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Reply #15 - Dec 24th, 2025 at 8:25am
 
Of course. But Anus Albo & his posse have basically cemented themselves behind their walls built by guns as the only cause and after Xmas, it will be business as usual as mainstream Media just do interviews on other topics to help them move on and leave Bondi behind and forget about Islam.
Nothing to see, move along. Let's talk about Climate Change and another Voice, etc.
This whole Bondi thing will be shut down come the New Year and the Moslems walk free once again.
Moslem: "I killed for Islam!"
Anus Albo:"Shhh. The gun made you do it."

Responsible gun owners pay the price and fees will increase, etc.
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Reply #16 - Dec 24th, 2025 at 1:39pm
 
When it comes to how Sajid Akram obtained a valid NSW Firearms Licence and eventually took possession of six long guns, there is the sense of a low-level bureaucrat sitting in a dusty office sifting through a lever arch file, looking for scraps of paper therein.

There has been a lot of erratic reporting on the guns used by the Akrams at Bondi where 15 innocents were slaughtered, largely because there has been nothing official coming from police or the security agencies. The most extensive declaration is that one of the long guns was a Beretta rifle.

I’ve contacted firearms experts to fill the information void. One, a former ADF member replied that he could not confirm the make and model of the shotgun wrestled from the arms of Sajid Akram by the hero Ahmed al-Ahmed but added, “I don’t think it’s pump (action) … looks like an aftermarket extended tube magazine, possibly eight rounds.”

This is confirmed by some of the amateur footage taken at Bondi Beach where on at least one occasion, Sajid Akram fired what appeared to be at least eight rounds without reloading.

Another expert in law enforcement believed the shotgun was a straight pull, which requires a simple, one step linear movement from the shooter to chamber a new round while extracting a spent round. In the arcane business of firearms, it would not be deemed semiautomatic but it does provide the next step down in terms of firing multiple rounds rapidly.


In any event, the shotgun should have been prohibited from purchase by Sajid Akram or anyone else with an AB firearms licence in New South Wales. Indeed anyone with a more advanced BC licence would still be limited to a five plus one capacity (one round in the chamber with a magazine or tube containing another five rounds). An eight or nine round capacity would only be lawful in the hands of ADF personnel and law enforcement. Obviously magazine extensions can be purchased on the black market but the fact remains, Akram’s licence did not permit the purchase of this weapon in its standard form.

How did this happen? NSW Premier Chris Minns is not saying.

“We’ve been briefed on that aspect and all aspects of the person in custody and the perpetrator who’s been killed,” Minns said. “But I’m not trying to be coy. I just want to make sure that anything we give you, particularly in relation to … these two perpetrators, is 100 per cent accurate.

“I know people want to get to the bottom of it. It’s one of the reasons why we want a comprehensive, independent royal comm­ission to understand these circumstances.’

We don’t need a royal commission to establish basic facts. We need some honesty. If mistakes have been made, let the chips fall where they may


The Australian has determined Sajid Akram purchased a shotgun (believed to be the second of two he possessed) on September 5. There is a paper trail associated with legal exchange of firearms where the vendor and buyer sign a Permit to Acquire or PTA. Clearly there are problems, not with the laws as they stand but how they are administered and policed. Also sitting in the murk is the answer as to why Sajid Akram made an application for a NSW firearms licence in 2020 and received it not three months but three years later. Akram’s first application made in 2016, did not contain photographic ID and lapsed shortly afterwards.

This is time for truth and honesty. It is not time to obfuscate. Nor is it time to protect institutional reputations. It is true that a royal commission would get some answers to the obvious anomalies but it would take more than a year and possibly longer to obtain what should be information in the public domain.

Meanwhile, the Minns government is moving forward in a special sitting of parliament to vote on new gun laws. Individual gun owners would be restricted to a maximum of four firearms per person with the exception of farmers and sports shooters who would be limited to ten. Magazines will be restricted on Class A and B weapons to between five and ten rounds from the current unlimited capacity. Renewal of gun licences would be required every two years, reduced from five under current laws.


If I hear one more call for a National Firearms Registry, I will scream.

After the Wieambilla ambush where two police officers and a neighbour were shot dead by Gareth, Nathaniel and Stacy Train in the Western Downs region of Queensland in December 2022, the Albanese government announced a policy to create a National Firearms Registry. Two years later nothing of any substance has been done and the ambition sits as a footnote on the agenda items of the national cabinet.

