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Re: MAGA Off-ramp
Reply #15 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 8:58am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:41am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:39am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:33am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:21am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:42am:

This reads, once again, like a denunciatory letter to the Stasi circa 1952.

You're not a victim here, Frank. You're bound by your choices.

Since you can't dispute a single fact I posted, the corruption, the abuses, the suppression, the violence you cheer on, you retreat into Cold War rhetoric as if invoking it grants immunity.

You missed the off-ramp, and you did so deliberately. Cry all you like, but the consequences of your decisions are yours alone.

Everything you now defend, every argument you make in this thread, reveals more about you than any critique ever could.

And no, I don't see redemption for you. No forgiveness. This is who you are, and it will remain so until you cease to be.

It's a similar thing faced by the rest of the TDS cultists, still faithfully cheering him on, ignoring everything they're told to, including those in the US who are hurting now more than ever thanks to Trump, dutifully shaking their fists at Biden.

If they, like you, are too stupid to see the light, they're not worth redemption either. They had their chance. It's time for their find out moment.

Sounds like a manifesto of someone just before they go on a shooting rampage. I would keep away from public places for a while if you live near sadroo.

Wrong. It's more along the lines of "you wanted it, you got it". You can't complain now that your health insurance costs have exploded. You can't complain now that when a natural disaster hits, FEMA won't be there to help. You can't complain now that nearly everything you buy is more expensive because you voted for Trump and he's enacted these tariffs. You wanted him, you got him and you're stuck with that decision to vote for him.

Exactly.

And no complaining about your grandkids dying from preventable diseases.

You wanted RFK Jr, you got him.

Yep - the US is now suffering through its worst flu season in more than 25 years thanks to the moron in charge of HHS. He has also seen fit to continue his attack on vaccinations by changing official advice on vaccines that had, until now, been commonplace. America really is going down the crapper under this administration.

It'll take many years for them to recover.

It's sad that one "man" has single-handedly destroyed what was once a great nation.

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Re: MAGA Off-ramp
Reply #16 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:21am

mothra wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:28am:

I get that they're troglodytes but this kind of sentiment frightens me.

There is always redemption. In fact, throughout the ages, many of the most potent agents of change have been those to walk dark places.

I'd hate to see the Trump fueled zeitgeist go on to punish absolutely anybody more than it already has. He's preyed on the most vulnerable, let's not join ranks.

It's never to late to see the light.

Unless of course Trump gets us all killed ... which looks more likely with every passing day.

Normally, I could shrug off political differences, even when they mean people lose healthcare or the redistribution of wealth feeds the big end of town. Politics is messy, opinions clash, you roll with it.

But this isn't that anymore. The remaining red hats aren't just disagreeing, they're openly defending child abusers. They're applauding extrajudicial killings, masked, unaccountable secret police snatching people from the streets, ignoring constitutional rights, even murdering American citizens. And the unprecedented levels of corruption from the top down, putting the very democracy at risk.

These aren't policy disagreements. This is moral rot. Their humanity is compromised, and they back it willingly.

At this point, it's impossible to look at them and not see the truth: these people are beyond redemption.

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Re: MAGA Off-ramp
Reply #17 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:25am

mothra wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:28am:

I get that they're troglodytes but this kind of sentiment frightens me.

There is always redemption. In fact, throughout the ages, many of the most potent agents of change have been those to walk dark places.

I'd hate to see the Trump fueled zeitgeist go on to punish absolutely anybody more than it already has. He's preyed on the most vulnerable, let's not join ranks.

It's never to late to see the light.

Unless of course Trump gets us all killed ... which looks more likely with every passing day.

And who would kill us??

The Chinese? Russians? Mohammedans?

Oh, I know!!! The Americans are goingto kill us all!!!!

You mongs are totally out of what you call your minds.

Ludicrous.

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Re: MAGA Off-ramp
Reply #18 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:29am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:39am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:33am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:21am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:42am:

This reads, once again, like a denunciatory letter to the Stasi circa 1952.

You're not a victim here, Frank. You're bound by your choices.

Since you can't dispute a single fact I posted, the corruption, the abuses, the suppression, the violence you cheer on, you retreat into Cold War rhetoric as if invoking it grants immunity.

You missed the off-ramp, and you did so deliberately. Cry all you like, but the consequences of your decisions are yours alone.

Everything you now defend, every argument you make in this thread, reveals more about you than any critique ever could.

And no, I don't see redemption for you. No forgiveness. This is who you are, and it will remain so until you cease to be.

It's a similar thing faced by the rest of the TDS cultists, still faithfully cheering him on, ignoring everything they're told to, including those in the US who are hurting now more than ever thanks to Trump, dutifully shaking their fists at Biden.

