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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #165 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:38am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:11am:

Again, you cannot see what is directly in front of you. If the driver had not reversed and swung the vehicle round, the offficer would not have ended up in her path and would not have had to take evasive action to avoid being run over.

She got shot while trying to evade police and almost running down a police officer. This is 100% on her. Darwin award candidate.

Yes - it's clear to me that he had to jump out of the way
to avoid being run over.

However - if I was the cop -
I would have shot out as many of her tyres as possible - not shot her in the head.

Summary execution was not the appropriate response.

You are hysterical Greg. It was not a summary execution, and you cannot manage to identify a single fact you disagree on.

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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #166 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:44am

Karnal wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:43am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:45am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:16am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:12am:

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Why do you insist on calling immigration authorities police?

They had POLICE written on the front and back in large lettering.

I see. And what's written underneath the large lettering, Freediver?

Can't tell, the video is too grainy. Does it matter? Are you saying they are not police?

I am. You've watched the video, have you?

Are you saying they were illegally misidentifying themselves as police?

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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #167 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:45am

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:41am:

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However - if I was the cop -
I would have shot out as many of her tyres as possible - not shot her in the head.

He did not get a single shot off until the car was on him. His gun would have been over the car bonnet as he fired. If he had messed up in any way - eg slipping on the ice and falling on his arse like the other cop in the left of the frame, he may have under up under the wheel, by which time a bullet hole on the wheel would not have helped.

But he didn't have to shoot her in the head -
he did have choices.

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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #168 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:50am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:45am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:41am:

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However - if I was the cop -
I would have shot out as many of her tyres as possible - not shot her in the head.

He did not get a single shot off until the car was on him. His gun would have been over the car bonnet as he fired. If he had messed up in any way - eg slipping on the ice and falling on his arse like the other cop in the left of the frame, he may have under up under the wheel, by which time a bullet hole on the wheel would not have helped.

But he didn't have to shoot her in the head -
he did have choices.

He had less than a second to make up his mind.

Do we actually know where he shot her? I am surprised he hit her at all. He did well to keep his footing. Must be well trained.

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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #169 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:52am

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

I think this woman is a candidate for the Darwin award. Trying to evade police. Ignoring their instructions to get out of the car. Then driving towards an officer who already had his gun pointed out her.

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What kinds of ruses does ICE use?

It is common for ICE to pretend to be local law enforcement. ICE agents often say they are “police” or “law enforcement” and mimic how local law enforcement officers act and dress. In doing so, they hide their ICE badges, or anything identifying them as ICE. They are often dressed in plain-clothes, are wearing similar colors as local police, and/or wear vests that say POLICE across the front.

As part of a ruse, ICE agents intentionally lie or mislead you about who they are and that their real intentions are to identify and arrest the non-citizen they have targeted. Pretending to be local police, ICE agents may pretend to be conducting a criminal investigation or identity theft case. They may say they just want to show you pictures of a crime suspect to see if you know them.

ICE does not only use ruses pretending to be local police. They also use ruses pretending to be potential employers, or even private businesses. They may drive what looks like a delivery van, wear a fake uniform, or carry ladders, clipboards, and other props. They may intentionally be vague about who they are.

https://www.immigrantdefenseproject.org/ice-ruses/#:~:text=Island%2C%20March%202...

Cunning, no?

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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #170 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:52am

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:38am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:11am:

Again, you cannot see what is directly in front of you. If the driver had not reversed and swung the vehicle round, the offficer would not have ended up in her path and would not have had to take evasive action to avoid being run over.

She got shot while trying to evade police and almost running down a police officer. This is 100% on her. Darwin award candidate.

Yes - it's clear to me that he had to jump out of the way
to avoid being run over.

However - if I was the cop -
I would have shot out as many of her tyres as possible - not shot her in the head.

Summary execution was not the appropriate response.

You are hysterical Greg. It was not a summary execution, and you cannot manage to identify a single fact you disagree on.

It most certainly was a summary execution.

That part of it isn't even up for debate.

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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #171 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:52am

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:44am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:43am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:45am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:16am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:12am:

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Why do you insist on calling immigration authorities police?

They had POLICE written on the front and back in large lettering.

I see. And what's written underneath the large lettering, Freediver?

Can't tell, the video is too grainy. Does it matter? Are you saying they are not police?

I am. You've watched the video, have you?

Are you saying they were illegally misidentifying themselves as police?

Don't want to say?

What's the matter, Freediver, cat got your tongue?

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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #172 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:55am

tallowood wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:50am:

Are there any photos of the shot woman?

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In a video from the scene of the shooting posted to social media, a distraught woman is seen sitting near the vehicle crying, describing Good as her spouse. “That’s my wife, I don’t know what to do!” wailed the woman, who wasn’t identified.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/ice-officer-shoots-woman-dead-in-dramatic-escalation-of-trump-crackdown-20260108-p5nsgn.html

There is the woman's photo there.

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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #173 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:55am

Karnal wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:52am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

I think this woman is a candidate for the Darwin award. Trying to evade police. Ignoring their instructions to get out of the car. Then driving towards an officer who already had his gun pointed out her.

