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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #75 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 1:08pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 12:49pm:

So Trump has not been proven to be paedophile and if I defend him because he has been proven not be a paedophile that means I'm defending a paedophile and child abuse.

Seriously do you want to rethink that, can't you see the TDS there.

The only reason we don't have answers is because Trump refuses to release the unredacted Epstein files. And now, coincidentally on the very deadline when he was statutorily obliged to explain those redactions, he's bombed another country and abducted its President, overtaking the news cycle to burry the fact that he did not meet his obligations around the Epstein files..

He signed the law himself, yet he's flagrantly ignored it.

The accused sits on the evidence and goes to war to ensure it never sees the light of day. And you refuse to commit to holding him accountable if that evidence proves he sexually abused children.

Yet somehow none of this applies to Clinton, only Trump. I've been consistent from the start. You, on the other hand, change the rules for Trump, making it clear you won't hold him to account even if he's proven to have abused minors.

In that context, your accusations about TDS are worthless, nothing but projection and deflection from a stance that is, frankly, abhorrent.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #76 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 1:21pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 1:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 12:49pm:

So Trump has not been proven to be paedophile and if I defend him because he has been proven not be a paedophile that means I'm defending a paedophile and child abuse.

Seriously do you want to rethink that, can't you see the TDS there.

The only reason we don't have answers is because Trump refuses to release the unredacted Epstein files. And now, coincidentally on the very deadline when he was statutorily obliged to explain those redactions, he's bombed another country and abducted its President, overtaking the news cycle to burry the fact that he did not meet his obligations around the Epstein files..

He signed the law himself, yet he's flagrantly ignored it.

The accused sits on the evidence and goes to war to ensure it never sees the light of day. And you refuse to commit to holding him accountable if that evidence proves he sexually abused children.

Yet somehow none of this applies to Clinton, only Trump. I've been consistent from the start. You, on the other hand, change the rules for Trump, making it clear you won't hold him to account even if he's proven to have abused minors.

In that context, your accusations about TDS are worthless, nothing but projection and deflection from a stance that is, frankly, abhorrent.

Once again you are making things up, the accused sits on the evidence,,
Trump has not been accused of anything, CNN have reported along with all news outlets that Trump has not been accused of anything. So your premis is Trump took out Maduro because you and Greg accused him of paedophilia.

TDS is the only evidence you are providing.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #77 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 1:27pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 1:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 12:49pm:

So Trump has not been proven to be paedophile and if I defend him because he has been proven not be a paedophile that means I'm defending a paedophile and child abuse.

Seriously do you want to rethink that, can't you see the TDS there.

The only reason we don't have answers is because Trump refuses to release the unredacted Epstein files. And now, coincidentally on the very deadline when he was statutorily obliged to explain those redactions, he's bombed another country and abducted its President, overtaking the news cycle to burry the fact that he did not meet his obligations around the Epstein files..

He signed the law himself, yet he's flagrantly ignored it.

The accused sits on the evidence and goes to war to ensure it never sees the light of day. And you refuse to commit to holding him accountable if that evidence proves he sexually abused children.

Yet somehow none of this applies to Clinton, only Trump. I've been consistent from the start. You, on the other hand, change the rules for Trump, making it clear you won't hold him to account even if he's proven to have abused minors.

In that context, your accusations about TDS are worthless, nothing but projection and deflection from a stance that is, frankly, abhorrent.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #78 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 1:50pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 1:21pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 1:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 12:49pm:

So Trump has not been proven to be paedophile and if I defend him because he has been proven not be a paedophile that means I'm defending a paedophile and child abuse.

Seriously do you want to rethink that, can't you see the TDS there.

The only reason we don't have answers is because Trump refuses to release the unredacted Epstein files. And now, coincidentally on the very deadline when he was statutorily obliged to explain those redactions, he's bombed another country and abducted its President, overtaking the news cycle to burry the fact that he did not meet his obligations around the Epstein files..

He signed the law himself, yet he's flagrantly ignored it.

The accused sits on the evidence and goes to war to ensure it never sees the light of day. And you refuse to commit to holding him accountable if that evidence proves he sexually abused children.

Yet somehow none of this applies to Clinton, only Trump. I've been consistent from the start. You, on the other hand, change the rules for Trump, making it clear you won't hold him to account even if he's proven to have abused minors.

In that context, your accusations about TDS are worthless, nothing but projection and deflection from a stance that is, frankly, abhorrent.

Once again you are making things up, the accused sits on the evidence,,
Trump has not been accused of anything, CNN have reported along with all news outlets that Trump has not been accused of anything. So your premis is Trump took out Maduro because you and Greg accused him of paedophilia.

