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Reply #15 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 6:47pm

whiteknight wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 6:02pm:

Hi Bobby one still has to ask the question. Even though its been asked before. Where's the money coming from?. Sad

Where all the Government's money comes from - Taxation. This has been explained several times to you. Why, do you refuse to understand it? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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whiteknight Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8969 melbourne Gender:	Re: AUKUS - The High Probability Of Failure Warning Reply #16 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 6:50pm Yes I understand that. Get ready for an increase in GST.
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Reply #17 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 6:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 6:47pm:

whiteknight wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 6:02pm:

Hi Bobby one still has to ask the question. Even though its been asked before. Where's the money coming from?. Sad

Where all the Government's money comes from - Taxation. This has been explained several times to you. Why, do you refuse to understand it? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Printing money is a form of taxation -
it destroys savings in the bank.

When you make money from interest in the bank it is taxed as income
but you are not allowed to offset it with inflation.

We are already over $1 trillion in Federal Govt. debt -
there is no way that ordinary taxes will pay for the subs.
The RBA will print the money.

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3358 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: AUKUS - The High Probability Of Failure Warning Reply #18 - Jan 13^th, 2026 at 11:13am Wow!! The good old steam submarines again, one of my favourite boats, funny thing is that most people think that they are nuclear powered but cannot explain how the nuclear power works. Talk about brainwashing.
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Reply #19 - Jan 13^th, 2026 at 11:53am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 13^th, 2026 at 11:13am:

Wow!! The good old steam submarines again,
one of my favourite boats, funny thing is that most people think that they are nuclear powered but cannot explain how the nuclear power works.
Talk about brainwashing.

The same way as a coal fired submarine would work. Grin

The same way a steam locomotive works or any other steam driven device.

The same way a coal or nuclear power station works.

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whiteknight Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8969 melbourne Gender:	Re: AUKUS - The High Probability Of Failure Warning Reply #20 - Jan 14^th, 2026 at 8:03am Seems like Paul Keating has got the right idea. What a shame they will not listen to him on this.
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Reply #21 - Jan 14^th, 2026 at 11:03am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 13^th, 2026 at 11:13am:

Wow!! The good old steam submarines again,
one of my favourite boats, funny thing is that most people think that they are nuclear powered but cannot explain how the nuclear power works.
Talk about brainwashing.

You and I have argued the semantics of this before, however I don't think a lot of the people here are able to understand the argument. All the see is nuclear - bad!

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Reply #22 - Jan 15^th, 2026 at 10:20am

Belgarion wrote on Jan 14^th, 2026 at 11:03am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 13^th, 2026 at 11:13am:

Wow!! The good old steam submarines again,
one of my favourite boats, funny thing is that most people think that they are nuclear powered but cannot explain how the nuclear power works.
Talk about brainwashing.

You and I have argued the semantics of this before, however I don't think a lot of the people here are able to understand the argument. All the see is nuclear - bad!

It’s not semantics it’s physics fact.
I think that it is a brilliant way to raise steam but that’s all it is. Nuclear power undoubtedly exists but it cannot power a submarine or any other ship, without steam in the equation the ship cannot move independently.
Therefore they are steam submarines.
Ships are classified by their means of propulsion not by their fuel; the RMS “Queen Mary” was called a steam ship not an oil ship and the pioneer SS “Great Western’’ was called a steamship not a coal ship.

To save money we could have bought some off Russia, which has a lot of them in mothballs.

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Reply #23 - Jan 15^th, 2026 at 10:28am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 15^th, 2026 at 10:20am:

Belgarion wrote on Jan 14^th, 2026 at 11:03am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 13^th, 2026 at 11:13am:

Wow!! The good old steam submarines again,
one of my favourite boats, funny thing is that most people think that they are nuclear powered but cannot explain how the nuclear power works.
Talk about brainwashing.

You and I have argued the semantics of this before, however I don't think a lot of the people here are able to understand the argument. All the see is nuclear - bad!

It’s not semantics it’s physics fact.
I think that it is a brilliant way to raise steam but that’s all it is. Nuclear power undoubtedly exists but it cannot power a submarine or any other ship, without steam in the equation the ship cannot move independently.
Therefore they are steam submarines.
Ships are classified by their means of propulsion not by their fuel; the RMS “Queen Mary” was called a steam ship not an oil ship and the pioneer SS “Great Western’’ was called a steamship not a coal ship.

To save money we could have bought some off Russia, which has a lot of them in mothballs.

Yet we refer to coal fired power stations....In general usage nuclear powered means a vessel that uses a nuclear reactor to heat the water to make the steam for propulsion. This is the definition used by the navies that operate these vessels and thus it is the correct one.

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Reply #24 - Jan 15^th, 2026 at 6:38pm

Belgarion wrote on Jan 15^th, 2026 at 10:28am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 15^th, 2026 at 10:20am:

Belgarion wrote on Jan 14^th, 2026 at 11:03am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 13^th, 2026 at 11:13am:

Wow!! The good old steam submarines again,
one of my favourite boats, funny thing is that most people think that they are nuclear powered but cannot explain how the nuclear power works.
Talk about brainwashing.

You and I have argued the semantics of this before, however I don't think a lot of the people here are able to understand the argument. All the see is nuclear - bad!

It’s not semantics it’s physics fact.
I think that it is a brilliant way to raise steam but that’s all it is. Nuclear power undoubtedly exists but it cannot power a submarine or any other ship, without steam in the equation the ship cannot move independently.
Therefore they are steam submarines.
Ships are classified by their means of propulsion not by their fuel; the RMS “Queen Mary” was called a steam ship not an oil ship and the pioneer SS “Great Western’’ was called a steamship not a coal ship.

To save money we could have bought some off Russia, which has a lot of them in mothballs.

Yet we refer to coal fired power stations....In general usage nuclear powered means a vessel that uses a nuclear reactor to heat the water to make the steam for propulsion. This is the definition used by the navies that operate these vessels and thus it is the correct one.

I beg to differ, it is a political definition, the whole world can be wrong, witness the herd instinct which saw the 3rd Millennium supposedly start on the first day of the last year of the old one.

Coal fired power stations is also a political description, once they were just power stations.

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