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Reply #30 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:02am

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 28^th, 2025 at 2:12pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 28^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 12:03pm:

tallowood wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 10:05am:

Home affairs minister would not say whether specific phrases such as 'globalise the intifada' would be banned under proposed laws.

I'm sure FD wouldn't allow that anyway, or any other incitement to violence.

And all the anti-Semitism, anti-Israeli & pro-Palestinian terrorist supporting from those here????? Yes?

Most people who support the 2 state solution are not anti-Semites or terrorists.

For my part I think Palestine should never have been partitioned - but given it was, then the Palestinian state should have been recognised at the same time as the Israeli state, as per UN res 181, with the UNSC exercising its power to keep the peace.

You?

Pretty much everyone supports the two state solution. Except groups like Hamas and their Muslim supporters who will only be satisfied with wiping out the Jews, and refuse to establish a functioning state until that happens.

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Reply #31 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:07am

Gnads wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 6:46am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 28^th, 2025 at 2:12pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 28^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 12:03pm:

tallowood wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 10:05am:

Home affairs minister would not say whether specific phrases such as 'globalise the intifada' would be banned under proposed laws.

I'm sure FD wouldn't allow that anyway, or any other incitement to violence.

And all the anti-Semitism, anti-Israeli & pro-Palestinian terrorist supporting from those here????? Yes?

Most people who support the 2 state solution are not anti-Semites or terrorists.

For my part I think Palestine should never have been partitioned - but given it was, then the Palestinian state should have been recognised at the same time as the Israeli state, as per UN res 181, with the UNSC exercising its power to keep the peace.

You?

The 2 state solution is as big a pipe dream as Albos & Bowens Net Zero & Renewables policy.

You ignored my statement, namely "....the Palestinian state should have been recognised at the same time as the Israeli state, as per UN res 181, with the UNSC exercising its power to keep the peace".

Hence the rest of your post is the usual RW line, ie, ignore the UN and settle the dispute with war.

Deplorable.

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Re: Mass censorship - Are the days of ozpolitic over ?
Reply #32 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:30am

freediver wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:02am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 28^th, 2025 at 2:12pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 28^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 12:03pm:

tallowood wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 10:05am:

Home affairs minister would not say whether specific phrases such as 'globalise the intifada' would be banned under proposed laws.

I'm sure FD wouldn't allow that anyway, or any other incitement to violence.

And all the anti-Semitism, anti-Israeli & pro-Palestinian terrorist supporting from those here????? Yes?

Most people who support the 2 state solution are not anti-Semites or terrorists.

For my part I think Palestine should never have been partitioned - but given it was, then the Palestinian state should have been recognised at the same time as the Israeli state, as per UN res 181, with the UNSC exercising its power to keep the peace.

You?

Pretty much everyone supports the two state solution.

Except Netanyahu.....and Hamas.

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Except groups like Hamas and their Muslim supporters who will only be satisfied with wiping out the Jews, and refuse to establish a functioning state until that happens.

Noted above.

So, in the absence of a UNSC which can maintain the peace, we have endless war.

For my part, I despise ideology based on O.T. "Chosen People" and "Promised Land" ideology, because the description of god-ordained genocide in the OT is graphic and revolting.

Likewise the Koran describes punishment for 'Infidels' in detail - not quite as revolting as in the O.T.

Hence sections of both scriptures need to be heavily proscribed by an agency of the UN set up for that purpose.

Then the UNGA will have something concrete to debate re ending the endless war.

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Reply #33 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:50am

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Except Netanyahu

The last thing Netanyahu wants is a single state.

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For my part, I despise ideology based on O.T. "Chosen People" and "Promised Land" ideology

The ideology that has caused the most human deaths and suffering in the history of the world is communism. But you lap that one up.

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Reply #34 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 11:16am

freediver wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:50am:

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Except Netanyahu

The last thing Netanyahu wants is a single state.

Haven't you heard: "there will never be a Palestinian State"....

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TGDFor my part, I despise ideology based on O.T. "Chosen People" and "Promised Land" ideology

The ideology that has caused the most human deaths and suffering in the history of the world is communism. But you lap that one up.

Nice diversion from the topic of gruesome OT and Koranic scripture; but here are your errors re communist ideology:

1. Marx created 'communist' ideology because capitalism during the Industrial Revolution grossly oppressed workers.

2. 'Communist' revolutions in Russia and China were supposed to change the status quo in their largely subsistence-agriculture economies.