TDS is the only evidence you are providing.

So you won't condemn Trump if he's found to have, with a subsequent release of the unredacted Epstein files, to have sexually abused minors. Disgusting, but on brand.

How about this, despite your deflects and distractions to Biden or Clinton previously, do you think Trump should release the unredacted files, as required by the law he signed into existence?

Do you acknowledge the lengths he's gone to in order to suppress the files, then remove any mention of him from the files and the searchable database?

Do you at least condemn that, or, can you offer an explanation as to why he did this that isn't the obvious??

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #79 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 5:54pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 11:02am:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:23am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:49am:

If the Epstein files prove that there is no evidence of Trump being a pedophile are you going to appologise to the victims for protecting the real pedophiles.

Firstly, you didn't answer the question, AGAIN.

But I'll humour you.

If the full, unredacted Epstein files are released and there is no evidence that Trump sexually abused any minors, meaning no sexual contact with anyone under 18, then the accusation is disproven and I will stop questioning his links to Epstein.

That's what accountability looks like.

Will I apologise to victims for "protecting" real paedophiles? No, because I'm not protecting anyone.

I want the full, unredacted files released. I want everyone named who has committed wrongdoing to be investigated and charged if the evidence warrants it. I am not the one trying to suppress their release.

That is Trump and his supporters.

The difference between us is simple. I'm prepared to accept whatever the evidence shows, even if it clears someone I dislike. Your deflections, distractions and refusal to answer questions has shown that you are not prepared to accept whatever it shows if it implicates someone you defend.

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You are using Trump to protect the likes of Clinton and Summers and the worst part is you know that.

No, I'm not. I've said this repeatedly, if Clinton, Biden, or anyone else is in those files with credible evidence against them, they should be held to account and face the full force of the law.

Even Clinton himself is calling for their release to clear his name.

So explain this to me, how does demanding full transparency, with no excuses, no immunities, and no deflections, amount to protecting anyone?

It's the exact opposite.

You're so riddled with TDS that you assume everyone else plays the same tribal defence game you do. You think criticism must be partisan, and accountability must be selective.

Wrong.

There is no excuse for child abuse. Full stop.

The only person here demonstrating any instinct to protect potential child abusers is you. You won't even commit, yes or no, to supporting impeachment so Trump can be fully investigated and held to account if compelling evidence of sexual abuse of minors appears in the complete, unredacted Epstein files.

Instead, you tried to flip the script and force me to answer for people on the left. That tactic only works if the other person is also invested in shielding their "side".

I'm not.

If anyone on the left appears in those files, Clinton, Gates, Biden, whoever, and there is evidence of wrongdoing, they should be prosecuted accordingly.

All of them.

Including Trump.

So again, I will ask you,

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:27am:

If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity?

Yes or no?

Leroy?

There is no evidence that Trump was involved in wrongdoings in the Epstein files as reported by CNN and all news outlets. If you present evidence that he was then you can ask that question, but that hasn't happened.

No no, we're asking the question.

If your DL is found to have hung out with Jeff, raped the kiddies, and kept it all a wonderful secret, will you call for his immediate impeachment and trial?

That's a question.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #80 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:23pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 1:50pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 1:21pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 1:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 12:49pm:

So Trump has not been proven to be paedophile and if I defend him because he has been proven not be a paedophile that means I'm defending a paedophile and child abuse.

Seriously do you want to rethink that, can't you see the TDS there.

The only reason we don't have answers is because Trump refuses to release the unredacted Epstein files. And now, coincidentally on the very deadline when he was statutorily obliged to explain those redactions, he's bombed another country and abducted its President, overtaking the news cycle to burry the fact that he did not meet his obligations around the Epstein files..

He signed the law himself, yet he's flagrantly ignored it.

The accused sits on the evidence and goes to war to ensure it never sees the light of day. And you refuse to commit to holding him accountable if that evidence proves he sexually abused children.

Yet somehow none of this applies to Clinton, only Trump. I've been consistent from the start. You, on the other hand, change the rules for Trump, making it clear you won't hold him to account even if he's proven to have abused minors.

In that context, your accusations about TDS are worthless, nothing but projection and deflection from a stance that is, frankly, abhorrent.

Once again you are making things up, the accused sits on the evidence,,
Trump has not been accused of anything, CNN have reported along with all news outlets that Trump has not been accused of anything. So your premis is Trump took out Maduro because you and Greg accused him of paedophilia.

