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ProudKangaroo Gold Member Offline The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 21884 Meeanjin (Brisbane)	Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Reply #60 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:01am Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:54am: So where did I support Pedophiles and child abuse sadroo? Why wont you name the pedophile you claim I support. More distractions. I answered your question already.
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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #61 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:10am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:01am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:54am:

So where did I support Pedophiles and child abuse sadroo?

Why wont you name the pedophile you claim I support.

More distractions.

I answered your question already.

You have not answered the question. you claimed I support pedophiles and child abuse.

Why dont you have the guts to name the pedophile I supported.

Its because you have TDS and will make up allegations and I'm calling you out as the liar you are.

Tell me which pedophile I supported because you made the allegation.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #62 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:27am

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:10am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:01am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:54am:

So where did I support Pedophiles and child abuse sadroo?

Why wont you name the pedophile you claim I support.

More distractions.

I answered your question already.

You have not answered the question. you claimed I support pedophiles and child abuse.

Why dont you have the guts to name the pedophile I supported.

Its because you have TDS and will make up allegations and I'm calling you out as the liar you are.

Tell me which pedophile I supported because you made the allegation.

If you genuinely oppose child abuse, why is it that every discussion about the Epstein files, or Epstein's own claims about Trump, is immediately met with distraction and derailment the moment Trump's name is mentioned?

When Biden, Clinton, or any other left-wing figure comes up, the position is simple and consistent, if they're guilty, they should face justice like anyone else. No special pleading. No whataboutism.

But when it's Trump, suddenly the reflex is to deflect, minimise, or defend at all costs.

So let's strip away the evasions and clear this up properly, once and for all.

If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity?

Yes or no?

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #63 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:34am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:27am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:10am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:01am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:54am:

So where did I support Pedophiles and child abuse sadroo?

Why wont you name the pedophile you claim I support.

More distractions.

I answered your question already.

You have not answered the question. you claimed I support pedophiles and child abuse.

Why dont you have the guts to name the pedophile I supported.

Its because you have TDS and will make up allegations and I'm calling you out as the liar you are.

Tell me which pedophile I supported because you made the allegation.

If you genuinely oppose child abuse, why is it that every discussion about the Epstein files, or Epstein's own claims about Trump, is immediately met with distraction and derailment the moment Trump's name is mentioned?

When Biden, Clinton, or any other left-wing figure comes up, the position is simple and consistent, if they're guilty, they should face justice like anyone else. No special pleading. No whataboutism.

But when it's Trump, suddenly the reflex is to deflect, minimise, or defend at all costs.

So let's strip away the evasions and clear this up properly, once and for all.

If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity?

Yes or no?

So you are relying on what you think might be in the files, you are not making claims Trump is a pedophile because there is evidence of it but you are making claims that Trump is a pedophile because
if there was evidence then he would be a pedophile.

And if anyone does not follow your reasoning then they support pedophiles

Cant you see how TDS is in play here.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #64 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:38am

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:34am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:27am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:10am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:01am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:54am:

So where did I support Pedophiles and child abuse sadroo?

Why wont you name the pedophile you claim I support.

More distractions.

I answered your question already.

You have not answered the question. you claimed I support pedophiles and child abuse.

Why dont you have the guts to name the pedophile I supported.

Its because you have TDS and will make up allegations and I'm calling you out as the liar you are.

Tell me which pedophile I supported because you made the allegation.

If you genuinely oppose child abuse, why is it that every discussion about the Epstein files, or Epstein's own claims about Trump, is immediately met with distraction and derailment the moment Trump's name is mentioned?

When Biden, Clinton, or any other left-wing figure comes up, the position is simple and consistent, if they're guilty, they should face justice like anyone else. No special pleading. No whataboutism.

But when it's Trump, suddenly the reflex is to deflect, minimise, or defend at all costs.

So let's strip away the evasions and clear this up properly, once and for all.

If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity?

Yes or no?

So you are relying on what you think might be in the files, you are not making claims Trump is a pedophile because there is evidence of it but you are making claims that Trump is a pedophile because
if there was evidence then he would be a pedophile.

And if anyone does not follow your reasoning then they support pedophiles

Cant you see how TDS is in play here.

Yes or No?

So far you're deflecting again...

If you would genuinely support that, then it's clear you are not defending the abuse of children, and I was wrong to accuse you of doing so. In that case, I'm prepared to take back the accusation and formally apologise, which is more than I can say for the apology I'm still waiting on after your own false claims about me.