If they, like you, are too stupid to see the light, they're not worth redemption either. They had their chance. It's time for their find out moment.

Sounds like a manifesto of someone just before they go on a shooting rampage. I would keep away from public places for a while if you live near sadroo.

Wrong. It's more along the lines of "you wanted it, you got it". You can't complain now that your health insurance costs have exploded. You can't complain now that when a natural disaster hits, FEMA won't be there to help. You can't complain now that nearly everything you buy is more expensive because you voted for Trump and he's enacted these tariffs. You wanted him, you got him and you're stuck with that decision to vote for him.

Exactly.

Even if they take off their red hats, we won't forget what they supported.

Take Megyn Kelly. Now she's whining that Fox News is falling in line behind Trump's wars in Venezuela and Greenland, suddenly "taking a stand", but only because her sons are nearing conscription age.

She was one of the loudest voices pushing Trump back into power. That won't be forgotten. If her sons go to war, they can blame their mother. If they die on the battlefield, she has no one to blame but herself.

She's not a victim, she's finding out.

They can ditch the Nazi uniforms, take off the red hats, but the swastika is forever stamped on their foreheads.

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Re: MAGA Off-ramp
Reply #19 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:31am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:21am:

mothra wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:28am:

I get that they're troglodytes but this kind of sentiment frightens me.

There is always redemption. In fact, throughout the ages, many of the most potent agents of change have been those to walk dark places.

I'd hate to see the Trump fueled zeitgeist go on to punish absolutely anybody more than it already has. He's preyed on the most vulnerable, let's not join ranks.

It's never to late to see the light.

Unless of course Trump gets us all killed ... which looks more likely with every passing day.

Normally, I could shrug off political differences, even when they mean people lose healthcare or the redistribution of wealth feeds the big end of town. Politics is messy, opinions clash, you roll with it.

But this isn't that anymore. The remaining red hats aren't just disagreeing, they're openly defending child abusers. They're applauding extrajudicial killings, masked, unaccountable secret police snatching people from the streets, ignoring constitutional rights, even murdering American citizens. And the unprecedented levels of corruption from the top down, putting the very democracy at risk.

These aren't policy disagreements. This is moral rot. Their humanity is compromised, and they back it willingly.

At this point, it's impossible to look at them and not see the truth: these people are beyond redemption.

Yep. So true.

And ICE Barbie's terrorists have murdered an American citizen in Minneapolis today.

Frank will be celebrating, of course.

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Re: MAGA Off-ramp
Reply #20 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:42am

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:25am:

mothra wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:28am:

I get that they're troglodytes but this kind of sentiment frightens me.

There is always redemption. In fact, throughout the ages, many of the most potent agents of change have been those to walk dark places.

I'd hate to see the Trump fueled zeitgeist go on to punish absolutely anybody more than it already has. He's preyed on the most vulnerable, let's not join ranks.

It's never to late to see the light.

Unless of course Trump gets us all killed ... which looks more likely with every passing day.

And who would kill us??

The Chinese? Russians? Mohammedans?

Oh, I know!!! The Americans are goingto kill us all!!!!

You mongs are totally out of what you call your minds.

Ludicrous.

We are living through that exact period, in real time, that schoolchildren studying WW2 look back on, asking how anyone could let Hitler rise and how ordinary Germans could support him.

Future students studying this chapter will ask the same thing: why didn't anyone stop Trump, and how did so many Americans continue to cheer him on?

This is exactly what people mean when they say people like you, Frank, are on the wrong side of history.

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Re: MAGA Off-ramp
Reply #21 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:45am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:31am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:21am:

mothra wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:28am:

I get that they're troglodytes but this kind of sentiment frightens me.

There is always redemption. In fact, throughout the ages, many of the most potent agents of change have been those to walk dark places.

I'd hate to see the Trump fueled zeitgeist go on to punish absolutely anybody more than it already has. He's preyed on the most vulnerable, let's not join ranks.

It's never to late to see the light.

Unless of course Trump gets us all killed ... which looks more likely with every passing day.

Normally, I could shrug off political differences, even when they mean people lose healthcare or the redistribution of wealth feeds the big end of town. Politics is messy, opinions clash, you roll with it.

But this isn't that anymore. The remaining red hats aren't just disagreeing, they're openly defending child abusers. They're applauding extrajudicial killings, masked, unaccountable secret police snatching people from the streets, ignoring constitutional rights, even murdering American citizens. And the unprecedented levels of corruption from the top down, putting the very democracy at risk.

These aren't policy disagreements. This is moral rot. Their humanity is compromised, and they back it willingly.

At this point, it's impossible to look at them and not see the truth: these people are beyond redemption.

Yep. So true.

