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Where are the important Leftie Influencers?
Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:23am

The conservative side has so many important influencers

Trump
Jordan peterson
Joe rogan
Elon Musk
Ben Shapiro.
Tucker.
Pauline
Peter thielle.
Charlie Kirk ( well killing him is one way to try to get even)
Hannity
Megan Kelly
John Anderson
Victor Hansen.

Who have the left got?

Greta
AOC
Bernie.
Rachel maddow
Thorpe.
Noam chomsky

Why are the left so ignored irrelevant and flaccid ?

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21630 Gordon Gender:	Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers? Reply #1 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:45am
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Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers?
Reply #2 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:15am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:23am:

The conservative side has so many important influencers

Trump
Jordan peterson
Joe rogan
Elon Musk
Ben Shapiro.
Tucker.
Pauline
Peter thielle.
Charlie Kirk ( well killing him is one way to try to get even)
Hannity
Megan Kelly
John Anderson
Victor Hansen.

Who have the left got?

Greta
AOC
Bernie.
Rachel maddow
Thorpe.
Noam chomsky

Why are the left so ignored irrelevant and flaccid ?

You left out Mamdani; and none of that list are "flaccid".

Meanwhile, AOC and Bernie are rejected by mainstream politicians (Left and Right) who blindly subscribe to mainstream Neoclassical economics - the real villains in the current hyperpartisan democracies.

"It's the economy, stupid".

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55130 Gender:	Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers? Reply #3 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:16am The Left have lost in America. Been booted out of Argentina. ...but they have now taken over Australia and made it a State of New Zealand's Oceania
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Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers?
Reply #4 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:30am

Jasin wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:16am:

The Left have lost in America.

Wait for the midterms....

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Been booted out of Argentina.

Same old story.

Mainstream Neoclassical economics pits Left against Right; the Right's 'solutions' are increasing poverty in Argentina, while economists are pleased with Milei's lower government debt and spending.

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...but they have now taken over Australia and made it a State of New Zealand's Oceania

Please explain...oh never mind....

Note: the value of NZ's exports is decreasing. Pity about that.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55130 Gender:	Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers? Reply #5 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:32am Wait for the mid-terms? Just beat up for the Media as always. It's a nothingness.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 149424 Gender:	Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers? Reply #6 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:34am Jasin wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:32am: Wait for the mid-terms? Just beat up for the Media as always. It's a nothingness. You think the GOP will do well in the mid-terms?
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Reply #7 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 11:09am

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:15am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:23am:

The conservative side has so many important influencers

Trump
Jordan peterson
Joe rogan
Elon Musk
Ben Shapiro.
Tucker.
Pauline
Peter thielle.
Charlie Kirk ( well killing him is one way to try to get even)
Hannity
Megan Kelly
John Anderson
Victor Hansen.

Who have the left got?

Greta
AOC
Bernie.
Rachel maddow
Thorpe.
Noam chomsky

Why are the left so ignored irrelevant and flaccid ?

You left out Mamdani; and none of that list are "flaccid".

Meanwhile, AOC and Bernie are rejected by mainstream politicians (Left and Right) who blindly subscribe to mainstream Neoclassical economics - the real villains in the current hyperpartisan democracies.

"It's the economy, stupid".

They're as flaccid as you. And that's limp writ large.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 116284 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers? Reply #8 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 11:21am Jasin wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:16am: The Left have lost in America. Been booted out of Argentina. ...but they have now taken over Australia and made it a State of New Zealand's Oceania Nahh - the Kiwis kicked out Jacinda Ardern the communist.
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Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers?
Reply #9 - Jan 2^nd, 2026 at 12:18pm

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=122244305792058583&set=a.122104455686058...

Not in Norway now - the tides they are a-changing.....

"A single decision can change everything, this case study proves it... Norway made such a decision three and a half years ago, with hugely positive social implications.