But that only happens after you answer the question. Dodging it doesn't clear your name, it only reinforces the suspicion.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #65 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:49am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:38am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:34am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:27am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:10am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:01am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:54am:

So where did I support Pedophiles and child abuse sadroo?

Why wont you name the pedophile you claim I support.

More distractions.

I answered your question already.

You have not answered the question. you claimed I support pedophiles and child abuse.

Why dont you have the guts to name the pedophile I supported.

Its because you have TDS and will make up allegations and I'm calling you out as the liar you are.

Tell me which pedophile I supported because you made the allegation.

If you genuinely oppose child abuse, why is it that every discussion about the Epstein files, or Epstein's own claims about Trump, is immediately met with distraction and derailment the moment Trump's name is mentioned?

When Biden, Clinton, or any other left-wing figure comes up, the position is simple and consistent, if they're guilty, they should face justice like anyone else. No special pleading. No whataboutism.

But when it's Trump, suddenly the reflex is to deflect, minimise, or defend at all costs.

So let's strip away the evasions and clear this up properly, once and for all.

If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity?

Yes or no?

So you are relying on what you think might be in the files, you are not making claims Trump is a pedophile because there is evidence of it but you are making claims that Trump is a pedophile because
if there was evidence then he would be a pedophile.

And if anyone does not follow your reasoning then they support pedophiles

Cant you see how TDS is in play here.

Yes or No?

So far you're deflecting again...

If you would genuinely support that, then it's clear you are not defending the abuse of children, and I was wrong to accuse you of doing so. In that case, I'm prepared to take back the accusation and formally apologise, which is more than I can say for the apology I'm still waiting on after your own false claims about me.

But that only happens after you answer the question. Dodging it doesn't clear your name, it only reinforces the suspicion.

If the Epstein files prove that there is no evidence of Trump being a pedophile are you going to appologise to the victims for protecting the real pedophiles. You are using Trump to protect the likes of Clinton and Summers and the worst part is you know that.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #66 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:56am

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:34am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:27am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:10am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:01am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 6:54am:

So where did I support Pedophiles and child abuse sadroo?

Why wont you name the pedophile you claim I support.

More distractions.

I answered your question already.

You have not answered the question. you claimed I support pedophiles and child abuse.

Why dont you have the guts to name the pedophile I supported.

Its because you have TDS and will make up allegations and I'm calling you out as the liar you are.

Tell me which pedophile I supported because you made the allegation.

If you genuinely oppose child abuse, why is it that every discussion about the Epstein files, or Epstein's own claims about Trump, is immediately met with distraction and derailment the moment Trump's name is mentioned?

When Biden, Clinton, or any other left-wing figure comes up, the position is simple and consistent, if they're guilty, they should face justice like anyone else. No special pleading. No whataboutism.

But when it's Trump, suddenly the reflex is to deflect, minimise, or defend at all costs.

So let's strip away the evasions and clear this up properly, once and for all.

If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity?

Yes or no?

So you are relying on what you think might be in the files, you are not making claims Trump is a pedophile because there is evidence of it but you are making claims that Trump is a pedophile because
if there was evidence then he would be a pedophile.

And if anyone does not follow your reasoning then they support pedophiles

Cant you see how TDS is in play here.

That's pretty logical Leroy but you have to understand we live in a post truth world.
Skippy is entitled to his truth.
Trump is entitled to his

Both are just monkeys flinging their faces around.

We are in this paradigm shift.
The smart thing is Trump understands why he is a monkey flinging poo at the EU or the UN or NATO or meduro but they haven't caught on yet

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #67 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:23am

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:49am:

If the Epstein files prove that there is no evidence of Trump being a pedophile are you going to appologise to the victims for protecting the real pedophiles.

Firstly, you didn't answer the question, AGAIN.

But I'll humour you.

If the full, unredacted Epstein files are released and there is no evidence that Trump sexually abused any minors, meaning no sexual contact with anyone under 18, then the accusation is disproven and I will stop questioning his links to Epstein.

That's what accountability looks like.

Will I apologise to victims for "protecting" real paedophiles? No, because I'm not protecting anyone.

I want the full, unredacted files released. I want everyone named who has committed wrongdoing to be investigated and charged if the evidence warrants it. I am not the one trying to suppress their release.

That is Trump and his supporters.