And ICE Barbie's terrorists have murdered an American citizen in Minneapolis today.

Frank will be celebrating, of course.

The official line is, she was a domestic terrorist...

I'm sure he'll just adopt that line like a good sheep.

Everyone still clinging to MAGA missed their off-ramp. If they haven't woken up by now, they never will.

From this point on, they are fully accountable for whatever consequences their choices bring. They've been willing participants all along, there's no room to play the victim anymore.

When Trump comes after them, there will be zero sympathy.

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Reply #23 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:56am

Leroy wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:50am:

Do you have any firearms in your possession sadroo?.

I know you're trying to rebrand this thread, pretending its purpose is to "make a list" for a shooting spree. That's typical behaviour from you, especially given you're one of the prime suspects who missed the MAGA off-ramp yourself.

But let's be clear, I'm not like you, or people like you, who openly cheer and advocate for violence and killings. Nothing here does that. This is a purely academic exercise about moral responsibility and accountability.

As usual, you're reaching for a grotesque false accusation to avoid engaging with the substance. And, as usual, it'll end up being something else you'll eventually need to apologise for.

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Re: MAGA Off-ramp
Reply #24 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:58am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:56am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:50am:

Do you have any firearms in your possession sadroo?.

I know you're trying to rebrand this thread, pretending its purpose is to "make a list" for a shooting spree. That's typical behaviour from you, especially given you're one of the prime suspects who missed the MAGA off-ramp yourself.

But let's be clear, I'm not like you, or people like you, who openly cheer and advocate for violence and killings. Nothing here does that. This is a purely academic exercise about moral responsibility and accountability.

As usual, you're reaching for a grotesque false accusation to avoid engaging with the substance. And, as usual, it'll end up being something else you'll eventually need to apologise for.

Yeah but are you in possession of firearms.

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Reply #25 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:58am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:31am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:21am:

mothra wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:28am:

I get that they're troglodytes but this kind of sentiment frightens me.

There is always redemption. In fact, throughout the ages, many of the most potent agents of change have been those to walk dark places.

I'd hate to see the Trump fueled zeitgeist go on to punish absolutely anybody more than it already has. He's preyed on the most vulnerable, let's not join ranks.

It's never to late to see the light.

Unless of course Trump gets us all killed ... which looks more likely with every passing day.

Normally, I could shrug off political differences, even when they mean people lose healthcare or the redistribution of wealth feeds the big end of town. Politics is messy, opinions clash, you roll with it.

But this isn't that anymore. The remaining red hats aren't just disagreeing, they're openly defending child abusers. They're applauding extrajudicial killings, masked, unaccountable secret police snatching people from the streets, ignoring constitutional rights, even murdering American citizens. And the unprecedented levels of corruption from the top down, putting the very democracy at risk.

These aren't policy disagreements. This is moral rot. Their humanity is compromised, and they back it willingly.

At this point, it's impossible to look at them and not see the truth: these people are beyond redemption.

Yep. So true.

And ICE Barbie's terrorists have murdered an American citizen in Minneapolis today.

Frank will be celebrating, of course.

The official line is, she was a domestic terrorist...

I'm sure he'll just adopt that line like a good sheep.

Everyone still clinging to MAGA missed their off-ramp. If they haven't woken up by now, they never will.

From this point on, they are fully accountable for whatever consequences their choices bring. They've been willing participants all along, there's no room to play the victim anymore.

When Trump comes after them, there will be zero sympathy.

I hope the ICE officer who shot that woman is placed on administrative duty until the shooting is fully investigated. I also hope that I will win the Lotto one day, but am not holding my breath.

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Re: MAGA Off-ramp
Reply #26 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:07am

Leroy wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:58am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:56am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:50am:

Do you have any firearms in your possession sadroo?.

I know you're trying to rebrand this thread, pretending its purpose is to "make a list" for a shooting spree. That's typical behaviour from you, especially given you're one of the prime suspects who missed the MAGA off-ramp yourself.

But let's be clear, I'm not like you, or people like you, who openly cheer and advocate for violence and killings. Nothing here does that. This is a purely academic exercise about moral responsibility and accountability.

As usual, you're reaching for a grotesque false accusation to avoid engaging with the substance. And, as usual, it'll end up being something else you'll eventually need to apologise for.

Yeah but are you in possession of firearms.

I have 4 legal and registered hunting rifles yes.

I was waiting to see what the proposed buy back scheme would be and what value they'll offer. If it's market value they'd be worth more to me converted to cash.

I recently sold one to a retired police officer in Perth. Even though it was done through a licensed dealer, they just shipped it via Aus Post with the minimum of tracking... The system is broken.

