Promised Land" you defined above relates to 3000 year-old OT scripture;  whereas for fundamentalist Jews today it relates to Palestine Mandate land, as partitioned and defined in UN res 181. 




Well - Israel has recently taken parts of Syria including its highest mountain,
they've taken over parts of Southern Lebanon, Gaza is finished,
the West bank continues to be annexed.
the promised land is being given by God to Israel - bit by bit.


Hm.....so we rejectors of scriptural 'truth' are heading to Hell.....

But why do present day Jews ignore God's (excruciating) laws as set out in Deuteronomy?   



Because Jesus fulfilled the redemption of sins on the cross.


er...Jews don't believe in Chri...oh never mind.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 5:20pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:55pm:
Because Jesus fulfilled the redemption of sins on the cross.


er...Jews don't believe in Chri...oh never mind.



Christ can even forgive Jews if they repent.
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Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 11:26am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 10:18am:
Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?

For example?



https://i0.wp.com/06880danwoog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/fred-phelps.jpg


Ah, memes by lying creep. Any memes showing gays being thrown off building and hanged from cranes by Muslims?


Anyway - who was asking you??



Those aren't memes.

They're photos of a Christian using his religion as a vehicle for hate.

Here's another:

[url]https://c8.alamy.com/comp/H5YCFF/chicago-usa-21st-october-2016-westbo
ro-baptist-church-protester-with-H5YCFF.jpg[/url]

Here's a video of (clearly insane) Christians using their religion as a vehicle for hate, as well as using their vehicle to transport the messages of hate:






And these plackards are equivalent, in your twisted, deformed, immoral 'mind', with Bondi, London, Manchester, Madrid, Paris, Berlin massacres, beheadings, bombings and stabbing in the name and for the gloru of Allah.

You are unspeakably stupid in a very evil, grinning, horribly repulsive way.

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Albo's new laws:


First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
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Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:57am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 7:47am:
It is often used as a vehicle for hate...

Why should it be exempt?

For example?



You don't get to ask me questions until you answer mine that you've been dodging for days now.
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Who defines what hate speech is?
Those people who you wamt LEAST to have define it.
It is always the Bbwiyawns, the teapots, peccarys, the dobbers and the snivelling crazies and idiots who are most eager to impose themselves and their norms on others and parade their virtues.

https://x.com/JohnAndersonAC/status/2013024128576655720
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2026 at 5:02pm:
"Australia is about to pass Anti-Christian legislation"

which would criminalize Christianity





She's right. There is no such thing as hate speech. It's simply speech, discussion, writings etc which a certain group don't like, usually because it shines the light on their criminal activities. Like discussing the numerous Israeli false flags ops, of which Bondi Beach is likely the latest.

And other criminal activities like corrupting the democratic process:

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