The difference between us is simple. I'm prepared to accept whatever the evidence shows, even if it clears someone I dislike. Your deflections, distractions and refusal to answer questions has shown that you are not prepared to accept whatever it shows if it implicates someone you defend.

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You are using Trump to protect the likes of Clinton and Summers and the worst part is you know that.

No, I'm not. I've said this repeatedly, if Clinton, Biden, or anyone else is in those files with credible evidence against them, they should be held to account and face the full force of the law.

Even Clinton himself is calling for their release to clear his name.

So explain this to me, how does demanding full transparency, with no excuses, no immunities, and no deflections, amount to protecting anyone?

It's the exact opposite.

You're so riddled with TDS that you assume everyone else plays the same tribal defence game you do. You think criticism must be partisan, and accountability must be selective.

Wrong.

There is no excuse for child abuse. Full stop.

The only person here demonstrating any instinct to protect potential child abusers is you. You won't even commit, yes or no, to supporting impeachment so Trump can be fully investigated and held to account if compelling evidence of sexual abuse of minors appears in the complete, unredacted Epstein files.

Instead, you tried to flip the script and force me to answer for people on the left. That tactic only works if the other person is also invested in shielding their "side".

I'm not.

If anyone on the left appears in those files, Clinton, Gates, Biden, whoever, and there is evidence of wrongdoing, they should be prosecuted accordingly.

All of them.

Including Trump.

So again, I will ask you,

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:27am:

If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity?

Yes or no?

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #68 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:37am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:56am:

That's pretty logical Leroy but you have to understand we live in a post truth world.
Skippy is entitled to his truth.
Trump is entitled to his

Both are just monkeys flinging their faces around.

We are in this paradigm shift.
The smart thing is Trump understands why he is a monkey flinging poo at the EU or the UN or NATO or meduro but they haven't caught on yet

You should sit this one out, Scoot.

Unlike Leroy, who is defending Trump over the possibility he abused children, you defended Epstein, a convicted child abuser, by trying to reframe his crimes as some "Playboy mansion party island" for the rich and powerful.

All the while, you deliberately ignore the court records documenting his coercion, intimidation, trafficking, grooming, sexual abuse, confiscation of passports, and isolation of minors.

Minimising that isn't clever. It's grotesque.

"Your truth" is disgusting.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #69 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:49am

Sadroo you said the difference between us is you are prepared to accept what the evidence shows.

Can you show what evidence that shows Trump was/is involved in paedophilia, all the news networks including CNN have categorically stated there is no evidence of wrongdoing by Trump, so it's up to you now to provide the evidence you claim to have, of course if you just made it all up then you would not be able to show this evidence and you are lying when you say you are prepared to accept what the evidence shows.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #70 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:53am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:23am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:49am:

If the Epstein files prove that there is no evidence of Trump being a pedophile are you going to appologise to the victims for protecting the real pedophiles.

Firstly, you didn't answer the question, AGAIN.

But I'll humour you.

If the full, unredacted Epstein files are released and there is no evidence that Trump sexually abused any minors, meaning no sexual contact with anyone under 18, then the accusation is disproven and I will stop questioning his links to Epstein.

That's what accountability looks like.

Will I apologise to victims for "protecting" real paedophiles? No, because I'm not protecting anyone.

I want the full, unredacted files released. I want everyone named who has committed wrongdoing to be investigated and charged if the evidence warrants it. I am not the one trying to suppress their release.

That is Trump and his supporters.

The difference between us is simple. I'm prepared to accept whatever the evidence shows, even if it clears someone I dislike. Your deflections, distractions and refusal to answer questions has shown that you are not prepared to accept whatever it shows if it implicates someone you defend.

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You are using Trump to protect the likes of Clinton and Summers and the worst part is you know that.

No, I'm not. I've said this repeatedly, if Clinton, Biden, or anyone else is in those files with credible evidence against them, they should be held to account and face the full force of the law.

Even Clinton himself is calling for their release to clear his name.

So explain this to me, how does demanding full transparency, with no excuses, no immunities, and no deflections, amount to protecting anyone?

It's the exact opposite.

You're so riddled with TDS that you assume everyone else plays the same tribal defence game you do. You think criticism must be partisan, and accountability must be selective.

Wrong.

There is no excuse for child abuse. Full stop.

The only person here demonstrating any instinct to protect potential child abusers is you. You won't even commit, yes or no, to supporting impeachment so Trump can be fully investigated and held to account if compelling evidence of sexual abuse of minors appears in the complete, unredacted Epstein files.