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Reply #27 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:10am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:42am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:25am:

mothra wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:28am:

I get that they're troglodytes but this kind of sentiment frightens me.

There is always redemption. In fact, throughout the ages, many of the most potent agents of change have been those to walk dark places.

I'd hate to see the Trump fueled zeitgeist go on to punish absolutely anybody more than it already has. He's preyed on the most vulnerable, let's not join ranks.

It's never to late to see the light.

Unless of course Trump gets us all killed ... which looks more likely with every passing day.

And who would kill us??

The Chinese? Russians? Mohammedans?

Oh, I know!!! The Americans are goingto kill us all!!!!

You mongs are totally out of what you call your minds.

Ludicrous.

We are living through that exact period, in real time, that schoolchildren studying WW2 look back on, asking how anyone could let Hitler rise and how ordinary Germans could support him.

Future students studying this chapter will ask the same thing: why didn't anyone stop Trump, and how did so many Americans continue to cheer him on?

This is exactly what people mean when they say people like you, Frank, are on the wrong side of history.

Exactly!

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Reply #28 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:12am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:58am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:31am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:21am:

mothra wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:28am:

I get that they're troglodytes but this kind of sentiment frightens me.

There is always redemption. In fact, throughout the ages, many of the most potent agents of change have been those to walk dark places.

I'd hate to see the Trump fueled zeitgeist go on to punish absolutely anybody more than it already has. He's preyed on the most vulnerable, let's not join ranks.

It's never to late to see the light.

Unless of course Trump gets us all killed ... which looks more likely with every passing day.

Normally, I could shrug off political differences, even when they mean people lose healthcare or the redistribution of wealth feeds the big end of town. Politics is messy, opinions clash, you roll with it.

But this isn't that anymore. The remaining red hats aren't just disagreeing, they're openly defending child abusers. They're applauding extrajudicial killings, masked, unaccountable secret police snatching people from the streets, ignoring constitutional rights, even murdering American citizens. And the unprecedented levels of corruption from the top down, putting the very democracy at risk.

These aren't policy disagreements. This is moral rot. Their humanity is compromised, and they back it willingly.

At this point, it's impossible to look at them and not see the truth: these people are beyond redemption.

Yep. So true.

And ICE Barbie's terrorists have murdered an American citizen in Minneapolis today.

Frank will be celebrating, of course.

The official line is, she was a domestic terrorist...

I'm sure he'll just adopt that line like a good sheep.

Everyone still clinging to MAGA missed their off-ramp. If they haven't woken up by now, they never will.

From this point on, they are fully accountable for whatever consequences their choices bring. They've been willing participants all along, there's no room to play the victim anymore.

When Trump comes after them, there will be zero sympathy.

I hope the ICE officer who shot that woman is placed on administrative duty until the shooting is fully investigated. I also hope that I will win the Lotto one day, but am not holding my breath.

I doubt the murderer will be put on leave.

Noem will just let him carry on as if nothing happened.

This is exactly what Trump wants.

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Reply #29 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:13am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:31am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:21am:

mothra wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:28am:

I get that they're troglodytes but this kind of sentiment frightens me.

There is always redemption. In fact, throughout the ages, many of the most potent agents of change have been those to walk dark places.

I'd hate to see the Trump fueled zeitgeist go on to punish absolutely anybody more than it already has. He's preyed on the most vulnerable, let's not join ranks.

It's never to late to see the light.

Unless of course Trump gets us all killed ... which looks more likely with every passing day.

Normally, I could shrug off political differences, even when they mean people lose healthcare or the redistribution of wealth feeds the big end of town. Politics is messy, opinions clash, you roll with it.

But this isn't that anymore. The remaining red hats aren't just disagreeing, they're openly defending child abusers. They're applauding extrajudicial killings, masked, unaccountable secret police snatching people from the streets, ignoring constitutional rights, even murdering American citizens. And the unprecedented levels of corruption from the top down, putting the very democracy at risk.

These aren't policy disagreements. This is moral rot. Their humanity is compromised, and they back it willingly.

At this point, it's impossible to look at them and not see the truth: these people are beyond redemption.

Yep. So true.

And ICE Barbie's terrorists have murdered an American citizen in Minneapolis today.

Frank will be celebrating, of course.

The official line is, she was a domestic terrorist...

I'm sure he'll just adopt that line like a good sheep.

Everyone still clinging to MAGA missed their off-ramp. If they haven't woken up by now, they never will.

From this point on, they are fully accountable for whatever consequences their choices bring. They've been willing participants all along, there's no room to play the victim anymore.

When Trump comes after them, there will be zero sympathy.

Trump is already lying by saying that the murdered woman ran over the ICE terrorist.

No such thing happened. Not even close.

Frank will lap it up though.

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