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Reply #30 - Jan 10^th, 2026 at 10:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 8:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 8:30pm:

My brother-in-law was the Chief Scientist for the Defence Forces. He was in charge during the decision. He and I have had long conversations about the decision. Basically his conclusion was that the French deal was a reasonable deal but ScoMo scotched it by lying to Macron so there was only the AUKUS deal left on the table. He decided it was a reasonable deal considering how rarely the USA was to ordinarily trade it's nuclear technology. They were never going to give their technology away, they were going to sell it and make a purchaser pay through the nose for it. Overall we are getting access to advanced submarines that leave the French one for dead, nuclear reactors of advanced form and nuclear training of extremely advanced form. Bobby wants to moan and carp about the cost, without understanding exactly what it is we are purchasing. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Paul Keating doesn't agree -
did you see the long video of him speaking about it?

Who is more qualified to comment on the subject, Bobby? Paul Keating or an ex-chief scientist for the Defence Forces? Get back to us with your reasonings. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #31 - Jan 10^th, 2026 at 10:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 10:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 8:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 8:30pm:

My brother-in-law was the Chief Scientist for the Defence Forces. He was in charge during the decision. He and I have had long conversations about the decision. Basically his conclusion was that the French deal was a reasonable deal but ScoMo scotched it by lying to Macron so there was only the AUKUS deal left on the table. He decided it was a reasonable deal considering how rarely the USA was to ordinarily trade it's nuclear technology. They were never going to give their technology away, they were going to sell it and make a purchaser pay through the nose for it. Overall we are getting access to advanced submarines that leave the French one for dead, nuclear reactors of advanced form and nuclear training of extremely advanced form. Bobby wants to moan and carp about the cost, without understanding exactly what it is we are purchasing. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Paul Keating doesn't agree -
did you see the long video of him speaking about it?

Who is more qualified to comment on the subject, Bobby? Paul Keating or an ex-chief scientist for the Defence Forces? Get back to us with your reasonings. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Subs are a political decision not a scientific decision.

We all know that the Yanky subs are highly advanced. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15134 Armidale Gender:	Re: Assistance required Reply #32 - Jan 11^th, 2026 at 5:45am Does anyone know why we don't know about AUKUS decisions?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 118025 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Assistance required Reply #33 - Jan 11^th, 2026 at 2:04pm chimera wrote on Jan 11^th, 2026 at 5:45am: Does anyone know why we don't know about AUKUS decisions? Just ask Brian - he seems to know everything about it.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 46311	Re: Assistance required Reply #34 - Jan 11^th, 2026 at 5:26pm chimera wrote on Jan 11^th, 2026 at 5:45am: Does anyone know why we don't know about AUKUS decisions? Everything, not concerned with security matters, is public knowledge. It is widely publicised in the media. It is reported basically in the Defence forum if you'd care to search for them. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Reply #35 - Jan 11^th, 2026 at 5:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 10:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 10:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 8:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 8:30pm:

My brother-in-law was the Chief Scientist for the Defence Forces. He was in charge during the decision. He and I have had long conversations about the decision. Basically his conclusion was that the French deal was a reasonable deal but ScoMo scotched it by lying to Macron so there was only the AUKUS deal left on the table. He decided it was a reasonable deal considering how rarely the USA was to ordinarily trade it's nuclear technology. They were never going to give their technology away, they were going to sell it and make a purchaser pay through the nose for it. Overall we are getting access to advanced submarines that leave the French one for dead, nuclear reactors of advanced form and nuclear training of extremely advanced form. Bobby wants to moan and carp about the cost, without understanding exactly what it is we are purchasing. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Paul Keating doesn't agree -
did you see the long video of him speaking about it?

Who is more qualified to comment on the subject, Bobby? Paul Keating or an ex-chief scientist for the Defence Forces? Get back to us with your reasonings. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Subs are a political decision not a scientific decision.

Hopefully based on scientific knowledge and recommendation, I would hope, Bobby.

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We all know that the Yanky subs are highly advanced.

Yet your not willing to pay for the best on offer. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #36 - Jan 11^th, 2026 at 5:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2026 at 5:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 10:12pm:

Subs are a political decision not a scientific decision.

Hopefully based on scientific knowledge and recommendation, I would hope, Bobby.

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We all know that the Yanky subs are highly advanced.

