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Jan 6th, 2026 at 6:48pm
 
Who decides what direction Greenland could/will/should take.

Is it up to the people of Greenland or is it up to the people of Denmark.

If you have a national votes including both countries then the Danes have 100 votes to Greenlanders 1 vote. So Greenlanders only account for 1% of the population and 1% of the vote. If you only have Greenlanders vote then it could get messy as you only need 30,000 votes to change course. The prodding from Trump could see Denmark unsettle the Greenlanders with its entitlement. Does it come down to what Greenlanders want or what Denmark wants.
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Reply #1 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 6:59pm
 
Land title flowed from the monarch in Denmark. He can resume land by signing a Bill. The issue is whether Trump's pen is bigger than the king's.
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Reply #2 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 7:08pm
 
chimera wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 6:59pm:
Land title flowed from the monarch in Denmark. He can resume land by signing a Bill. The issue is whether Trump's pen is bigger than the king's.


I think the issue is bigger than that, in a democratic environment do the people of Greenland have the ability to choose or does Denmark have to the power to decide for them. Do other European countries honor the will of Greenlanders or do they align with Denmark's ownership. Of course this can only happen if Greenlanders entertain the prospect of joining America.
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Reply #3 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 7:28pm
 
These things are usually decided by a majority vote overall, with drinks in the ship ward-room and the loser put to bed drunk. The US vote is :
Standard Missiles: Over 10,000 combined  9,100 SM-2. 400 SM-3. 1,500 SM-6.
Tomahawk : Around 4,150.
Denmark votes one or two Mk 41 and Mk 48 vertical launch systems, primarily using RIM-162 ESSM for air defense against missiles, aircraft, and drones. Denmark is in the process of acquiring three ESSM Block 2 missiles and also utilizes the SM-2 surface-to-air missile.
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Reply #4 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 7:33pm
 
chimera wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 7:28pm:
These things are usually decided by a majority vote overall, with drinks in the ship ward-room and the loser put to bed drunk. The US vote is :
Standard Missiles: Over 10,000 combined  9,100 SM-2. 400 SM-3. 1,500 SM-6.
Tomahawk : Around 4,150.
Denmark has one or two Mk 41 and Mk 48 vertical launch systems, primarily using RIM-162 ESSM for air defense against missiles, aircraft, and drones. Denmark is in the process of acquiring three ESSM Block 2 missiles and also utilizes the SM-2 surface-to-air missile.


Missile count is not important, America used more aircraft in capturing Maduro than Denmark has in total. Denmarks ability to defend Greenland is NATO, not themselves. Greenlands defense relies on Denmark which relies on the US.

America have something to sell Greenland just by them cutting Denmark out of the loop. In reality Greenland depends on America for protection already. Do America have the right to address this situation.
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Reply #5 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 7:42pm
 
Trump relies on the US to defend Greenland which has 28 planes including 1 Airbus. Denmark can rely on the US Navy which has a treaty with Maduro on a Caribbean cruise holiday. (The US is half of NATO, probably the NA part).
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Reply #6 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:07pm
 
The Americans could just buy it.
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Reply #7 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:15pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
The Americans could just buy it.


I suppose that's what I hinted at with the 30,000 votes required.
$7-14 billion could do that.
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Reply #8 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:42pm
 
'Queen Liliʻuokalani was Hawaii's last monarch, overthrown in 1893 by a coup supported by U.S. businessmen and U.S. Navy forces from the USS Boston, who landed troops to protect American interests, leading to the establishment of a provisional government and eventual U.S. annexation in 1898. The Queen peacefully surrendered to avoid bloodshed but protested the illegal overthrow, spending her later years advocating for Hawaiian rights and sovereignty, with the U.S. Congress issuing a formal apology for the overthrow in 1993.'
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Reply #9 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:42pm
 
I mean pay off Denmark. It's how the USA got a lot of its territory.
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Reply #10 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:48pm
 
'The U.S. captured Guam in a swift and bloodless engagement in June 1898, during the Spanish-American War. The Spanish garrison, unaware that a state of war existed, mistook the American ship's initial cannon fire for a ceremonial salute and surrendered without resistance.'

'United States occupation of Haiti began on July 28, 1915, when 330 U.S. Marines landed at Port-au-Prince, Haiti, after the National City Bank of New York (now Citibank) convinced U.S. President Woodrow Wilson to take control of the country's political and financial interests.'

At that time, Germany was controlling part of France's political interests.
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Reply #11 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:15pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
The Americans could just buy it.

Oh, but you can't just trade 60,000 Eskimos any more.

Denmark will manage Greenland jointly with the US. It is already happening. China will be kept out one way or another - that's the long and the short of it.

It's about China, not Greenland (population = Wagga Wagga)
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Reply #12 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:34pm
 
America might just make up a story and invade.
It’s  all been done before-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
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Reply #13 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:44pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:34pm:
America might just make up a story and invade.
It’s  all been done before-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

Well America DID defend Greenland from the Nazis when Denmark was occupied by Germany, Was that an 'invasion' by America?


Now America wants to protect Greenland from the red nazis of China. Denmark is not doing it, nor the EU.

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Reply #14 - Jan 7th, 2026 at 6:28am
 
Yes an invasion during war. Is Trump now fighting from Greenland against Putin?

The US is pushing its power onto Canada which is separating from the old dominance. Canada will link with Oz and claim sovereignty, in a loop of Greenland : Canada : US control.

'The mercurial and toxic American administration is forcing Canada to reconsider its security situation in general, and in the Far North specifically. With overt threats of annexation (economic or military) of Greenland and Canada for “security” reasons, Canada must now consider these issues without a historic, traditional American partner, and possibly in contradiction to American wishes'.
https://canadiandefencereview.com/canadian-sovereignty-is-on-thin-ice-arctic-sov...
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