TDS is the only evidence you are providing.

So you won't condemn Trump if he's found to have, with a subsequent release of the unredacted Epstein files, to have sexually abused minors. Disgusting, but on brand.

How about this, despite your deflects and distractions to Biden or Clinton previously, do you think Trump should release the unredacted files, as required by the law he signed into existence?

Do you acknowledge the lengths he's gone to in order to suppress the files, then remove any mention of him from the files and the searchable database?

Do you at least condemn that, or, can you offer an explanation as to why he did this that isn't the obvious??

You want me to condemn someone for something they have not done, cant you see the TDS is overtaking your reasoning.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #82 - Feb 11^th, 2026 at 6:58am

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Jamie Raskin Reveals Trump’s Name Shows Up in Unredacted Epstein Files ‘More Than a Million Times’

Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) revealed on Tuesday that President Donald Trump’s name appears in the unredacted Epstein files “more than a million times.”

Raskin made the bombshell statement in an interview with Axios.

The Democrat made the discovery as he viewed the unreacted files along with fellow lawmakers Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA), and Rep. Becca Balint (D-VT), Axios reported.

On Monday, Raskin blasted the “tons of completely unnecessary redactions” in the latest batch of Epstein-related documents.

Among them, Raskin said, was an email that contradicted Trump’s claims that he had broken off his friendship with Epstein and kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago, a story that the president has repeated in denying any recent association with Epstein.

“Epstein’s lawyers synopsized and quoted Trump as saying that Jeffrey Epstein was not a member of his club at Mar-a-Lago, but he was a guest at Mar-a-Lago, and he had never been asked to leave,” Raskin said. “And that was redacted for some indeterminate, inscrutable reason. I know it seems to be at odds with some things that President Trump has been saying recently about how he had kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of his club or asked him to leave. And this was at least one report that appears to contradict it.”

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So I guess we're back to the question:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 10:40am:

Trump claims he and Epstein fell out because Epstein poached underage spa workers from Mar-a-Lago.

That's very different.

That isn't an allegation from critics, it's Trump's own explanation. Even setting aside the fact they continued to be photographed together at private events afterwards, does this mean Trump was lying when he said it on Airforce One? Or was he mistaken thanks to his cognitive decline?

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #83 - Feb 11^th, 2026 at 2:30pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 11^th, 2026 at 6:58am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 10:40am:

Trump claims he and Epstein fell out because Epstein poached underage spa workers from Mar-a-Lago.

That's very different.

That isn't an allegation from critics, it's Trump's own explanation. Even setting aside the fact they continued to be photographed together at private events afterwards, does this mean Trump was lying when he said it on Airforce One? Or was he mistaken thanks to his cognitive decline?

There are no pics of Trump with Epstein for over 20 years.
Since you claim there are post them ya bullshitter!

Epstein belives Trump dobbed him in this has been established in previously released docs.

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Ex-police chief says Trump told him 'thank goodness you're stopping' Epstein in 2000s

A former Palm Beach, Florida, police chief who investigated Jeffrey Epstein in the mid-2000s told the FBI he had received a call from Donald Trump at the time to say "thank goodness you’re stopping him, everyone has known he’s been doing this," according to an FBI account of an interview with the ex-police chief in 2019.

The Miami Herald was the first to report on the FBI document.

President Trump has repeatedly denied any knowledge of Epstein’s crimes and has said that he cut off contact with his former friend more than 20 years ago.

Trump has claimed that he booted Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after discovering that he was poaching employees from the club’s spa.

The police chief’s name -- Michael Reiter -- is redacted from the document on the Department of Justice's website, but the information in the FBI statement tracks with previously public information about Reiter’s role in the investigation that began in 2005.

Reiter’s detectives were investigating Epstein for allegedly recruiting girls as young as 14 years old to provide massages that turned sexual.

The information about Trump’s alleged call makes up just a small part of a 4-page FBI report summarizing Reiter’s testimony in October 2019, two months after Epstein’s death.

“DONALD TRUMP told [Reiter] that he threw EPSTEIN out of his club. TRUMP called the [Palm Beach Police Department] to tell him ‘thank goodness you're stopping him, everyone has known he's been doing this,” the FBI report of Reiter’s statement says.

The alleged call from Trump came in July 2006, around the time the details of the police investigation became public, according to a source familiar with the timing.

“TRUMP told him people in New York knew EPSTEIN was disgusting. TRUMP said MAXWELL was EPSTEIN's operative, ‘she is evil and to focus on her,’ the report continues. “TRUMP told [Reiter] that he was around EPSTEIN once when teenagers were present and TRUMP ‘got the hell out of there.' TRUMP was one of the very first people to call when people found out that they were investigating EPSTEIN,” the report of Reiter’s statement said.

