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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #210 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 1:51pm

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 1:09pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 12:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 12:28pm:

Idiotic, not to says TDS on steroids, just as we have come to expect from you loons.

What part of what I said isn't true?

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Now WHATEVER the US and in particular TRUMP does is a distraction from the Epstein docs. It is your and gweggy skunk pig's and paki trouser sniffer's bee in your TDS bonnet and SO the whole of the US should do nuffin' but attend to your mania.

Did the two events happen on the same day?

Did Trump's team not honour the 15-day deadline?

Has he released the full unredacted Epstein files?

The requirement is signed into law, HE signed it into law. Why is he not complying with his law?

Is the subject of the Epstein files now out of the new cycle?

Or is it just a coincidence that both events happened on the same day, totally out of Trump's control?

It was long predicted that Trump would initiate some sort of military action to avoid having to release the Epstein files, even on here, and sure enough...

In what way did the Military operation impact the work of the DOJ?

No government of ANY kind would release documents without reviewing them for public release (which is different to ransferring documents between departments and courts). No government is like Wikileaks.

They had 15 days to explain why they failed to release the files, as required under the very law Trump himself signed.

It was that statutory requirement, not the physical release of the files, that fell due on 3 January.

He had already blown past the 19 December deadline to release the unredacted files in full.

That is what was knocked out of the headlines, the legally required explanation for why Trump's name was removed from the released material and why search results were deliberately altered to exclude "Trump". And yet, through sheer incompetence, searches for "Trump " with a trailing space, " Trump" with a leading space, or even "Trump." still returned hundreds upon hundreds of hits even though "Trump" returned zero.

Whoose, caught red handed!

Even the redactions themselves were bungled. In multiple instances, the text was merely obscured with a black box rather than properly removed, meaning the underlying text could still be highlighted and revealed.

Something that would be funny if it weren't so serious. One possibility is that DOGE cost cutting stripped agencies of proper Adobe PDF Pro tools. Another is malicious compliance by an FBI ordered to conceal Trump's involvement while ensuring the concealment was as sloppy as possible.

Rather than comply with the law he signed and explain any of this, suddenly there is a far bigger story dominating the headlines.

You really think that's a coincidence?

Or are you suggesting Trump isn't actually in control of the military and didn't order the strike, that someone else is calling the shots?

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There are millions of pages, apparently. There are court orders to protect victim identities.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4405/text

They claimed they had all the files back in February last year. Now, conveniently, they've "found" another million-plus pages?

You don't find a million pages down the back of the couch. That isn't discovery, it's delay. Delay dressed up as diligence, suppression wrapped in bureaucracy.

And every extra tranche conveniently resets the clock, muddies the waters, and gives cover for yet more redactions, excuses, and process theatre. Funny how completeness is always announced after a deadline is missed, never before.

It's starting to look less like incompetence and more like strategy.

Which makes your posture here interesting. It's almost as if you don't want the unredacted files released at all. Every objection, every deflection, every sudden appeal to patience serves the same outcome, no transparency, no accountability.

So I'll ask plainly.

Who are you protecting?

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #211 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 1:53pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 1:51pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 1:09pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 12:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 12:28pm:

Idiotic, not to says TDS on steroids, just as we have come to expect from you loons.

What part of what I said isn't true?

Quote:

Now WHATEVER the US and in particular TRUMP does is a distraction from the Epstein docs. It is your and gweggy skunk pig's and paki trouser sniffer's bee in your TDS bonnet and SO the whole of the US should do nuffin' but attend to your mania.

Did the two events happen on the same day?

Did Trump's team not honour the 15-day deadline?

Has he released the full unredacted Epstein files?

The requirement is signed into law, HE signed it into law. Why is he not complying with his law?

Is the subject of the Epstein files now out of the new cycle?

Or is it just a coincidence that both events happened on the same day, totally out of Trump's control?

It was long predicted that Trump would initiate some sort of military action to avoid having to release the Epstein files, even on here, and sure enough...

In what way did the Military operation impact the work of the DOJ?

No government of ANY kind would release documents without reviewing them for public release (which is different to ransferring documents between departments and courts). No government is like Wikileaks.

They had 15 days to explain why they failed to release the files, as required under the very law Trump himself signed.

It was that statutory requirement, not the physical release of the files, that fell due on 3 January.

He had already blown past the 19 December deadline to release the unredacted files in full.