Instead, you tried to flip the script and force me to answer for people on the left. That tactic only works if the other person is also invested in shielding their "side".

I'm not.

If anyone on the left appears in those files, Clinton, Gates, Biden, whoever, and there is evidence of wrongdoing, they should be prosecuted accordingly.

All of them.

Including Trump.

So again, I will ask you,

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:27am:

If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity?

Yes or no?

Leroy?

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #71 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 11:02am

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:23am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:49am:

If the Epstein files prove that there is no evidence of Trump being a pedophile are you going to appologise to the victims for protecting the real pedophiles.

Firstly, you didn't answer the question, AGAIN.

But I'll humour you.

If the full, unredacted Epstein files are released and there is no evidence that Trump sexually abused any minors, meaning no sexual contact with anyone under 18, then the accusation is disproven and I will stop questioning his links to Epstein.

That's what accountability looks like.

Will I apologise to victims for "protecting" real paedophiles? No, because I'm not protecting anyone.

I want the full, unredacted files released. I want everyone named who has committed wrongdoing to be investigated and charged if the evidence warrants it. I am not the one trying to suppress their release.

That is Trump and his supporters.

The difference between us is simple. I'm prepared to accept whatever the evidence shows, even if it clears someone I dislike. Your deflections, distractions and refusal to answer questions has shown that you are not prepared to accept whatever it shows if it implicates someone you defend.

Quote:

You are using Trump to protect the likes of Clinton and Summers and the worst part is you know that.

No, I'm not. I've said this repeatedly, if Clinton, Biden, or anyone else is in those files with credible evidence against them, they should be held to account and face the full force of the law.

Even Clinton himself is calling for their release to clear his name.

So explain this to me, how does demanding full transparency, with no excuses, no immunities, and no deflections, amount to protecting anyone?

It's the exact opposite.

You're so riddled with TDS that you assume everyone else plays the same tribal defence game you do. You think criticism must be partisan, and accountability must be selective.

Wrong.

There is no excuse for child abuse. Full stop.

The only person here demonstrating any instinct to protect potential child abusers is you. You won't even commit, yes or no, to supporting impeachment so Trump can be fully investigated and held to account if compelling evidence of sexual abuse of minors appears in the complete, unredacted Epstein files.

Instead, you tried to flip the script and force me to answer for people on the left. That tactic only works if the other person is also invested in shielding their "side".

I'm not.

If anyone on the left appears in those files, Clinton, Gates, Biden, whoever, and there is evidence of wrongdoing, they should be prosecuted accordingly.

All of them.

Including Trump.

So again, I will ask you,

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:27am:

If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity?

Yes or no?

Leroy?

There is no evidence that Trump was involved in wrongdoings in the Epstein files as reported by CNN and all news outlets. If you present evidence that he was then you can ask that question, but that hasn't happened.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #72 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 12:08pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:49am:

Sadroo you said the difference between us is you are prepared to accept what the evidence shows.

Can you show what evidence that shows Trump was/is involved in paedophilia, all the news networks including CNN have categorically stated there is no evidence of wrongdoing by Trump, so it's up to you now to provide the evidence you claim to have, of course if you just made it all up then you would not be able to show this evidence and you are lying when you say you are prepared to accept what the evidence shows.

Answer my question first. I've humoured your deflections enough.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #73 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 12:10pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 11:02am:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:23am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:49am:

If the Epstein files prove that there is no evidence of Trump being a pedophile are you going to appologise to the victims for protecting the real pedophiles.

Firstly, you didn't answer the question, AGAIN.

But I'll humour you.

If the full, unredacted Epstein files are released and there is no evidence that Trump sexually abused any minors, meaning no sexual contact with anyone under 18, then the accusation is disproven and I will stop questioning his links to Epstein.

That's what accountability looks like.

Will I apologise to victims for "protecting" real paedophiles? No, because I'm not protecting anyone.

I want the full, unredacted files released. I want everyone named who has committed wrongdoing to be investigated and charged if the evidence warrants it. I am not the one trying to suppress their release.

That is Trump and his supporters.

The difference between us is simple. I'm prepared to accept whatever the evidence shows, even if it clears someone I dislike. Your deflections, distractions and refusal to answer questions has shown that you are not prepared to accept whatever it shows if it implicates someone you defend.

Quote:

You are using Trump to protect the likes of Clinton and Summers and the worst part is you know that.

No, I'm not. I've said this repeatedly, if Clinton, Biden, or anyone else is in those files with credible evidence against them, they should be held to account and face the full force of the law.

