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Reply #180 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:41pm:

Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

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Reply #181 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:09am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:41pm:

Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Why not.
Are NATO going to stop him?
And for global security, do you just want China and Russia running the who Arctic region?.
Trump sees the countries near him as having to fall in line.
No different to how it's always been.

I'm sure the most powerful aboriginal tribe 10,000 years ago saw neighbouring tribes as needing to fall into line.

NATO and the UN are flaccid.
One has to admire donnys potency

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #182 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:14am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:41pm:

Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Why not.
Are NATO going to stop him?
And for global security, do you just want China and Russia running the who Arctic region?.
Trump sees the countries near him as having to fall in line.
No different to how it's always been.

I'm sure the most powerful aboriginal tribe 10,000 years ago saw neighbouring tribes as needing to fall into line.

NATO and the UN are flaccid.
One has to admire donnys potency

Yep - Trump is not going to be pushed around by tin pot dictators or anyone else.

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SadKangaroo

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #184 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:59am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:41pm:

Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Why not.
Are NATO going to stop him?
And for global security, do you just want China and Russia running the who Arctic region?.

Trump doing this would effectively detonate the post-war global security architecture.

The United States would cease to be a credible ally to anyone. NATO would either collapse outright or be forced into the unthinkable position of deploying troops to deter or resist a US invasion, and even that would only underline the point, NATO without the US is no longer the alliance it was.

The rest of the world would adapt quickly and ruthlessly. New alliances would form that deliberately exclude Washington. Trade relationships would be re-engineered to minimise exposure to an erratic and openly predatory United States. Trust, once broken at that scale, does not quietly return, even if Trump is impeached in a post-midterm reshuffle.

What follows would be a period of profound global destabilisation, economically, militarily, and diplomatically. And all of it would be laid squarely at Trump's feet, enthusiastically applauded by people like you who either don't understand the consequences or simply don't care so long as the people they hate are hurting or they can have their lulz.

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Reply #185 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:10am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:41pm:

Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Why not.
Are NATO going to stop him?
And for global security, do you just want China and Russia running the who Arctic region?.

Trump doing this would effectively detonate the post-war global security architecture.

The European 'security architecture' is entirely dependent on the US.

There are almost 100,000 US troops in Europe. By comparison, the entire German military is about 70,000 strong.
They are not going to war over Greenland. That is YOUR wet dream.

The US and Denmark and the EU will negotiate a greater US access to Greenland and an iron clad exclusion of Russia and China.

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #186 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:55am

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:16pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:41pm:

Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Well, the US defended Greenland against Nazi Germany when Denmark and Norway were occupied.

The US has a military presence in cooperation with Denmark (not NATO).

China is interested in Greenland for its natural resources. As is the EU for the same reason. The EU relies on China for rare earth needed for the European defence industry.

The US will not invade Greenland militariy as long as China is kept away. The moment Greenland or Denmark opens the door to China the US will seize Greenland. But that scenario (Greenland or Denmark preferencing China over the US) is very unlikely although not impossible.

The Greenland issue is brought to you by the words 'strategic' and 'competition' and the number 57,000 (the popuation of Greenland and Wagga Wagga).

Right. We'll ask again.

Do you, old boy, support your DL invading Greenland?

Second go. A simple yes or no will suffice.

Third and last time. Do you, old boy, support your DL invading Greenland?

One last chance you express your views to the leftards here. After that, we'll be be telling you.

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #187 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:59am

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:10am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:41pm:

Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Why not.
Are NATO going to stop him?
And for global security, do you just want China and Russia running the who Arctic region?.

Trump doing this would effectively detonate the post-war global security architecture.

The European 'security architecture' is entirely dependent on the US.

There are almost 100,000 US troops in Europe. By comparison, the entire German military is about 70,000 strong.
They are not going to war over Greenland. That is YOUR wet dream.

The US and Denmark and the EU will negotiate a greater US access to Greenland and an iron clad exclusion of Russia and China.

My "wet dream" would be Trump stopping his crusade to destabilise the world.

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #188 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:05am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:41pm:

Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Why not.
Are NATO going to stop him?
And for global security, do you just want China and Russia running the who Arctic region?.

Trump doing this would effectively detonate the post-war global security architecture.

The United States would cease to be a credible ally to anyone. NATO would either collapse outright or be forced into the unthinkable position of deploying troops to deter or resist a US invasion, and even that would only underline the point, NATO without the US is no longer the alliance it was.

The rest of the world would adapt quickly and ruthlessly. New alliances would form that deliberately exclude Washington. Trade relationships would be re-engineered to minimise exposure to an erratic and openly predatory United States. Trust, once broken at that scale, does not quietly return, even if Trump is impeached in a post-midterm reshuffle.

What follows would be a period of profound global destabilisation, economically, militarily, and diplomatically. And all of it would be laid squarely at Trump's feet, enthusiastically applauded by people like you who either don't understand the consequences or simply don't care so long as the people they hate are hurting or they can have their lulz.

The Brits have already ceased all intelligence sharing in the Caribbean over Trump and Hegseth blowing up boats in the waters there, concerned about the legalities of what the Americans are doing there. Such action by the Brits is unprecedented.

