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Question: Will the ICE officer be charged?

No- MN law says Justified shooting    
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Reply #150 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 10:53am
 
I think this woman is a candidate for the Darwin award. Trying to evade police. Ignoring their instructions to get out of the car. Then driving towards an officer who already had his gun pointed out her.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #151 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 10:57am
 
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The first shot he was next to the car not in it's direct path, you can see from his legs and feet.


Still waiting to see the photo, but the bullet apparently went through the front windscreen. The video shows the officer firing from in front of the car as he is taking evasive action to avoid being hit by the car.

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as he chased the car...


You are blind. At no point does the officer chase the car. It is all over by the time he regains his footing after taking evasive action to avoid being hit by the car. Stop listening to the morons "explaining" it to you and watch the video instead.

https://www.9news.com.au/world/minneapolis-ice-shooting-minnesota-immigration-murder-usa-live-news-updates-donald-trump-tim-walz-jacob-frey/d7f982db-bff6-41b5-ae42-914fcaee2ec3
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Reply #152 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:02am
 
Once more for the blind, deaf and easily confused:

https://www.9news.com.au/world/minneapolis-ice-shooting-minnesota-immigration-murder-usa-live-news-updates-donald-trump-tim-walz-jacob-frey/d7f982db-bff6-41b5-ae42-914fcaee2ec3

20 seconds: you can see the police lights flashing.

36 seconds: agent beside the open drivers side window instructs the woman to "get out of the *** car". For the hard of hearing, they subtitle it for you, so there is no possibility you could get it wrong and think the police are telling her to move the car.

39 seconds: you can see the officer in front of the car draw his weapon. The newsreader even points this out to you: "an officer, at the front, draws his weapon, then...". That's when you hear the gun fire. They even freeze the video and highlight the officer at the front drawing his weapon. You can even see the gun, pointed out the driver from directly in front of the car, you can see the recoil and see the gunsmoke coming out of the gun. Unless you are blind and deaf, there is no way to misunderstand what is going on.

42 seconds: the officer in front of the car shoots the driver through the front windscreen. You can then see him moving to avoid being struck by the vehicle.

44 seconds: you can see that all 4 officers have clearly idenitifable POLICE written on their front and back.

The basic facts:

The woman had been stopped by the police. The driver's window was down so she could hear what she said.

The police are clearly identified.

The police clearly instruct her to get out of the car.

There is an officer directly in front of the car with a drawn weapon.

Despite the clear instruction that clearly came from police and the clear threat from a gun directly in front of here, the woman accelerates toward the officer who is pointing a gun at her, and the officer fires his gun.

The officer only escapes being struck because he takes evasive action.

Despite the crystal clear video and audio of all this happening, along with subtitles, freeze frames etc, people still managed to get everything backwards.
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Reply #153 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:04am
 
The ICE officer in MN violated both protocol and case law.
1) officers are not allowed to fire into a moving vehicle
2) lethal force is not allowed to prevent someone from fleeing
3) case law is clear, an officer cannot intentionally place himself in front of a vehicle and then allege self defense
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Reply #154 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:06am
 
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case law is clear, an officer cannot intentionally place himself in front of a vehicle and then allege self defense


That is not what happened. The office only found himself in front of the vehicle because the driver reversed and swung the vehicle round.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #155 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:06am
 
...

If he'd been standing in front of the car, directly in its path, the bullet trajectory simply wouldn't have entered the windscreen where it did, if it had hit her.

That leaves two possibilities: he was off to the side when he fired through the windscreen as the footage shows, or the first shot missed entirely.

If it missed, the fatal shots had to come through the driver's window while he was beside the car.

There is no legal or moral justification for this homicide.

Stop playing dumb. 
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Reply #156 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:08am
 
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If he'd been standing in front of the car, directly in its path, the bullet trajectory simply wouldn't have entered the windscreen where it did, if it had hit her.


Read it again, slowly: the officer shot the woman as he was taking evasive action to avoid being hit by the car.

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Stop playing dumb.


Grin

It's all there in the video. Have you watched it?
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #157 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:09am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:06am:
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case law is clear, an officer cannot intentionally place himself in front of a vehicle and then allege self defense


That is not what happened. The office only found himself in front of the vehicle because the driver reversed and swung the vehicle round.