3. Stalin and the CCP were able to quickly industrialize Russia and China.

4. The USSR collapsed through internal weakness caused by a wholly command-economy model; whereas after Deng, China has absorbed some private enterprise principles.

Note: the French Revolution happened before Marx; confiscation of the aristocracy's wealth was the driving force of the revolution, while the communist revolutions sought to change the means of production.

As for the CCP, it has eradicated poverty at the fastest rate in history, post Deng, and is now the world's largest trading nation, while the "free" world is descending into political hyper-partisanship.

"It's the economy, stupid".

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Reply #35 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 11:22am

freediver wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:50am:

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Except Netanyahu

The last thing Netanyahu wants is a single state.

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For my part, I despise ideology based on O.T. "Chosen People" and "Promised Land" ideology

The ideology that has caused the most human deaths and suffering in the history of the world is communism. But you lap that one up.

Are you saying that TGD is a commie? Undecided

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Reply #36 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 11:39am

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:07am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 6:46am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 28^th, 2025 at 2:12pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 28^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 12:03pm:

tallowood wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 10:05am:

Home affairs minister would not say whether specific phrases such as 'globalise the intifada' would be banned under proposed laws.

I'm sure FD wouldn't allow that anyway, or any other incitement to violence.

And all the anti-Semitism, anti-Israeli & pro-Palestinian terrorist supporting from those here????? Yes?

Most people who support the 2 state solution are not anti-Semites or terrorists.

For my part I think Palestine should never have been partitioned - but given it was, then the Palestinian state should have been recognised at the same time as the Israeli state, as per UN res 181, with the UNSC exercising its power to keep the peace.

You?

The 2 state solution is as big a pipe dream as Albos & Bowens Net Zero & Renewables policy.

You ignored my statement, namely "....the Palestinian state should have been recognised at the same time as the Israeli state, as per UN res 181, with the UNSC exercising its power to keep the peace".

Hence the rest of your post is the usual RW line, ie, ignore the UN and settle the dispute with war.

Deplorable.

What's deplorable is you insisting that the so called Palestinian Arabs would have accepted it.

They do not want the Jews or the Jewish state of Israel to exist.

You & your hindsight is an irrelevance.

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You can't help but... with 20/20 hindsight, go back and say, 'Look, had we done something different, we probably wouldn't be facing what we are facing today.'

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Re: Mass censorship - Are the days of ozpolitic over ?
Reply #38 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 11:48am

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 11:16am:

freediver wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 8:50am:

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Except Netanyahu

The last thing Netanyahu wants is a single state.

Haven't you heard: "there will never be a Palestinian State"....

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TGDFor my part, I despise ideology based on O.T. "Chosen People" and "Promised Land" ideology

The ideology that has caused the most human deaths and suffering in the history of the world is communism. But you lap that one up.

Nice diversion from the topic of gruesome OT and Koranic scripture; but here are your errors re communist ideology:

1. Marx created 'communist' ideology because capitalism during the Industrial Revolution grossly oppressed workers.

2. 'Communist' revolutions in Russia and China were supposed to change the status quo in their largely subsistence-agriculture economies.

3. Stalin and the CCP were able to quickly industrialize Russia and China.

4. The USSR collapsed through internal weakness caused by a wholly command-economy model; whereas after Deng, China has absorbed some private enterprise principles.

Note: the French Revolution happened before Marx; confiscation of the aristocracy's wealth was the driving force of the revolution, while the communist revolutions sought to change the means of production.

As for the CCP, it has eradicated poverty at the fastest rate in history, post Deng, and is now the world's largest trading nation, while the "free" world is descending into political hyper-partisanship.

"It's the economy, stupid".

Are you trying to contradict my statement, or just offer lames excuses for the hundreds of millions of people killed by communism?

The ideology that has caused the most human deaths and suffering in the history of the world is communism. But you lap that one up.

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Reply #40 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 7:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 12:55pm:

Just like protesting or marching under Albo Labor majority government it will only be allowed if you are pro Palestinian terror organisations.

I'm not sure why you lie so much. Albo and his Government doesn't approve any Terrorism. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

They've silently condoned it by their actions(recognising a state of Palestine in the UN) and by their non action against Islamic hate preachers & the the pro-Palestinian(terrorist controlled groups) protesters waving terrorist flags chanting terrorist slogans in our streets & on our Uni campuses for the past 2 years.