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What kinds of ruses does ICE use?

It is common for ICE to pretend to be local law enforcement. ICE agents often say they are “police” or “law enforcement” and mimic how local law enforcement officers act and dress. In doing so, they hide their ICE badges, or anything identifying them as ICE. They are often dressed in plain-clothes, are wearing similar colors as local police, and/or wear vests that say POLICE across the front.

As part of a ruse, ICE agents intentionally lie or mislead you about who they are and that their real intentions are to identify and arrest the non-citizen they have targeted. Pretending to be local police, ICE agents may pretend to be conducting a criminal investigation or identity theft case. They may say they just want to show you pictures of a crime suspect to see if you know them.

ICE does not only use ruses pretending to be local police. They also use ruses pretending to be potential employers, or even private businesses. They may drive what looks like a delivery van, wear a fake uniform, or carry ladders, clipboards, and other props. They may intentionally be vague about who they are.

https://www.immigrantdefenseproject.org/ice-ruses/#:~:text=Island%2C%20March%202...

Cunning, no?

Are you saying they were illegally misidentifying themselves as police? Do at least try to make sense.

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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #174 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:52am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:38am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:11am:

Again, you cannot see what is directly in front of you. If the driver had not reversed and swung the vehicle round, the offficer would not have ended up in her path and would not have had to take evasive action to avoid being run over.

She got shot while trying to evade police and almost running down a police officer. This is 100% on her. Darwin award candidate.

Yes - it's clear to me that he had to jump out of the way
to avoid being run over.

However - if I was the cop -
I would have shot out as many of her tyres as possible - not shot her in the head.

Summary execution was not the appropriate response.

You are hysterical Greg. It was not a summary execution, and you cannot manage to identify a single fact you disagree on.

It most certainly was a summary execution.

That part of it isn't even up for debate.

Your emotions are preventing you from thinking rationally Greg. Which is why you cannot explain which, if any, of the facts you disagree on.

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Gordon Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 21628 Gordon Gender:	Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman Reply #175 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:59am There was no doubt she knew they were ICE agents because she'd been deliberately using her car to impede their work all day. At least 50 cops down the beach this morning, I made sure I didn't assault them which is why I'm home safe and sound, sans GSW to the face.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #176 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 12:00pm

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:45am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:41am:

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However - if I was the cop -
I would have shot out as many of her tyres as possible - not shot her in the head.

He did not get a single shot off until the car was on him. His gun would have been over the car bonnet as he fired. If he had messed up in any way - eg slipping on the ice and falling on his arse like the other cop in the left of the frame, he may have under up under the wheel, by which time a bullet hole on the wheel would not have helped.

But he didn't have to shoot her in the head -
he did have choices.

He had less than a second to make up his mind.

Do we actually know where he shot her? I am surprised he hit her at all. He did well to keep his footing. Must be well trained.

I heard that he shot her 3 times in the head.

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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #177 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 12:01pm

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:52am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:38am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:11am:

Again, you cannot see what is directly in front of you. If the driver had not reversed and swung the vehicle round, the offficer would not have ended up in her path and would not have had to take evasive action to avoid being run over.

She got shot while trying to evade police and almost running down a police officer. This is 100% on her. Darwin award candidate.

Yes - it's clear to me that he had to jump out of the way
to avoid being run over.

However - if I was the cop -
I would have shot out as many of her tyres as possible - not shot her in the head.

Summary execution was not the appropriate response.

You are hysterical Greg. It was not a summary execution, and you cannot manage to identify a single fact you disagree on.

It most certainly was a summary execution.

That part of it isn't even up for debate.

Your emotions are preventing you from thinking rationally Greg. Which is why you cannot explain which, if any, of the facts you disagree on.

I just told you - it was a summary execution.

She was killed, on the spot, for allegedly committing a crime.

That's a summary execution.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 149410 Gender:	Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman Reply #178 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 12:01pm Gordon wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:59am: There was no doubt she knew they were ICE agents because she'd been deliberately using her car to impede their work all day. Zero evidence to support that claim.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #179 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 12:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 12:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:52am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:38am:

freediver wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 11:11am:

Again, you cannot see what is directly in front of you. If the driver had not reversed and swung the vehicle round, the offficer would not have ended up in her path and would not have had to take evasive action to avoid being run over.

She got shot while trying to evade police and almost running down a police officer. This is 100% on her. Darwin award candidate.

Yes - it's clear to me that he had to jump out of the way
to avoid being run over.

However - if I was the cop -
I would have shot out as many of her tyres as possible - not shot her in the head.

Summary execution was not the appropriate response.

You are hysterical Greg. It was not a summary execution, and you cannot manage to identify a single fact you disagree on.

It most certainly was a summary execution.

That part of it isn't even up for debate.

Your emotions are preventing you from thinking rationally Greg. Which is why you cannot explain which, if any, of the facts you disagree on.

I just told you - it was a summary execution.

She was killed, on the spot, for allegedly committing a crime.

That's a summary execution.

That is your conclusion, because you are hysterical and not thinking rationally. Which is why you deliberately avoid explaining which facts you disagree on. You just keep blurting out the same thing.

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