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #189 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:06am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:59am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:10am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:41pm:

Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Why not.
Are NATO going to stop him?
And for global security, do you just want China and Russia running the who Arctic region?.

Trump doing this would effectively detonate the post-war global security architecture.

The European 'security architecture' is entirely dependent on the US.

There are almost 100,000 US troops in Europe. By comparison, the entire German military is about 70,000 strong.
They are not going to war over Greenland. That is YOUR wet dream.

The US and Denmark and the EU will negotiate a greater US access to Greenland and an iron clad exclusion of Russia and China.

My "wet dream" would be Trump stopping his crusade to destabilise the world.

We all know what Frank's wet dreams about. Hint: starts with T, ends with P.

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #190 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:17am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:14am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

[quote author=Karnal link=1767429739/174#174 date=1767775278]Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Why not.
Are NATO going to stop him?
And for global security, do you just want China and Russia running the who Arctic region?.
Trump sees the countries near him as having to fall in line.
No different to how it's always been.

I'm sure the most powerful aboriginal tribe 10,000 years ago saw neighbouring tribes as needing to fall into line.

NATO and the UN are flaccid.
One has to admire donnys potency

One has to question it, actually, what is the DL going to get that he doesn't have already? Can I suggest easy access to mineral wealth?

Quote:

Yep - Trump is not going to be pushed around by tin pot dictators or anyone else.

Even it they are directly allied to Washington? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using posting to the general forum now. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #191 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:21am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:59am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:10am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:41pm:

Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Why not.
Are NATO going to stop him?
And for global security, do you just want China and Russia running the who Arctic region?.

Trump doing this would effectively detonate the post-war global security architecture.

The European 'security architecture' is entirely dependent on the US.

There are almost 100,000 US troops in Europe. By comparison, the entire German military is about 70,000 strong.
They are not going to war over Greenland. That is YOUR wet dream.

The US and Denmark and the EU will negotiate a greater US access to Greenland and an iron clad exclusion of Russia and China.

My "wet dream" would be Trump stopping his crusade to destabilise the world.

The problem is China is the one nation which has the potential to usurp global hegemony from the US.

In the absence of a functional rules-based system, it's 'might is right'.

Meaning the real contest is between Chinese and US technocrats, hence Trump's efforts to destabilize the status quo, as China steadily advances.

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #192 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:25am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:06am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 9:59am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 7:10am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:41pm:

Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Why not.
Are NATO going to stop him?
And for global security, do you just want China and Russia running the who Arctic region?.

Trump doing this would effectively detonate the post-war global security architecture.

The European 'security architecture' is entirely dependent on the US.

There are almost 100,000 US troops in Europe. By comparison, the entire German military is about 70,000 strong.
They are not going to war over Greenland. That is YOUR wet dream.

The US and Denmark and the EU will negotiate a greater US access to Greenland and an iron clad exclusion of Russia and China.

My "wet dream" would be Trump stopping his crusade to destabilise the world.

We all know what Frank's wet dreams about. Hint: starts with T, ends with P.

No no, Frank likes Danish Armchair. He's a most patriotic Dane. His heart belongs to Mette.

If what you were saying is true, Frank would be the most devious traitor we've ever had on this board. Such treachery is unheard of - utterly unthinkable.

We'll give Frank one last chance to answer the question before jumping to any rash conclusions.

I do feel we owe a fellow member the right to respond.

You?

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Re: Venezuela…..
Reply #193 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:31am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:17am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:14am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 6:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 5:27am:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

[quote author=Karnal link=1767429739/174#174 date=1767775278]Hi again, Frank.

A question if we may: do you support your DL invading Greenland?

Cheers.

Is he invading already?

Nahh - he's gunna make a deal.

A deal for what?

Bust in, take out Mette and leave the Social Democrats in power?

That could work.

Look - when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything:

kidnap a foreign leader,

bomb nuclear sites in a foreign country,

annex a country cause you've gotta have it.

Why not.
Are NATO going to stop him?
And for global security, do you just want China and Russia running the who Arctic region?.
Trump sees the countries near him as having to fall in line.
No different to how it's always been.

I'm sure the most powerful aboriginal tribe 10,000 years ago saw neighbouring tribes as needing to fall into line.

NATO and the UN are flaccid.
One has to admire donnys potency

One has to question it, actually, what is the DL going to get that he doesn't have already? Can I suggest easy access to mineral wealth?

Quote:

Yep - Trump is not going to be pushed around by tin pot dictators or anyone else.

Even it they are directly allied to Washington? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Greenland has offered more military bases, more mineral exploration, the lot.

This is not about security or rare earth. It's about DL procuring real estate and destroying the post-war rules-based order, as every schoolboy knows.

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Reply #194 - Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:58am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8^th, 2026 at 10:21am:

The problem is China is the one nation which has the potential to usurp global hegemony from the US.

In the absence of a functional rules-based system, it's 'might is right'.

Meaning the real contest is between Chinese and US technocrats, hence Trump's efforts to destabilize the status quo, as China steadily advances.

The way Trump is going about it is destroying the power base of the US, both internationally and domestically.

The US won't be able to go toe to toe with China if Trump forces a conflict, not alone, not unless we go nuclear.

It's not what anyone wants, yet his cultists are clapping along...

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