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Re: Greenland
Reply #30 - Jan 17th, 2026 at 10:56am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2026 at 8:12am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17th, 2026 at 6:57am:
MattE wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:52pm:
There is nothing Greenland or Denmark can do.

Even with the NATO deployment to Greenland, the United States Space Force base in Greenland has more personnel posted to it.

If the United States wanted to, it could declare Greenland a part of the United States and it would become part of the United States.


That's correct.

What the geriatric rapist & convicted felon in the White House is doing is ridiculous, and totally unnecessary, but if he really wants Greenland there's nothing that can stop him.



Trumps illegal action in Venezuela is likely part of this Greenland potential invasion. With the armed forces willingly taking illegal orders in smaller actions would likely prepare the way for them to take more meaningful illegal orders, like an illegal invasion.


True, but I don't think it will come to that.

I think they'll just hand it over without a single shot being fired.
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Reply #31 - Jan 17th, 2026 at 11:44am
 
On 30 June 1940, Inspector Sculpher of the Guernsey Island police went to the airport carrying a letter signed by the bailiff stating that "This Island has been declared an Open Island by His Majesty's Government of the United Kingdom. There are no armed forces of any description." He found that the airport had been taken over by the Luftwaffe... Lanz announced through an interpreter that Guernsey was now under German occupation'.

There was no fighting in the Channel Islands.
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Reply #32 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 12:01am
 
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"Since 'Greenland' is showing up at the outrage party again, here's my take:
Greenland Is the Arctic Chessboard
Pay attention. This isn't noise. This isn't theater.
When Denmark and Greenland send envoys to the White House, then immediately route them to Marco Rubio, you're watching strategic execution, not speculation. That sequence signals intent, alignment, and a directive already in motion.
This is textbook Trump doctrine: apply quiet leverage, layer strategic pressure, then claim public resolve when the outcome is inevitable.
Why Greenland Matters (And Why Now)
Greenland isn't real estate. It's the fulcrum of 21st-century dominance.
What's at stake:
- Arctic control: Shipping lanes, missile defense positioning, and forward operating reach
- Energy security: Rare earth minerals, oil reserves, and resource independence
- Geopolitical chokepoint: Blocking Russian and Chinese Arctic expansion before they lock down the North Atlantic corridor
Whoever controls Greenland controls the high ground for the next century. Russia knows it. China knows it. That's why they're already responding with fury.
The Strategic Shift
For decades, America debated while adversaries moved. Trump inverts that model: move first, explain second, own the narrative last.
If this deal closes, the global chessboard redraws overnight:
- NATO security architecture hardens at the northern flank
- Chinese Belt and Road expansion hits a structural wall
- Russian Arctic ambitions shrink under U.S. forward presence
Why This Transcends Party Lines (If We Let It)
Here's what matters: this isn't a red-or-blue issue. This is an American strategic advantage that serves core priorities both parties claim to care about.
For those who prioritize national security and military strength:
Greenland gives the U.S. unmatched Arctic positioning, forward defense capability, and a permanent check on Russian and Chinese expansion. It's hard power. It's deterrence. It's exactly what "peace through strength" looks like in practice.
For those who prioritize climate leadership and clean energy:
Rare earth minerals are the backbone of renewable energy infrastructure: solar panels, wind turbines, and electric vehicle batteries. Right now, China controls 80% of global rare earth processing. Greenland changes that equation overnight. Securing those resources means we can build the green economy without being held hostage by adversarial supply chains.
For those who care about economic security and jobs:
Resource independence means American manufacturing, American jobs, and leverage over global supply chains. It means we stop importing what we could be producing. It means economic sovereignty, not dependence.
For those focused on diplomacy and alliances:
This isn't a conquest. It's a negotiation with a NATO ally. Done right, it strengthens the alliance, compensates Denmark fairly, respects Greenlandic autonomy, and creates a model for strategic cooperation that doesn't rely on coercion.
The Real Contradiction Isn't Left vs. Right
The contradiction is this: we fight each other over the aesthetics of leadership while ignoring whether the underlying strategy actually serves the country.
If a Democratic administration pursued Arctic resource security, NATO hardening, and rare-earth independence through diplomatic acquisition, the policy would be sound. The execution details would matter. The terms would matter. But the strategic logic would hold.
If a Republican administration does the same thing, the same logic applies.
The question isn't who proposed it. The question is whether it strengthens America's position for the next 50 years.
Right now, we are so divided over who is leading that we've stopped asking where we're being led and whether it's the right direction.
What Makes This Actually Good for the American People
Here's the test: Does this make us safer, more prosperous, and more resilient in a world where adversaries are moving faster than we are?
Yes.
- It secures the Arctic before Russia and China lock it down.
- It removes a critical supply chain vulnerability in rare earth minerals.
- It creates a forward defense perimeter that protects the homeland.
- It generates long-term economic value through resource development and strategic positioning.
This isn't imperialism. It's not recklessness. It's forward-thinking statecraft in a world where hesitation costs more than action.
The Division Is a Choice
We can fight about Trump's tone. We can argue about whether this feels right based on partisan reflex.
Or we can look at the chessboard, assess the stakes, and ask whether this move strengthens the country regardless of who made it.
The Arctic is being claimed right now. If we don't move, someone else will. And when they do, we'll spend the next century managing the consequences of our inaction.
This is one of those rare moments where the strategic interest aligns across ideological lines. The only thing stopping us from seeing it clearly is the noise we've created around everything else."
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Reply #33 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:58am
 