That is what was knocked out of the headlines, the legally required explanation for why Trump's name was removed from the released material and why search results were deliberately altered to exclude "Trump". And yet, through sheer incompetence, searches for "Trump " with a trailing space, " Trump" with a leading space, or even "Trump." still returned hundreds upon hundreds of hits even though "Trump" returned zero.

Whoose, caught red handed!

Even the redactions themselves were bungled. In multiple instances, the text was merely obscured with a black box rather than properly removed, meaning the underlying text could still be highlighted and revealed.

Something that would be funny if it weren't so serious. One possibility is that DOGE cost cutting stripped agencies of proper Adobe PDF Pro tools. Another is malicious compliance by an FBI ordered to conceal Trump's involvement while ensuring the concealment was as sloppy as possible.

Rather than comply with the law he signed and explain any of this, suddenly there is a far bigger story dominating the headlines.

You really think that's a coincidence?

Or are you suggesting Trump isn't actually in control of the military and didn't order the strike, that someone else is calling the shots?

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There are millions of pages, apparently. There are court orders to protect victim identities.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4405/text

They claimed they had all the files back in February last year. Now, conveniently, they've "found" another million-plus pages?

You don't find a million pages down the back of the couch. That isn't discovery, it's delay. Delay dressed up as diligence, suppression wrapped in bureaucracy.

And every extra tranche conveniently resets the clock, muddies the waters, and gives cover for yet more redactions, excuses, and process theatre. Funny how completeness is always announced after a deadline is missed, never before.

It's starting to look less like incompetence and more like strategy.

Which makes your posture here interesting. It's almost as if you don't want the unredacted files released at all. Every objection, every deflection, every sudden appeal to patience serves the same outcome, no transparency, no accountability.

So I'll ask plainly.

Who are you protecting?

You are either lying or you are an incompetent moron or both.

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And yet, through sheer incompetence, searches for "Trump " with a trailing space, " Trump" with a leading space, or even "Trump." still returned hundreds upon hundreds of hits even though "Trump" returned zero.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #212 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 2:11pm

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 1:53pm:

You are either lying or you are an incompetent moron or both.

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And yet, through sheer incompetence, searches for "Trump " with a trailing space, " Trump" with a leading space, or even "Trump." still returned hundreds upon hundreds of hits even though "Trump" returned zero.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein

So you're saying that never happened?

Care to make a wager on that, say, you'll leave the forum forever if it turns out you're either lying or you are an incompetent moron, or both, and searches for "Trump" returned "no results" but "Trump " did?

They've fixed it now, but only after being caught red-handed.

So, care to take me up on that offer?

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #213 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 2:26pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 2:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 1:53pm:

You are either lying or you are an incompetent moron or both.

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And yet, through sheer incompetence, searches for "Trump " with a trailing space, " Trump" with a leading space, or even "Trump." still returned hundreds upon hundreds of hits even though "Trump" returned zero.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein

So you're saying that never happened?

Care to make a wager on that, say, you'll leave the forum forever if it turns out you're either lying or you are an incompetent moron, or both, and searches for "Trump" returned "no results" but "Trump " did?

Why would anyone bet with a leftist in this forum.

Pecca made a bet with Bias that he would leave this forum forever if Trump won aganist Hillary.

Leftists never pay up when they lose they have no honour

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #214 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 2:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 12:20pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 12:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 11:49am:

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Yes, that's what Lindsay says.

You know, Lindsay Graham, the guy who said never ever to US foreign intervention, blood for oil and endless wars.

He tried blaming drugs, but DL slapped him down.

It's not about drugs anymore, DL said, that was just for fun. It's about the oil, you fool.

DL, if you remember, promised to obey the oil companies if they gave $1 bil to his superpac.

Now he's in, he'll be asking US taxpayers to foot the bill to rebuild Venezuela's oil wells for Texaco and Chevron.

What do you think Congress will say to that, Bobby?

Excuse me, can I please have $30 bil to build new wells, ports and infrastructure in, er, Venezuela?

Cheers.

Congress might say no -

Venezuela is too risky for any company to invest in. Embarrassed

But of course. What oil company's going to start a ten year construction project, knowing full well the next administration will pull out in 2029?

This is a deliberate campaign of Epstein Epstein Epstein distraction. Uncle's not going to drill any oil in Venezuela, not a barrel.

Of course, we won't put it past your DL to pretend he's sending the US military in to DRILL BABY DRILL.

He had them down at the border at one point BUILDING THE WALL, do you recall?

Now he's pretending the US military is responsible for bringing down the DC crime rate after he sent them in there.

DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!

In reality, all US troops did at the border was set up camp until the 2018 mid-terms and return home.

