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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #255 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:02pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:55pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:42pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:48pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:38pm:
It is illegal to falsely identify yourself as police in both the US and Australia.


They don't identify themselves as police when they approach members of the public, or when they shoot them in the face.



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:01pm:
They weren't identifying themselves at all, they rarely do, hence the masks.


Once for for the illiterate: All of them clearly had POLICE in large lettering on the front and back.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:14pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:25pm:
Pecca,

Then - she almost ran over one of their agents.


No, she didn't - that's just the lie being used by Noem and Trump.

Watch the video and see for yourself - don't listen to the people who are trying to cover up the murder.



Here's one of those annoying little facts you keep avoiding Greg, on account of you being hysterical. The agent had to take evasive action to avoid being struck by the vehicle. You can see it in the video.


At the time that the Ice man shot there was zero threat.


She was trying to run him over with her car. There was a direct and imminent threat to the police officer, as well as a threat to anyone else nearby.


They aren't police officers and they don't identify themselves as police officers.



One more time for the illiterate: they clearly had POLICE in large lettering on the front and back. They are allowed to identify themselves as police, contrary to the idiotic claims made here. And the reason they do this is so that morons like this lady do not get themselves shot or arrested for not following instructions.

Furthermore, the lady who tried to run him over obviously knew he was law enforcement. That's why she was there trying to run him over.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:14pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:25pm:
Pecca,

Then - she almost ran over one of their agents.


No, she didn't - that's just the lie being used by Noem and Trump.

Watch the video and see for yourself - don't listen to the people who are trying to cover up the murder.



Here's one of those annoying little facts you keep avoiding Greg, on account of you being hysterical. The agent had to take evasive action to avoid being struck by the vehicle. You can see it in the video.


At the time that the Ice man shot there was zero threat.


She was trying to run him over with her car. There was a direct an imminent threat to him as well as anyone else on the road.

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I see. So to date, we've gone from they ARE police to they are ALLOWED to identify as police, even though they are not.


If they are allowed to identify themselves as police, that means they are police.


No, dear, they're called Immigration and Customs Enforcement. 


They are also called names like Bob and Trevor. They are also called police, because they are federal law enforcement officers. At the time the moron was shot, they had POLICE in large lettering across the front and back.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #256 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:04pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:56pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:47pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:45pm:
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It's members of the public who mistakenly identify them as police officers


One more time for the illiterate: they clearly had POLICE in large lettering on the front and back.


They sure did.

Nobody is disputing that.

They aren't police officers though, and they don't identify themselves as such.

https://www.booker.senate.gov/news/press/booker-introduces-bill-to-block-ice-cbp...


One more time for the illiterate: they clearly had POLICE in large lettering on the front and back. If that is not identifying as police, what is?


Approaching someone with their police badge visible displaying their surname & police number whilst saying "Hello, I'm a police officer".

Is she identifying as a queen?   Undecided

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One more time for the illiterate: they clearly had POLICE in large lettering on the front and back. If that is not identifying as police, what is? Only a moron would have been confused by it. This not some kind of trickery as the morons keep claiming. They are federal law enforcement officers who are allowed to identify themselves as police. The whole point of identifying themselves as police is so complete morons like this lady do not get themselves shot or arrested for not following lawful instruction.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #257 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:55pm:
They don't identify as police, and they have no powers of police, you know that.


I know, and I said, that they are police, they are allowed to identify themselves as police, they are federal law enforcement officers, and they have the powers to stop, detain, arrest etc. Furthermore, they clearly and legally identified themselves as police before the woman tried to evade arrest and run them over.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #258 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:02pm:
They are also called names like Bob and Trevor. They are also called police, because they are federal law enforcement officers. At the time the moron was shot, they had POLICE in large lettering across the front and back.


No, they are called 'agents' (BPA).

And yes, they had 'POLICE
US Border Patrol
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written on their shirts/jackets in order to fool the public.

I guess it worked.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #259 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:48pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:38pm:
It is illegal to falsely identify yourself as police in both the US and Australia.


They don't identify themselves as police when they approach members of the public, or when they shoot them in the face.



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:01pm:
They weren't identifying themselves at all, they rarely do, hence the masks.


Once for for the illiterate: All of them clearly had POLICE in large lettering on the front and back.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:14pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:25pm:
Pecca,

Then - she almost ran over one of their agents.


No, she didn't - that's just the lie being used by Noem and Trump.

Watch the video and see for yourself - don't listen to the people who are trying to cover up the murder.



Here's one of those annoying little facts you keep avoiding Greg, on account of you being hysterical. The agent had to take evasive action to avoid being struck by the vehicle. You can see it in the video.


At the time that the Ice man shot there was zero threat.