Albanese even got on the phone to Mahmoud Abbas head of Fattah, the PLO and Palestinian Authority... all controlled by HAMAS.

Stick to your pretense that you have any experience in any dept ..... except being a complete numpty.

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Reply #41 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 7:37pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 7:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 12:55pm:

Just like protesting or marching under Albo Labor majority government it will only be allowed if you are pro Palestinian terror organisations.

I'm not sure why you lie so much. Albo and his Government doesn't approve any Terrorism. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

They've silently condoned it by their actions(recognising a state of Palestine in the UN) and by their non action against Islamic hate preachers & the the pro-Palestinian(terrorist controlled groups) protesters waving terrorist flags chanting terrorist slogans in our streets & on our Uni campuses for the past 2 years.

Albanese even got on the phone to Mahmoud Abbas head of Fattah, the PLO and Palestinian Authority... all controlled by HAMAS.

Stick to your pretense that you have any experience in any dept ..... except being a complete numpty.

For the sake of the argument, let's say that everything you say is true.

Why would Albo be condoning terrorism?

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Reply #42 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 7:38pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 28^th, 2025 at 9:59am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 28^th, 2025 at 9:35am:

Check it out Sad

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How the Israel lobby perverted the justice system. Police have dropped all charges against the man arrested at Bondi Beach for wearing an anti-Israel T shirt. After a year of court dates, strict bail and public scrutiny, the case ends without conviction and without explanation. This episode asks what that means for free speech in Australia and why the process itself became the punishment.

Arrested for a T Shirt: How Far Will Authorities Go to Silence Dissent | The West Report

Going to Bondi wearing that T-shirt is no dissent - it is calculated aggravation. Imagine if every Jewish household now was legally required to hold firearms licences and were licenced to open carry a sidearm? Imagine going to Bankistan and wearing a T-shirt saying "F**K Islam" ....

Cowards only go after decent people - clearly this guy has some issues that need to be addressed. Was his plea 'mental incapacity'?

The bloke didn't get what he deserved. What he had on his T-shirt was hate speech.

So phuk him and phuk the horse he rode in on.

What's he got to say now after the Bondi massacre by Islamic terrorists?

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Reply #43 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 7:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 7:37pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 7:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 12:55pm:

Just like protesting or marching under Albo Labor majority government it will only be allowed if you are pro Palestinian terror organisations.

I'm not sure why you lie so much. Albo and his Government doesn't approve any Terrorism. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

They've silently condoned it by their actions(recognising a state of Palestine in the UN) and by their non action against Islamic hate preachers & the the pro-Palestinian(terrorist controlled groups) protesters waving terrorist flags chanting terrorist slogans in our streets & on our Uni campuses for the past 2 years.

Albanese even got on the phone to Mahmoud Abbas head of Fattah, the PLO and Palestinian Authority... all controlled by HAMAS.

Stick to your pretense that you have any experience in any dept ..... except being a complete numpty.

For the sake of the argument, let's say that everything you say is true.

Why would Albo be condoning terrorism?

Why did Albo do nothing(for 2 yrs) about the rise in anti-Semitism that led to the Bondi massacre?

He had plenty of warnings & advice.

Chose to do SFA. He has blood on his hands.

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Reply #44 - Dec 29^th, 2025 at 7:47pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 7:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 7:37pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 29^th, 2025 at 7:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 12:55pm:

Just like protesting or marching under Albo Labor majority government it will only be allowed if you are pro Palestinian terror organisations.

I'm not sure why you lie so much. Albo and his Government doesn't approve any Terrorism. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

They've silently condoned it by their actions(recognising a state of Palestine in the UN) and by their non action against Islamic hate preachers & the the pro-Palestinian(terrorist controlled groups) protesters waving terrorist flags chanting terrorist slogans in our streets & on our Uni campuses for the past 2 years.

Albanese even got on the phone to Mahmoud Abbas head of Fattah, the PLO and Palestinian Authority... all controlled by HAMAS.

Stick to your pretense that you have any experience in any dept ..... except being a complete numpty.

For the sake of the argument, let's say that everything you say is true.

Why would Albo be condoning terrorism?

Why did Albo do nothing(for 2 yrs) about the rise in anti-Semitism that led to the Bondi massacre?

He had plenty of warnings & advice.

Chose to do SFA. He has blood on his hands.

For the sake of the argument, let's say that everything you say is true.

Why would Albo be condoning terrorism?

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