All they've been doing in Washington is chilling out, looking at their phones and vaping.

You?

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #215 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 3:05pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 2:26pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 2:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 1:53pm:

You are either lying or you are an incompetent moron or both.

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And yet, through sheer incompetence, searches for "Trump " with a trailing space, " Trump" with a leading space, or even "Trump." still returned hundreds upon hundreds of hits even though "Trump" returned zero.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein

So you're saying that never happened?

Care to make a wager on that, say, you'll leave the forum forever if it turns out you're either lying or you are an incompetent moron, or both, and searches for "Trump" returned "no results" but "Trump " did?

Why would anyone bet with a leftist in this forum.

Pecca made a bet with Bias that he would leave this forum forever if Trump won aganist Hillary.

Leftists never pay up when they lose they have no honour

The wager itself is beside the point. The truth matters regardless of whether Frank has any honour at all. We know the answer to that.

I have screenshots from the day of release because I tested this myself. There were reports all over the internet at the time, you only had to bother looking and you'll find corroboration.

Initially, I assumed it might be a mundane technical issue, perhaps the database was still populating and search results were incomplete or unreliable.

But that explanation collapses the moment you notice this, searching for “Trump” returned nothing, yet “Trump ” did.

That does not happen accidentally.

Unless, of course, you have implemented a specific rule to suppress exact matches for “Trump” without using a proper contains match. In that scenario, results for “Trump” would be hidden, while “Trump ”, “ Trump”, and “Trump.” etc would still return hits.

And sure enough, that is exactly what we saw.

“Trump”

“Trump ”

So at first, you could not search for “Trump” at all, but you could search for trivial variants of it.

Was that deliberate? The most likely explanation is yes. There is no credible alternative.

Once this behaviour started being publicly reported, and once it became inconvenient in light of the statutory requirement that the files be searchable, the behaviour was quietly changed. Suddenly, you could search for "Trump" again, after they were caught red-handed.

But even now, the numbers don’t add up. Instead of the original 600+ results, today it shows roughly 330.

Some documents have disappeared since the initial release as well, including ones that contained photographs of Trump. Nothing sensational or incriminating, in fact some were photos we have all seen before, but they slipped through unredacted in the first release and are now gone.

All of this, the selective redactions, the missing documents, the manipulated search behaviour, was legally required to be explained to Congress by the 3rd of January. That is not optional, it is a statutory requirement of the law.

Instead, Trump bombed Venezuela, kidnapped the President and his wife, and justified it using indictments from the same court he previously declared corrupt when those indictments targeted him.

And still, his administration has failed to provide the legally required explanations to Congress.

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #216 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 3:22pm

Big Donger wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 12:20pm:

Congress might say no -

Venezuela is too risky for any company to invest in. Embarrassed

But of course. What oil company's going to start a ten year construction project, knowing full well the next administration will pull out in 2029?

This is a deliberate campaign of Epstein Epstein Epstein distraction. Uncle's not going to drill any oil in Venezuela, not a barrel.

Of course, we won't put it past your DL to pretend he's sending the US military in to DRILL BABY DRILL.

He had them down at the border at one point BUILDING THE WALL, do you recall?

Now he's pretending the US military is responsible for bringing down the DC crime rate after he sent them in there.

DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!

In reality, all US troops did at the border was set up camp until the 2018 mid-terms and return home.

All they've been doing in Washington is chilling out, looking at their phones and vaping.

You?

Dear Karnal,
many blessings.

It seems you are very cynical about our DL?

If the Yanky oil companies move in and take out lots of oil -

will you leave this forum?

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #217 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 3:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 3:22pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 12:20pm:

Congress might say no -

Venezuela is too risky for any company to invest in. Embarrassed

But of course. What oil company's going to start a ten year construction project, knowing full well the next administration will pull out in 2029?

This is a deliberate campaign of Epstein Epstein Epstein distraction. Uncle's not going to drill any oil in Venezuela, not a barrel.

Of course, we won't put it past your DL to pretend he's sending the US military in to DRILL BABY DRILL.

He had them down at the border at one point BUILDING THE WALL, do you recall?

Now he's pretending the US military is responsible for bringing down the DC crime rate after he sent them in there.

DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!

In reality, all US troops did at the border was set up camp until the 2018 mid-terms and return home.

All they've been doing in Washington is chilling out, looking at their phones and vaping.

You?

Dear Karnal,
many blessings.

It seems you are very cynical about our DL?

If the Yanky oil companies move in and take out lots of oil -

will you leave this forum?

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