When the Norwegian Government appointed the Men’s Equality Commission (Mannsutvalget) by royal decree in August 2022, it did something that was quietly profound: it treated the challenges facing boys and men as legitimate gender equality issues. Not as backlash, not as culture war, but as serious policy questions worthy of evidence, time, and institutional authority.

The Commission’s mandate was explicit and unusually broad (education, family life, health, work, civic participation, and inclusion) especially striking in Norway, which is often held up as a global “gold standard” for gender policies.

Two years later, the result was transformative. The Commission’s final report published in April 2024, has reframed male underachievement in education, poorer health outcomes, social exclusion, and family-law challenges as systemic equality gaps; not as personal failings."

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Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers?
Reply #10 - Jan 2^nd, 2026 at 12:52pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 11:09am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:15am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:23am:

The conservative side has so many important influencers

Trump
Jordan peterson
Joe rogan
Elon Musk
Ben Shapiro.
Tucker.
Pauline
Peter thielle.
Charlie Kirk ( well killing him is one way to try to get even)
Hannity
Megan Kelly
John Anderson
Victor Hansen.

Who have the left got?

Greta
AOC
Bernie.
Rachel maddow
Thorpe.
Noam chomsky

Why are the left so ignored irrelevant and flaccid ?

You left out Mamdani; and none of that list are "flaccid".

Meanwhile, AOC and Bernie are rejected by mainstream politicians (Left and Right) who blindly subscribe to mainstream Neoclassical economics - the real villains in the current hyperpartisan democracies.

"It's the economy, stupid".

They're as flaccid as you. And that's limp writ large.

Your error: Mamdani (you know... the guy Trump called "a lunatic communist" before he was elected NY mayor, and hence invited to the WH) charmed the famously volatile Trump....

Definitely NOT flaccid.

And Bernie, also definitely not flaccid - was rejected by the flaccid Dem party machine in 2016. Bernie might well have defeated Trump in that election if he, not Hilary, was Trump's opponent that year.

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Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers?
Reply #11 - Jan 2^nd, 2026 at 1:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 11:21am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:16am:

The Left have lost in America.
Been booted out of Argentina.
...but they have now taken over Australia and made it a State of New Zealand's Oceania

Nahh - the Kiwis kicked out Jacinda Ardern the communist.

Because she was 'flaccid Left', and captured by Neoclassical economics.

The question for the Left today is: are they gutsy enough to force multi-millionaires and billionaires to fund essential social services...

Or alternatively, introduce some central planning to manage resource mobilzation and allocation, in order to avoid governement having to tax and borrow from the private sector....

Your choice; either way, something's got to give, otherwise democacy fails as 'austerity' leads to social unrest and collapse of indebted governments.

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Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers?
Reply #12 - Jan 2^nd, 2026 at 1:19pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2026 at 1:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 11:21am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 10:16am:

The Left have lost in America.
Been booted out of Argentina.
...but they have now taken over Australia and made it a State of New Zealand's Oceania

Nahh - the Kiwis kicked out Jacinda Ardern the communist.

Because she was 'flaccid Left', and captured by Neoclassical economics.

The question for the Left today is: are they gutsy enough to force multi-millionaires and billionaires to fund essential social services...

Or alternatively, introduce some central planning to manage resource mobilzation and allocation, in order to avoid governement having to tax and borrow from the private sector....

Your choice; either way, something's got to give, otherwise democacy fails as 'austerity' leads to social unrest and collapse of indebted governments.

central planning ? - sounds like the CCP ? Embarrassed

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19812 Gender:	Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers? Reply #13 - Jan 2^nd, 2026 at 1:27pm Quote: Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers? They are only "influential" if what they are saying strikes a chord with those they are trying to influence. Albo fas hubris. I suspect he will try to tough it out.
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Re: Where are the important Leftie Influencers?
Reply #14 - Jan 2^nd, 2026 at 1:35pm

lee wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2026 at 1:27pm:

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They are only "influential" if what they are saying strikes a chord with those they are trying to influence. Albo fas hubris. I suspect he will try to tough it out.

He won in 2025. Let's see if he can deliver enough by 2028, to win again.

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