Yet you not willing to pay for the best on offer. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

The best?

Considering that specifications are classified top secret for all navies -

then we wouldn't know. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #37 - Jan 11^th, 2026 at 6:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2026 at 5:26pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 11^th, 2026 at 5:45am:

Does anyone know why we don't know about AUKUS decisions?

It is widely publicised in the media.

'The Pentagon says its review into the AUKUS pact has identified areas to put it on its "strongest possible footing" — but the recommendations have not been released and might never be made public.. At least two of them would be second-hand Virginia-class submarines, but the deal says they would only be made available if the US did not need them for its own national security.'

If other decisions are made, such as Australia not getting any subs at all, it will not be made public and just maybe the US keeps the cash. Who knows, anything is something, or could be nothing instead.

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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3131 Gender:	Re: Assistance required Reply #38 - Jan 11^th, 2026 at 9:22pm Whenever I have a problem that no one can help me with I choose to wear my underwear on my head and walk around the local shops screaming at random people. Someone always asks me if I am ok? I also do this when I can’t pay for petrol.
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Reply #39 - Jan 11^th, 2026 at 9:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 8:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 1:35pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 1:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 1:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 12:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 10:59am:

Bobby know buggerall about Defence. He is a danger.

Soren knows buggerall about most things. He is a Racist/Islamophobe/fool.

Armchair seems to know something about most he posts.

FD knows a lot about most that he posts.

I know a fair deal about computers/Defence/Genetics/Politics.

My defence ideas saved us $368 billion. Roll Eyes

Why then have you abandoned the Defence forum, Bobby? You know nothing about Defence, why not admit your ignorance? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

A bit ungrateful Brian, Bobby saved us $368 billion.

Brian couldn't admit I was right even though
Paul Keating agreed with me. Roll Eyes

My brother-in-law was the Chief Scientist for the Defence Forces. He was in charge during the decision. He and I have had long conversations about the decision. Basically his conclusion was that the French deal was a reasonable deal but ScoMo scotched it by lying to Macron so there was only the AUKUS deal left on the table. He decided it was a reasonable deal considering how rarely the USA was to ordinarily trade it's nuclear technology. They were never going to give their technology away, they were going to sell it and make a purchaser pay through the nose for it. Overall we are getting access to advanced submarines that leave the French one for dead, nuclear reactors of advanced form and nuclear training of extremely advanced form. Bobby wants to moan and carp about the cost, without understanding exactly what it is we are purchasing. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Another Doctor of Divinity!! Cheesy

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Reply #40 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 2:35am

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2026 at 9:22pm:

Whenever I have a problem that no one can help me with I choose to wear my underwear on my head and walk around the local shops screaming at random people.

Someone always asks me if I am ok?

I also do this when I can’t pay for petrol.

Good thinking

What colour undies do you use?

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15134 Armidale Gender:	Re: Assistance required Reply #41 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 5:34am That's not the point. The q. is do people tell you anything or nothing. Being OK is something but colour isn't the problem.
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Gnads Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 33186 Gender:	Re: Assistance required Reply #42 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 7:13am I don't know everything but I know a bit about many things. Unlike Bwyan who is the resident F I G J A M.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41357 Gender:	Re: Assistance required Reply #43 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 7:48am chimera wrote on Jan 12^th, 2026 at 5:34am: That's not the point. The q. is do people tell you anything or nothing. Being OK is something but colour isn't the problem. Colour is part of the answer
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Reply #44 - Jan 12^th, 2026 at 7:52am

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2026 at 9:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2026 at 8:30pm:

My brother-in-law was the Chief Scientist for the Defence Forces. He was in charge during the decision. He and I have had long conversations about the decision. Basically his conclusion was that the French deal was a reasonable deal but ScoMo scotched it by lying to Macron so there was only the AUKUS deal left on the table. He decided it was a reasonable deal considering how rarely the USA was to ordinarily trade it's nuclear technology. They were never going to give their technology away, they were going to sell it and make a purchaser pay through the nose for it. Overall we are getting access to advanced submarines that leave the French one for dead, nuclear reactors of advanced form and nuclear training of extremely advanced form. Bobby wants to moan and carp about the cost, without understanding exactly what it is we are purchasing. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Another Doctor of Divinity!! Cheesy

I wish I had a Doctor of Divinity -

people would respect me. Cry

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