Even Clinton himself is calling for their release to clear his name.

So explain this to me, how does demanding full transparency, with no excuses, no immunities, and no deflections, amount to protecting anyone?

It's the exact opposite.

You're so riddled with TDS that you assume everyone else plays the same tribal defence game you do. You think criticism must be partisan, and accountability must be selective.

Wrong.

There is no excuse for child abuse. Full stop.

The only person here demonstrating any instinct to protect potential child abusers is you. You won't even commit, yes or no, to supporting impeachment so Trump can be fully investigated and held to account if compelling evidence of sexual abuse of minors appears in the complete, unredacted Epstein files.

Instead, you tried to flip the script and force me to answer for people on the left. That tactic only works if the other person is also invested in shielding their "side".

I'm not.

If anyone on the left appears in those files, Clinton, Gates, Biden, whoever, and there is evidence of wrongdoing, they should be prosecuted accordingly.

All of them.

Including Trump.

So again, I will ask you,

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:27am:

If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity?

Yes or no?

Leroy?

There is no evidence that Trump was involved in wrongdoings in the Epstein files as reported by CNN and all news outlets. If you present evidence that he was then you can ask that question, but that hasn't happened.

So you won't commit to holding Trump to account if it's proven he's abused children.

And you wonder why you get accused of defending peadophiles...

Full-blown Trump Derrangement Syndrome.

Especially after you demanded others take the same stand against Clinton or other left leaning people.

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Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago
Reply #74 - Jan 7^th, 2026 at 12:49pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 12:10pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 11:02am:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 10:23am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:49am:

If the Epstein files prove that there is no evidence of Trump being a pedophile are you going to appologise to the victims for protecting the real pedophiles.

Firstly, you didn't answer the question, AGAIN.

But I'll humour you.

If the full, unredacted Epstein files are released and there is no evidence that Trump sexually abused any minors, meaning no sexual contact with anyone under 18, then the accusation is disproven and I will stop questioning his links to Epstein.

That's what accountability looks like.

Will I apologise to victims for "protecting" real paedophiles? No, because I'm not protecting anyone.

I want the full, unredacted files released. I want everyone named who has committed wrongdoing to be investigated and charged if the evidence warrants it. I am not the one trying to suppress their release.

That is Trump and his supporters.

The difference between us is simple. I'm prepared to accept whatever the evidence shows, even if it clears someone I dislike. Your deflections, distractions and refusal to answer questions has shown that you are not prepared to accept whatever it shows if it implicates someone you defend.

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You are using Trump to protect the likes of Clinton and Summers and the worst part is you know that.

No, I'm not. I've said this repeatedly, if Clinton, Biden, or anyone else is in those files with credible evidence against them, they should be held to account and face the full force of the law.

Even Clinton himself is calling for their release to clear his name.

So explain this to me, how does demanding full transparency, with no excuses, no immunities, and no deflections, amount to protecting anyone?

It's the exact opposite.

You're so riddled with TDS that you assume everyone else plays the same tribal defence game you do. You think criticism must be partisan, and accountability must be selective.

Wrong.

There is no excuse for child abuse. Full stop.

The only person here demonstrating any instinct to protect potential child abusers is you. You won't even commit, yes or no, to supporting impeachment so Trump can be fully investigated and held to account if compelling evidence of sexual abuse of minors appears in the complete, unredacted Epstein files.

Instead, you tried to flip the script and force me to answer for people on the left. That tactic only works if the other person is also invested in shielding their "side".

I'm not.

If anyone on the left appears in those files, Clinton, Gates, Biden, whoever, and there is evidence of wrongdoing, they should be prosecuted accordingly.

All of them.

Including Trump.

So again, I will ask you,

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2026 at 7:27am:

If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity?

Yes or no?

Leroy?

There is no evidence that Trump was involved in wrongdoings in the Epstein files as reported by CNN and all news outlets. If you present evidence that he was then you can ask that question, but that hasn't happened.

So you won't commit to holding Trump to account if it's proven he's abused children.

And you wonder why you get accused of defending peadophiles...

Full-blown Trump Derrangement Syndrome.

Especially after you demanded others take the same stand against Clinton or other left leaning people.

So Trump has not been proven to be paedophile and if I defend him because he has been proven not be a paedophile that means I'm defending a paedophile and child abuse.

Seriously do you want to rethink that, can't you see the TDS there.

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