No state in Australia is ready for it. Queensland and Tasmania were at least honest enough to concede they are unprepared for a national firearms registry and put their hands out for federal funding to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. New South Wales boasted their practices (largely digitising firearms licence records) have proven hollow.

Carts are being placed before horses. Minns’s boast of creating the toughest gun laws in the country will probably come to pass but surely the ambition should not be a legislative scramble involving another buy-back scheme to reduce the number of firearms in the possession of law-abiding gun owners. The objective must be ensuring access to firearms to extremists and Islamist terrorists is zero.

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Reply #17 - Dec 24th, 2025 at 3:04pm
 
I know Robert Borsak from the Shooters, etc Party isn't happy.
Not about tighter restrictions, but by the ramrod changes made by non expert ministers without consultation or advice.
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Reply #18 - Dec 24th, 2025 at 9:57pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 23rd, 2025 at 5:52pm:
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‘Shambles’: Why it took years for Sajid Akram to obtain a gun licence


Slain Bondi gunman Sajid Akram’s long delays in obtaining a NSW gun licence were because the system was “a shambles” and based on paper records and did not involve any red flags being raised, according to NSW government insiders.

Mystery has surrounded why it took so long for the 50-year-old to secure a gun licence and why he didn’t raise red flags given the fact his son had been assessed by ASIO just a few years earlier.

NSW Police Commissioner Mal Lanyon confirmed last week that he first applied for a 2015 licence, but his application lapsed when he failed to provide a photograph.

“A second category A/B licence was applied for Mr Akram in 2020. That licence was recommended for issue and issued in 2023.”

When he reapplied in 2020 and was granted the licence in 2023 — it was four years after his son, Naveed Akram, 24, first came to the attention of ASIO. ASIO did not regard him as an ongoing threat at that time.

At the time, there was no link up with the NSW gun licensing body and families of people who had come to the attention of ASIO.

Instead, officials claim that until just a few years ago most of the records at the gun licence body were paper based and the system was “a shambles” until it was digitised.

This appears to have coincided around the same time that Sajid secured his licence.

Sajid legally owned six rifles and shotguns. He had category AB firearm licence, and was legally in possession of six guns, according to the NSW Police Commissioner.
( they never mention the illegal Rem 870 pump action wonder why?)

Independent NSW MP Phil Donato, a former police prosecutor and licensed firearms holder, has raised questions about the long waiting period Sajid faced for his gun licence.

“I’ve never in my experience heard of someone waiting three years for an approval to be granted by the firearms registry,” he told The Australian on Monday.

“It begs the question — what was the reason for the delay? I don’t accept it was a backlog of applications or being understaffed at the registry.”


Whether it was a delay because the registry was “a shambles” or not, gun purchases made by Sajid in September 2023 should have caught the attention of authorities.

Red flag over three identical guns
Under the national firearm agreement, the purchase of several identical guns should have triggered an investigation.


Police allege the bulky items loaded into their vehicle included two single barrel shotguns, a Beretta rifle, four homemade improvised explosive devices — three pipe bombs, one tennis ball bomb, one large IED bomb — and two Islamic State flags.

“The Accused and (Sajid Akram) used three firearms in their possession to shoot at a large number of people gathered for a Jewish event named ‘Chanukah by the Sea 2025,” the police facts allege.

“Together, the Accused and his father shot and killed 15 people. A further 40 victims were wounded by their gunfire, including two responding NSW Police officers who attended the scene.

Family home, Airbnb searched
After the Bondi attack, police searched the family home in Bonnyrigg,allegedly finding a homemade firearm
When police searched the Campsie Airbnb premises they allegedly found a rifle, a shotgun and bomb-making equipment.


https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/shambles-why-it-took-years-f...



For some reason his license was delayed for 3 years which is unheard of nobody waits that long for approval.

Background checks are mandatory it's absurd to claim police from firearms registry aren't contacting ASIO with background checks.
A reasonable person would expect Police to contact ASIO with every background check for firearms license application and for ASIO to mention someone in the same house has friends in ISIS jailed for terrorist offences

When you apply for a Permit To Acquire for firearm purchase the police will query why you need another of that type and calibre. It's unheard of for them to approve 2 identical rifles or shotguns for hunters.
Why did they approve 2 identical Browning X Bolt Straight pull rifles in .308?
Why did they approve 2 identical Stoeger shotguns?
The Police have to approve every purchase before issuing a PTA.