After repeatedly sparring behind the scenes with local prosecutors, Reiter went public in 2006, expressing his displeasure with the local prosecutor’s decision to take the case to a grand jury instead of charging Epstein directly.

https://abcnews.com/US/police-chief-trump-told-goodness-stopping-epstein-2006/st...

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #84 - Feb 11^th, 2026 at 3:30pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 11^th, 2026 at 2:30pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 11^th, 2026 at 6:58am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 10:40am:

Trump claims he and Epstein fell out because Epstein poached underage spa workers from Mar-a-Lago.

That's very different.

That isn't an allegation from critics, it's Trump's own explanation. Even setting aside the fact they continued to be photographed together at private events afterwards, does this mean Trump was lying when he said it on Airforce One? Or was he mistaken thanks to his cognitive decline?

There are no pics of Trump with Epstein for over 20 years.
Since you claim there are post them ya bullshitter!

Epstein belives Trump dobbed him in this has been established in previously released docs.

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Ex-police chief says Trump told him 'thank goodness you're stopping' Epstein in 2000s

A former Palm Beach, Florida, police chief who investigated Jeffrey Epstein in the mid-2000s told the FBI he had received a call from Donald Trump at the time to say "thank goodness you’re stopping him, everyone has known he’s been doing this," according to an FBI account of an interview with the ex-police chief in 2019.

The Miami Herald was the first to report on the FBI document.

President Trump has repeatedly denied any knowledge of Epstein’s crimes and has said that he cut off contact with his former friend more than 20 years ago.

Trump has claimed that he booted Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after discovering that he was poaching employees from the club’s spa.

The police chief’s name -- Michael Reiter -- is redacted from the document on the Department of Justice's website, but the information in the FBI statement tracks with previously public information about Reiter’s role in the investigation that began in 2005.

Reiter’s detectives were investigating Epstein for allegedly recruiting girls as young as 14 years old to provide massages that turned sexual.

The information about Trump’s alleged call makes up just a small part of a 4-page FBI report summarizing Reiter’s testimony in October 2019, two months after Epstein’s death.

“DONALD TRUMP told [Reiter] that he threw EPSTEIN out of his club. TRUMP called the [Palm Beach Police Department] to tell him ‘thank goodness you're stopping him, everyone has known he's been doing this,” the FBI report of Reiter’s statement says.

The alleged call from Trump came in July 2006, around the time the details of the police investigation became public, according to a source familiar with the timing.

“TRUMP told him people in New York knew EPSTEIN was disgusting. TRUMP said MAXWELL was EPSTEIN's operative, ‘she is evil and to focus on her,’ the report continues. “TRUMP told [Reiter] that he was around EPSTEIN once when teenagers were present and TRUMP ‘got the hell out of there.' TRUMP was one of the very first people to call when people found out that they were investigating EPSTEIN,” the report of Reiter’s statement said.

After repeatedly sparring behind the scenes with local prosecutors, Reiter went public in 2006, expressing his displeasure with the local prosecutor’s decision to take the case to a grand jury instead of charging Epstein directly.

https://abcnews.com/US/police-chief-trump-told-goodness-stopping-epstein-2006/st...

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I've seen reports of this photo being from 2012,

Even if the timeline is off, or the image is fabricated, it changes nothing else in my post.

That said, if I've got that part wrong, I'm happy to post a retraction for that mistake, however I don't think I can edit the original post anymore.

Trump's own account directly contradicts reports that Epstein was asked to leave, and now Epstein's own lawyers confirm it never happened.

And yet you still believe it?

Was Trump lying, or is his cognitive decline to blame for this scrambled narrative?

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #86 - Yesterday at 9:31am

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2026 at 4:08pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 11^th, 2026 at 3:30pm:

Even if the timeline is off, or the image is fabricated, it changes nothing else in my post.

That's you in a nutty shell.

It is.

If I've made a mistake, I've owned it. What I'm not going to do is pretend that a single error invalidates the substance of the argument or allows the rest of the facts to be waved away.

So what exactly would you prefer?

That I ghost the thread, or descend into personal abuse, the way you do every time you're caught lying or getting something wrong?

That's not accountability, it's evasion or avoidance, your specialty, not mine.

Yet I'm meant to be the leftie, and you're on the supposed side of personal responsibility...