She was trying to run him over with her car. There was a direct and imminent threat to the police officer, as well as a threat to anyone else nearby.


She was past any possible impact before the shooting and from the beginning she was steering slowly away from the officer.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #260 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:12pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:55pm:
They don't identify as police, and they have no powers of police, you know that.


I know, and I said, that they are police, they are allowed to identify themselves as police, they are federal law enforcement officers, and they have the powers to stop, detain, arrest etc. Furthermore, they clearly and legally identified themselves as police before the woman tried to evade arrest and run them over.


We know what you said, but everything you said is incorrect.

They are Border Patrol Agents, not Police Officers.


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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #261 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:14pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:09pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:48pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:38pm:
It is illegal to falsely identify yourself as police in both the US and Australia.


They don't identify themselves as police when they approach members of the public, or when they shoot them in the face.



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:01pm:
They weren't identifying themselves at all, they rarely do, hence the masks.


Once for for the illiterate: All of them clearly had POLICE in large lettering on the front and back.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:14pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 12:25pm:
Pecca,

Then - she almost ran over one of their agents.


No, she didn't - that's just the lie being used by Noem and Trump.

Watch the video and see for yourself - don't listen to the people who are trying to cover up the murder.



Here's one of those annoying little facts you keep avoiding Greg, on account of you being hysterical. The agent had to take evasive action to avoid being struck by the vehicle. You can see it in the video.


At the time that the Ice man shot there was zero threat.


She was trying to run him over with her car. There was a direct and imminent threat to the police officer, as well as a threat to anyone else nearby.


She was past any possible impact before the shooting and from the beginning she was steering slowly away from the officer.


Crap. If the officer had not taken evasive action, he would have been hit by the car. You are confusing the officer's lucky escape with the absence of a threat. Futhermore there was nothing slow about it. You need to stop watching it in slow motion.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #262 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:15pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:12pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:55pm:
They don't identify as police, and they have no powers of police, you know that.


I know, and I said, that they are police, they are allowed to identify themselves as police, they are federal law enforcement officers, and they have the powers to stop, detain, arrest etc. Furthermore, they clearly and legally identified themselves as police before the woman tried to evade arrest and run them over.


We know what you said, but everything you said is incorrect.

They are Border Patrol Agents, not Police Officers.


Can you demonstrate for us that they are not allowed to identify themselves as police? Quickly, before you get hysterical again and call it a summary execution.
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Reply #263 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:17pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:55pm:
They don't identify as police, and they have no powers of police, you know that.


I know, and I said, that they are police, they are allowed to identify themselves as police, they are federal law enforcement officers, and they have the powers to stop, detain, arrest etc. Furthermore, they clearly and legally identified themselves as police before the woman tried to evade arrest and run them over.


You say that, do you? That's nice, dear.

Greggery, why is Freediver refusing to say he watched the video?

We'll try this as a multiple choice, shall we?

a) Because he knows the video shows no such thing.

b) Because he's cunningly covering for Leroy, who went into hiding after you showed him the video.

c) Because he hasn't been the same since Abu owned him all those years ago.

d) What sound does a jellyfish make?

e) All of the above.
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Reply #264 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:27pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:40pm:
They aren't police officers and they don't identify themselves as police officers.

They don't walk up to people before they shoot them in the face and say "I am a police officer".

They just wear shirts/jackets that have 'Police' printed on them.

It's members of the public who mistakenly identify them as police officers (which is the whole idea) because of their clothing.

You are talking rot again, skunk pig (peccary = skunk pig)

police, body of officers representing the civil authority of government. Police typically are responsible for maintaining public order and safety, enforcing the law, and preventing, detecting, and investigating criminal activities. These functions are known as policing. Police are often also entrusted with various licensing and regulatory activities.


There is now a consensus among researchers, based on a definition first proposed by American sociologist Egon Bittner, that the common feature among all the different agencies engaged in policing is the legal competence to enforce coercive, nonnegotiable measures to resolve problematic situations. Such situations are characterized by two features: their potential for harm and the need to solve them urgently before they develop that potential. Hence, the actual use of coercion or the threat of using it allows police to put a quick, nonnegotiated, and conclusive end to problematic situations (e.g., keeping people away from the scene of a fire for their own protection and to allow firemen to do their job).

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Policing = law enforcement.

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Reply #265 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:29pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:40pm:
They aren't police officers and they don't identify themselves as police officers.

They don't walk up to people before they shoot them in the face and say "I am a police officer".

They just wear shirts/jackets that have 'Police' printed on them.

It's members of the public who mistakenly identify them as police officers (which is the whole idea) because of their clothing.