When they raided his house they found an illegal home made gun. If they find any illegal or unregistered guns with safe storage inspections they leave with all of your guns.

If the Firearms registry is a shambles as the government claims it might explain why they gave him a license.
There were numerous things he should have been flagged on they failed big time.


Here we have the government admitting the NSW Firearms registry is a shambles.

Now they want to combine the shambles that is most states firearm registries into an even bigger shambles with national firearms registry.

It will be costly for taxpayers if the $96 million for weather website is a typical example with Labor pissing taxpayers money up the wall.
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Reply #19 - Dec 24th, 2025 at 10:35pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2025 at 1:39pm:
There has been a lot of erratic reporting on the guns used by the Akrams at Bondi where 15 innocents were slaughtered, largely because there has been nothing official coming from police or the security agencies. The most extensive declaration is that one of the long guns was a Beretta rifle.

I’ve contacted firearms experts to fill the information void. One, a former ADF member replied that he could not confirm the make and model of the shotgun wrestled from the arms of Sajid Akram by the hero Ahmed al-Ahmed but added, “I don’t think it’s pump (action) … looks like an aftermarket extended tube magazine, possibly eight rounds.”

This is confirmed by some of the amateur footage taken at Bondi Beach where on at least one occasion, Sajid Akram fired what appeared to be at least eight rounds without reloading.

Another expert in law enforcement believed the shotgun was a straight pull, which requires a simple, one step linear movement from the shooter to chamber a new round while extracting a spent round.


In any event, the shotgun should have been prohibited from purchase by Sajid Akram or anyone else with an AB firearms licence in New South Wales. Indeed anyone with a more advanced BC licence would still be limited to a five plus one capacity (one round in the chamber with a magazine or tube containing another five rounds). An eight or nine round capacity would only be lawful in the hands of ADF personnel and law enforcement

How did this happen? NSW Premier Chris Minns is not saying.

“I know people want to get to the bottom of it. It’s one of the reasons why we want a comprehensive, independent royal comm­ission to understand these circumstances.’

We don’t need a royal commission to establish basic facts. We need some honesty. If mistakes have been made, let the chips fall where they may

This is time for truth and honesty. It is not time to obfuscate. Nor is it time to protect institutional reputations. It is true that a royal commission would get some answers to the obvious anomalies but it would take more than a year and possibly longer to obtain what should be information in the public domain.

Meanwhile, the Minns government is moving forward in a special sitting of parliament to vote on new gun laws. Individual gun owners would be restricted to a maximum of four firearms per person with the exception of farmers and sports shooters who would be limited to ten. Magazines will be restricted on Class A and B weapons to between five and ten rounds from the current unlimited capacity. Renewal of gun licences would be required every two years, reduced from five under current laws.

If I hear one more call for a National Firearms Registry, I will scream.

The objective must be ensuring access to firearms to extremists and Islamist terrorists is zero.

Jack the Insider


They had 3 shotguns which is probably why some are confused.
Police mentioned remington 870 on the day of shooting you can see older terrorist cycle the pump action after shooting Russian Jew.
He lost this gun to the Syrian you can see it's a 870 in videos next to tree.
The other were Stoeger.
Straight pull is not as fast as pump action which allows you to keep finger on trigger when pumping straight pull requires you to use trigger finger to cycle action.

If Police did safe storage inspection they would have noticed lengthened magazines on shotguns and confiscated them as they're illegal.

The State firearms registries are a shambles according to NSW Government Qld also a shambles.

A national registry will replicate all the failure in state registries making it a huge clusterfvkk of epic proportions costing hundred of millions.

Meanwhile Labor refuses to address the root core of the problem which is Islamic terrorism.
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Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:52am:
Jasin wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:23am:
Can anyone post me a gun?



Bloody guns - I hate them.

I'd like to live in a world where not even the cops need guns.

You live in a country where you can post those opinions, just remember that it was your countrymen (and others) with guns from 1939 to 1945 who stopped the takeover of your country and preserved your freedom.

A world without guns would be a world ruled by the sword, literally.
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Reply #21 - Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:30am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:52am:
Jasin wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:23am:
Can anyone post me a gun?



Bloody guns - I hate them.

I'd like to live in a world where not even the cops need guns.

