chimera wrote Yesterday at 5:44pm:


Is this the  nonsense are you referring to:

  Hobbes argued that in the "state of nature," there are no moral rights, only a chaotic "war of all against all" where individuals have a right to everything, including others' bodies, making life "nasty, brutish, and short". He argued that rights must be surrendered to a sovereign (the state) to create order, making him an opponent of the idea of inalienable rights.

Hobbes is obviously correct; note his reference to (universal) 'moral rights' (eg as delineated in the UN UDHR) as opposed to delusional 'natural rights" of individuals.

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You suffering from early stage dementia?  Anyway, moving right along....

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Ah - at last, questions showing how your "rights" and "sovereignty"  delusions cripple your capacity to think.

Answer: there is no difference, of course.

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So you don't understand how the delusional  concept  of 'individual rights' - which self-interested individuals (who by nature compete with one-another) believe they possess in nature -  are replicated in the delusional "sovereign rights" of  individual  nations which, in the absence of an international rules-based system, aka interntional law, resort to might is right.

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Oh dear - it's 'mirror time'....

chimera wrote Today at 4:45pm:


And you lack the mental competence to even begin to critique his revelations regarding  the reality of the human condition. 

Admittedly it's tricky: delusions by definition are fixed false beliefs not amenable to reason, therefore Hobbes' revelations are excluded/beyond your capacity to think.

However I persist in the expectation that others might be open to Hobbes' (et al) revelations.

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You've obviously forgotten the pages in which I regularly admonished you to take yourself to the Donbas frontline's mincing machine, a situation deserved by those ruled by their Neanderthal indstincts, and weak-minded enough to follow socalled 'patriotism' (on both sides)  to an untimely death. 

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Did you miss my answer?

It isn't different; both place themselves above UN sovereignty in internaional affairs.

That's the problem the world is facing, ie lack of a rules-based system aka international law, in a globalized economy. 

And I already explained why China wants to to turn some rocks in the SCS into military bases, ie to defend the UN-recognised One China principle, against delusional US "freedom" freaks.

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How is the answer I've given - twice now - propaganda?

It's a reasoned response based on Hobbes' (et al) revelations about the human condition, and the need for a system of universal rights based on morality justice and fairness, as delineated in the UN UDHR.

I can hear your non-evolved reptilian brain screaming from here...oh dear