Nope.

Look at the additional footage, he was behind her, walked around to record her on his phone, because training be damned, and as he blocked her way, she turned to avoid him.

It's in the videos...

This isn't a topic open for debate, it's right there...
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #158 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:11am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:09am:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:06am:
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case law is clear, an officer cannot intentionally place himself in front of a vehicle and then allege self defense


That is not what happened. The office only found himself in front of the vehicle because the driver reversed and swung the vehicle round.


Nope.

Look at the additional footage, he was behind her, walked around to record her on his phone, because training be damned, and as he blocked her way, she turned to avoid him.

It's in the videos...

This isn't a topic open for debate, it's right there...


Again, you cannot see what is directly in front of you. If the driver had not reversed and swung the vehicle round, the offficer would not have ended up in her path and would not have had to take evasive action to avoid being run over.

She got shot while trying to evade police and almost running down a police officer. This is 100% on her. Darwin award candidate.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #159 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:27am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:11am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:09am:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:06am:
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case law is clear, an officer cannot intentionally place himself in front of a vehicle and then allege self defense


That is not what happened. The office only found himself in front of the vehicle because the driver reversed and swung the vehicle round.


Nope.

Look at the additional footage, he was behind her, walked around to record her on his phone, because training be damned, and as he blocked her way, she turned to avoid him.

It's in the videos...

This isn't a topic open for debate, it's right there...


Again, you cannot see what is directly in front of you. If the driver had not reversed and swung the vehicle round, the offficer would not have ended up in her path and would not have had to take evasive action to avoid being run over.

She got shot while trying to evade police and almost running down a police officer. This is 100% on her. Darwin award candidate.


Nope.

You've got it completely wrong - Roo is right.

Moreover, even if she was in the wrong, which she wasn't, summarily executing her was not the appropriate response.

The ICE terrorist was 100% in the wrong and hopefully he'll pay for his crime ... one day.
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Reply #160 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:31am
 
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You've got it completely wrong - Roo is right.


Do you disagree with me on any of the facts, or only the sentiment? Because so far none of the people dribbling out "nope" can explain themselves any better. In particular:

If the driver had not reversed and swung the vehicle round, the officer would not have ended up in her path and would not have had to take evasive action to avoid being run over.
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Re: ICE Agent just murdered a woman
Reply #161 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:38am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:11am:
Again, you cannot see what is directly in front of you. If the driver had not reversed and swung the vehicle round, the offficer would not have ended up in her path and would not have had to take evasive action to avoid being run over.

She got shot while trying to evade police and almost running down a police officer. This is 100% on her. Darwin award candidate.



Yes - it's clear to me that he had to jump out of the way
to avoid being run over.

However - if I was the cop -
I would have shot out as many of her tyres as possible - not shot her in the head.
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Reply #162 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:41am
 
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However - if I was the cop -
I would have shot out as many of her tyres as possible - not shot her in the head.


He did not get a single shot off until the car was on him. His gun would have been over the car bonnet as he fired. If he had messed up in any way - eg slipping on the ice and falling on his arse like the other cop in the left of the frame, he may have under up under the wheel, by which time a bullet hole on the wheel would not have helped.
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Reply #163 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:41am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:38am:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:11am:
Again, you cannot see what is directly in front of you. If the driver had not reversed and swung the vehicle round, the offficer would not have ended up in her path and would not have had to take evasive action to avoid being run over.

She got shot while trying to evade police and almost running down a police officer. This is 100% on her. Darwin award candidate.



Yes - it's clear to me that he had to jump out of the way
to avoid being run over.

However - if I was the cop -
I would have shot out as many of her tyres as possible - not shot her in the head.


Summary execution was not the appropriate response.

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Reply #164 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 11:43am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 10:45am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 10:16am:
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 10:12am:
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Why do you insist on calling immigration authorities police?


They had POLICE written on the front and back in large lettering.


I see. And what's written underneath the large lettering, Freediver?


Can't tell, the video is too grainy. Does it matter? Are you saying they are not police?


I am. You've watched the video, have you?
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