You live in a country where you can post those opinions, just remember that it was your countrymen (and others) with guns from 1939 to 1945 who stopped the takeover of your country and preserved your freedom.

A world without guns would be a world ruled by the sword, literally.

Where are you Bobby?
Seven days and no response.
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Reply #22 - Jan 29th, 2026 at 12:10pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:30am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:52am:
Jasin wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:23am:
Can anyone post me a gun?



Bloody guns - I hate them.

I'd like to live in a world where not even the cops need guns.

You live in a country where you can post those opinions, just remember that it was your countrymen (and others) with guns from 1939 to 1945 who stopped the takeover of your country and preserved your freedom.

A world without guns would be a world ruled by the sword, literally.

Where are you Bobby?
Seven days and no response.



To repeat: guns should be prohibited except for special police units,  and licensed animal eradicators.

Gun-sport clubs?  - it's time to move beyond Neanderthal 'hunting' instincts.

And a world 'ruled by the sword'  also needs to change,  under a rules-based system, first attempted but botched in 1945 at the founding of the UN Charter.

You can't turn back the clock: the movement toward implementation of effective  international law is inexorable - and can only be stopped by annihilation of the species in a nuclear war.   
     
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Reply #23 - Jan 29th, 2026 at 4:41pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:30am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:52am:
Jasin wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:23am:
Can anyone post me a gun?



Bloody guns - I hate them.

I'd like to live in a world where not even the cops need guns.

You live in a country where you can post those opinions, just remember that it was your countrymen (and others) with guns from 1939 to 1945 who stopped the takeover of your country and preserved your freedom.

A world without guns would be a world ruled by the sword, literally.

Where are you Bobby?
Seven days and no response.


I'm still here.

I'd still like to live in a world where guns are not needed
except for professional shooters hunting vermin and feral pests.
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Reply #24 - Jan 29th, 2026 at 9:07pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 12:10pm:
Gun-sport clubs?  - it's time to move beyond Neanderthal 'hunting' instincts.
     


Target shooting is an Olympic sport we have won numerous medals including Gold.

Target shooters have to be a member of target shooting club which is a Gun sport club.

If your genuine reason for gun license in Australia is Target shooting you are not allowed to hunt with firearm.
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Reply #25 - Jan 31st, 2026 at 12:27pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 4:41pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:30am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:52am:
Jasin wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:23am:
Can anyone post me a gun?



Bloody guns - I hate them.

I'd like to live in a world where not even the cops need guns.

You live in a country where you can post those opinions, just remember that it was your countrymen (and others) with guns from 1939 to 1945 who stopped the takeover of your country and preserved your freedom.

A world without guns would be a world ruled by the sword, literally.

Where are you Bobby?
Seven days and no response.


I'm still here.

I'd still like to live in a world where guns are not needed
except for professional shooters hunting vermin and feral pests.

What would you do about the swords, battle axes, maces and knives in general?
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Reply #26 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 3:16pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 31st, 2026 at 12:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 4:41pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 29th, 2026 at 11:30am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:52am:
Jasin wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:23am:
Can anyone post me a gun?



Bloody guns - I hate them.

I'd like to live in a world where not even the cops need guns.

You live in a country where you can post those opinions, just remember that it was your countrymen (and others) with guns from 1939 to 1945 who stopped the takeover of your country and preserved your freedom.

A world without guns would be a world ruled by the sword, literally.

Where are you Bobby?
Seven days and no response.


I'm still here.

I'd still like to live in a world where guns are not needed
except for professional shooters hunting vermin and feral pests.

What would you do about the swords, battle axes, maces and knives in general?

Strange silence.
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Reply #27 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 6:49pm
 
Who needs guns now.

Just a Playstation and a drone and I can take out someone I don't like without the effort of actually being there and putting my own life in danger.
In fact, I can sit back on my recliner with my mini fridge full of piss.
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Reply #28 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 8:48pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 6:49pm:
Who needs guns now.

Just a Playstation and a drone and I can take out someone I don't like without the effort of actually being there and putting my own life in danger.
In fact, I can sit back on my recliner with my mini fridge full of piss.

You’ll need some explosives but a bit of chemistry knowledge and a visit to your local supermarket will get you the ingredients, you’ll need ignition, percussion caps from a gun store require a firearms licence but percussion caps from a toy shop are completely unrestricted.
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