You are talking rot agajng skunk pig (peccary = skunk pig)

police, body of officers representing the civil authority of government. Police typically are responsible for maintaining public order and safety, enforcing the law, and preventing, detecting, and investigating criminal activities. These functions are known as policing. Police are often also entrusted with various licensing and regulatory activities.


There is now a consensus among researchers, based on a definition first proposed by American sociologist Egon Bittner, that the common feature among all the different agencies engaged in policing is the legal competence to enforce coercive, nonnegotiable measures to resolve problematic situations. Such situations are characterized by two features: their potential for harm and the need to solve them urgently before they develop that potential. Hence, the actual use of coercion or the threat of using it allows police to put a quick, nonnegotiated, and conclusive end to problematic situations (e.g., keeping people away from the scene of a fire for their own protection and to allow firemen to do their job).

Britannica




They are Border Patrol Agents, not Police Officers.

You and freediver can refuse to believe that all you like, but it still doesn't make them police officers.
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Reply #266 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:31pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:12pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:55pm:
They don't identify as police, and they have no powers of police, you know that.


I know, and I said, that they are police, they are allowed to identify themselves as police, they are federal law enforcement officers, and they have the powers to stop, detain, arrest etc. Furthermore, they clearly and legally identified themselves as police before the woman tried to evade arrest and run them over.


We know what you said, but everything you said is incorrect.

They are Border Patrol Agents, not Police Officers.


Greg can you demonstrate for us that they are not allowed to identify themselves as police? Quickly, before you get hysterical again and call it a summary execution.
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Reply #267 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:39pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:40pm:
They aren't police officers and they don't identify themselves as police officers.

They don't walk up to people before they shoot them in the face and say "I am a police officer".

They just wear shirts/jackets that have 'Police' printed on them.

It's members of the public who mistakenly identify them as police officers (which is the whole idea) because of their clothing.

You are talking rot agajng skunk pig (peccary = skunk pig)

police, body of officers representing the civil authority of government. Police typically are responsible for maintaining public order and safety, enforcing the law, and preventing, detecting, and investigating criminal activities. These functions are known as policing. Police are often also entrusted with various licensing and regulatory activities.


There is now a consensus among researchers, based on a definition first proposed by American sociologist Egon Bittner, that the common feature among all the different agencies engaged in policing is the legal competence to enforce coercive, nonnegotiable measures to resolve problematic situations. Such situations are characterized by two features: their potential for harm and the need to solve them urgently before they develop that potential. Hence, the actual use of coercion or the threat of using it allows police to put a quick, nonnegotiated, and conclusive end to problematic situations (e.g., keeping people away from the scene of a fire for their own protection and to allow firemen to do their job).

Britannica




Now they're resorting to the Encyclopedia Brittanica.

I say, old chap, does the Cyc Brit specify the powers of border control agents to force street closures in the suburbs of Minnesota?

Does it cite their authority to issue move-on orders, undertake traffic control, dispense penalties for parking infringements, use reasonable force in the carriage of their duties and terminate illegally parked vehicle owners?

Can you quote the correct Minneapolis ordinance?

Cheers.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #268 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:12pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:55pm:
They don't identify as police, and they have no powers of police, you know that.


I know, and I said, that they are police, they are allowed to identify themselves as police, they are federal law enforcement officers, and they have the powers to stop, detain, arrest etc. Furthermore, they clearly and legally identified themselves as police before the woman tried to evade arrest and run them over.


We know what you said, but everything you said is incorrect.

They are Border Patrol Agents, not Police Officers.


Greg can you demonstrate for us that they are not allowed to identify themselves as police? Quickly, before you get hysterical again and call it a summary execution.


He's right, Greggery. You'd better calm down and repost our links for Freediver to read again.

We wouldn't want you to get all hysterical, have a meltdown and go into autobot. It wouldn't be right, dear.

Do you have any socks you can slip into?
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #269 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:46pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:45pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:12pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:55pm:
They don't identify as police, and they have no powers of police, you know that.


I know, and I said, that they are police, they are allowed to identify themselves as police, they are federal law enforcement officers, and they have the powers to stop, detain, arrest etc. Furthermore, they clearly and legally identified themselves as police before the woman tried to evade arrest and run them over.


We know what you said, but everything you said is incorrect.

They are Border Patrol Agents, not Police Officers.


Greg can you demonstrate for us that they are not allowed to identify themselves as police? Quickly, before you get hysterical again and call it a summary execution.


He's right, Greggery. You'd better calm down and repost our links for Freediver to read again.

We wouldn't want you to get all hysterical, have a meltdown and go into autobot. It wouldn't be right, dear.

Do you have any socks you can slip into?


Greg has not posted any links that support his claim that ICE agents are not allowed to identify themselves as police.
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