The weakness is that Siberia remains next to Alaska. Nearby is North Korea, backed by China. And Afghanistan. Iran. Yemen. Somalia. Good grief, the whole thing is going to hell in a basket.
And what's between Alaska and Greenland? That's right, them. The Kevin Rudd mob. The Limeys.
We invade at dawn.
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Reply #34 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:40am
 
Will Americans wake up one day and realise that Trump is actually insane?  Undecided
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Reply #35 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:50am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:40am:
Will Americans wake up one day and realise that Trump is actually insane?  Undecided


Half the country already knows that, but the other half are taking a long time to figure it out.

Slowly but surely the realisation is coming to them though.

He truly is insane, and dementia is just making things worse.



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Reply #36 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 1:43pm
 
First arrest made

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Reply #37 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:29pm
 
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Today and yesterday, several countries sent their troops to help Greenland, namely:

🟠France - 15 troops.
🟠Germany - 13 troops.
🟠Sweden - 3 troops.
🟠Norway - 2 troops.
🟠Finland - 2 troops.
🟠United Kingdom - 1 troops.
🟠Netherlands - 1 troops.


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Re: Greenland
Reply #38 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:55pm
 
What does America offer Greenland that Denmark can't.

When to comes to security then America has more to offer, like 1500% more to offer, not 50% but 1500%.

When it come to commerce then America has a bigger economy thats over 75 times the size of Denmark.

Denmark is very confusing, on one hand they say they will never give up Greenland but at the same time say that Greenland can make its own determination.

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Reply #39 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:13pm
 
tallowood wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:29pm:
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Today and yesterday, several countries sent their troops to help Greenland, namely:

🟠France - 15 troops.
🟠Germany - 13 troops.
🟠Sweden - 3 troops.
🟠Norway - 2 troops.
🟠Finland - 2 troops.
🟠United Kingdom - 1 troops.
🟠Netherlands - 1 troops.



This NATO force is not there to fight. It is to make Trump think seriously about taking military action that could cause casualties among these allied troops and where that would lead. The thing is, Trumps thinking is ridiculous. The US has had bases in Greenland previously and a bit of diplomacy could have seen the early warning system previously in place expanded. Instead we have threats to invade allied territory that help no one except China and Russia.

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Reply #40 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:22pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:13pm:
tallowood wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:29pm:
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Today and yesterday, several countries sent their troops to help Greenland, namely:

🟠France - 15 troops.
🟠Germany - 13 troops.
🟠Sweden - 3 troops.
🟠Norway - 2 troops.
🟠Finland - 2 troops.
🟠United Kingdom - 1 troops.
🟠Netherlands - 1 troops.



This NATO force is not there to fight. It is to make Trump think seriously about taking military action that could cause casualties among these allied troops and where that would lead. The thing is, Trumps thinking is ridiculous. The US has had bases in Greenland previously and a bit of diplomacy could have seen the early warning system previously in place expanded. Instead we have threats to invade allied territory that help no one except China and Russia.



A question remains though, what is the purpose of Greenland being governed by Denmark. American military is for the protection of Americans, why should the taxpayers of America foot the bill to protect Greenland whilst the Danes contribute nothing worthwhile. Trump has a point, disagree with him but why can't these questions be answered without total meltdowns.


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Reply #41 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:25pm
 
Greenland is HUGE especially on a flat map. With Canada, Trump will have 22mill sq kms where little Vlad Putin only has 17mill. He  has to sign up for peace in Ukraine. (and Venezuela too , we win so much)
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Reply #42 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:30pm
 
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This NATO force is not there to fight.


It is not NATO force unless it was authorized by NATO command.

If they are not there to fight they can be safely ignored.
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Reply #43 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:33pm
 
The diplomatic result is that US is an enemy state of EU.
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Reply #44 - Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:40pm
 
The WOKE infected EU are enemies of common sense.
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