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #87 - Yesterday at 10:38am

ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 9:31am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2026 at 4:08pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 11^th, 2026 at 3:30pm:

Even if the timeline is off, or the image is fabricated, it changes nothing else in my post.

That's you in a nutty shell.

It is.

If I've made a mistake, I've owned it. What I'm not going to do is pretend that a single error invalidates the substance of the argument or allows the rest of the facts to be waved away.

So what exactly would you prefer?

That I ghost the thread, or descend into personal abuse, the way you do every time you're caught lying or getting something wrong?

That's not accountability, it's evasion or avoidance, your specialty, not mine.

Yet I'm meant to be the leftie, and you're on the supposed side of personal responsibility...

Intelligence and integwity, innit.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #88 - Yesterday at 11:11am

ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 9:31am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2026 at 4:08pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 11^th, 2026 at 3:30pm:

Even if the timeline is off, or the image is fabricated, it changes nothing else in my post.

That's you in a nutty shell.

It is.

If I've made a mistake, I've owned it. What I'm not going to do is pretend that a single error invalidates the substance of the argument or allows the rest of the facts to be waved away.

So what exactly would you prefer?

That I ghost the thread, or descend into personal abuse, the way you do every time you're caught lying or getting something wrong?

That's not accountability, it's evasion or avoidance, your specialty, not mine.

Yet I'm meant to be the leftie, and you're on the supposed side of personal responsibility...

The style she adopted made those protestations of innocence far easier to sustain. Because so much of her public presence takes the form of short, disjointed social-media interventions, its overall content is inherently difficult to reconstruct, allowing her to brush aside the objections her vitriolic statements regularly provoke. Yet when reassembled, those fragments cohere into a moral and political universe that leaves little room for persuasion, inquiry, or disagreement – and whose unqualified exaltation of violence, adamant rejection of intellectual and political pluralism, and strident advocacy of harassment and intimidation sharply contradict her self-presentation as an academic rationally and peacefully advocating for Palestinian rights.

At the heart of that style, which has now become her trademark, lies its incessant tempo. The sheer pace and intensity of Abdel-Fattah’s outpourings continuously stoke her supporters’ rage while leaving opponents flat-footed and disoriented. The need to remain at the front of the pack leads her to constantly escalate the vehemence of her rhetorical aggression, generating torrents of increasingly incendiary claims that gain traction not by withstanding scrutiny, but by permanently outrunning it.

ALL THIS applies just as well to Sad 'n Proud, Karnal, armchair, sprinty, gweggy et al.
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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #89 - Yesterday at 11:40am

Frank wrote Yesterday at 11:11am:

ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 9:31am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2026 at 4:08pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 11^th, 2026 at 3:30pm:

Even if the timeline is off, or the image is fabricated, it changes nothing else in my post.

That's you in a nutty shell.

It is.

If I've made a mistake, I've owned it. What I'm not going to do is pretend that a single error invalidates the substance of the argument or allows the rest of the facts to be waved away.

So what exactly would you prefer?

That I ghost the thread, or descend into personal abuse, the way you do every time you're caught lying or getting something wrong?

That's not accountability, it's evasion or avoidance, your specialty, not mine.

Yet I'm meant to be the leftie, and you're on the supposed side of personal responsibility...

The style she adopted made those protestations of innocence far easier to sustain. Because so much of her public presence takes the form of short, disjointed social-media interventions, its overall content is inherently difficult to reconstruct, allowing her to brush aside the objections her vitriolic statements regularly provoke. Yet when reassembled, those fragments cohere into a moral and political universe that leaves little room for persuasion, inquiry, or disagreement – and whose unqualified exaltation of violence, adamant rejection of intellectual and political pluralism, and strident advocacy of harassment and intimidation sharply contradict her self-presentation as an academic rationally and peacefully advocating for Palestinian rights.

At the heart of that style, which has now become her trademark, lies its incessant tempo. The sheer pace and intensity of Abdel-Fattah’s outpourings continuously stoke her supporters’ rage while leaving opponents flat-footed and disoriented. The need to remain at the front of the pack leads her to constantly escalate the vehemence of her rhetorical aggression, generating torrents of increasingly incendiary claims that gain traction not by withstanding scrutiny, but by permanently outrunning it.

ALL THIS applies just as well to Sad 'n Proud, Karnal, armchair, sprinty, gweggy et al.
It's as if their training manual has been discovered.

Hey, old boy, why don't you respond to Sad's post and remind us all how ethical you truly are?

You attended the pwestigious, remember. You come from a Superior Culture. You're liber...

Sorry. Lib...

We'll let you say it, dear chap.

In the words of the bard, please explain?

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