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Leroy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4629 Gender:	Democrats to free Maduro Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:14am Democrats are calling the military capture of Maduro illegal. If his capture was illegal then the courts cannot charge him, in American law for the prosecutor to bring charges they have to have clean hands, the court cannot accept an unlawful capture. The only option available to the demo is to return Maduro to Venezuela.
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Reply #1 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:49am

Leroy wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:14am:

Democrats are calling the military capture of Maduro illegal. If his capture was illegal then the courts cannot charge him, in American law for the prosecutor to bring charges they have to have clean hands, the court cannot accept an unlawful capture. The only option available to the demo is to return Maduro to Venezuela.

It is illegal. It is blatantly illegal because Trump is required as per the Constitution to seek approval from Congress before carrying out a raid like that and taking into custody a foreign leader - legitimate or not. So yeah, it is very illegal.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 15037 Armidale Gender:	Re: Democrats to free Maduro Reply #2 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 9:01am And yet, they captured David Hicks at Afghanistan airport, declared him a terrorist and jailed him, before Australia received him. He was jailed here for 9 months, illegally and Alexander Downer said the man 'was a fool'. (Fools get 9 months, or years if they can't appeal to the UN).
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Reply #3 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 9:31am

chimera wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 9:01am:

And yet, they captured David Hicks at Afghanistan airport, declared him a terrorist and jailed him, before Australia received him. He was jailed here for 9 months, illegally and Alexander Downer said the man 'was a fool'.

(Fools get 9 months, or years if they can't appeal to the UN).

Hicks was a fool, and a terrorist who trained with the worst terrorists. He deserved every second he spent in prison.

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Reply #4 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 9:54am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:49am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:14am:

Democrats are calling the military capture of Maduro illegal. If his capture was illegal then the courts cannot charge him, in American law for the prosecutor to bring charges they have to have clean hands, the court cannot accept an unlawful capture. The only option available to the demo is to return Maduro to Venezuela.

It is illegal. It is blatantly illegal because Trump is required as per the Constitution to seek approval from Congress before carrying out a raid like that and taking into custody a foreign leader - legitimate or not. So yeah, it is very illegal.

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"The United States is under attack from organized, criminal narco-terrorists in our hemisphere - and the president is responding in the DEFENSE of our country."

"So I would say that the United States and this president has made very clear his job is to protect the United States from threats against the United States...and THAT is what he's doing in this operation."

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Re: Democrats to free Maduro
Reply #5 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 9:57am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:49am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:14am:

Democrats are calling the military capture of Maduro illegal. If his capture was illegal then the courts cannot charge him, in American law for the prosecutor to bring charges they have to have clean hands, the court cannot accept an unlawful capture. The only option available to the demo is to return Maduro to Venezuela.

It is illegal. It is blatantly illegal because Trump is required as per the Constitution to seek approval from Congress before carrying out a raid like that and taking into custody a foreign leader - legitimate or not. So yeah, it is very illegal.

I can't find where in the constitution it says that it is illegal, could you provide the part of the constitution that makes it illegal.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 15037 Armidale Gender:	Re: Democrats to free Maduro Reply #6 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 9:58am Maduro is called 'narco terrorist' and had a torture jail. Hicks was a visitor and was exiting from Afghanistan with no evidence against him. .(Under the US law in Afghanistan !!!)
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7114 Gender:	Re: Democrats to free Maduro Reply #7 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 10:05am David Hicks was labelled an "unlawful enemy combatant" not terrorist.
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Reply #8 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 10:15am

Which makes it less legal as it means he wasn't in the army. Nor was he hostile to the US 'enemy' at the airport and wasn't 'combatant'.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7114 Gender:	Re: Democrats to free Maduro Reply #9 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 10:35am Right now Maduro is safer in US custody then in Venezuela.
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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 15037 Armidale Gender:	Re: Democrats to free Maduro Reply #10 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 10:39am Putin has faster missiles, (Mach 8+).
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7114 Gender:	Re: Democrats to free Maduro Reply #11 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 10:49am WOKE faggot ignorado scratches his anus faster then that
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Re: Democrats to free Maduro
Reply #12 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 12:11pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 9:57am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:49am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:14am:

Democrats are calling the military capture of Maduro illegal. If his capture was illegal then the courts cannot charge him, in American law for the prosecutor to bring charges they have to have clean hands, the court cannot accept an unlawful capture. The only option available to the demo is to return Maduro to Venezuela.

It is illegal. It is blatantly illegal because Trump is required as per the Constitution to seek approval from Congress before carrying out a raid like that and taking into custody a foreign leader - legitimate or not. So yeah, it is very illegal.

I can't find where in the constitution it says that it is illegal, could you provide the part of the constitution that makes it illegal.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11:

The Congress shall have Power to declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water.

The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States. The resolution was passed by two-thirds each of the House and Senate, overriding the veto of President Richard Nixon.

Given this, it's clear that Trump has broken US law.

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Reply #13 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 4:36pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 12:11pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 9:57am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:49am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:14am:

Democrats are calling the military capture of Maduro illegal. If his capture was illegal then the courts cannot charge him, in American law for the prosecutor to bring charges they have to have clean hands, the court cannot accept an unlawful capture. The only option available to the demo is to return Maduro to Venezuela.

It is illegal. It is blatantly illegal because Trump is required as per the Constitution to seek approval from Congress before carrying out a raid like that and taking into custody a foreign leader - legitimate or not. So yeah, it is very illegal.

I can't find where in the constitution it says that it is illegal, could you provide the part of the constitution that makes it illegal.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11:

The Congress shall have Power to declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water.

The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States. The resolution was passed by two-thirds each of the House and Senate, overriding the veto of President Richard Nixon.

Given this, it's clear that Trump has broken US law.

Can you show me where Trump declared war?

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Re: Democrats to free Maduro
Reply #14 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 11:04pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 4:36pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 12:11pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 9:57am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:49am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 8:14am:

Democrats are calling the military capture of Maduro illegal. If his capture was illegal then the courts cannot charge him, in American law for the prosecutor to bring charges they have to have clean hands, the court cannot accept an unlawful capture. The only option available to the demo is to return Maduro to Venezuela.

It is illegal. It is blatantly illegal because Trump is required as per the Constitution to seek approval from Congress before carrying out a raid like that and taking into custody a foreign leader - legitimate or not. So yeah, it is very illegal.

I can't find where in the constitution it says that it is illegal, could you provide the part of the constitution that makes it illegal.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11:

The Congress shall have Power to declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water.

The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States. The resolution was passed by two-thirds each of the House and Senate, overriding the veto of President Richard Nixon.

Given this, it's clear that Trump has broken US law.

Can you show me where Trump declared war?

Did you miss the bit where he ordered the military to strike the capital of Venezuela and detain Maduro and his wife? Huh

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