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Re: Bondi massacre a failure of assimilation
Reply #30 - Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 7:35pm

Valkie wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 2:34pm:

The bastards had improvised explosive devices:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/21/australia/australia-bondi-beach-allegations-i...

The alleged facts state the pair threw four improvised devices at the crowd, moments before they started shooting, though none of them detonated. The document states the three pipe bombs and a tennis ball bomb were all viable.

Images of the IEDs were included in document, including a fifth suspected bomb placed in the trunk of the vehicle they used to drive to Bondi to carry out the attack.

So, not only were they Satan worshipers, morons and murderers.
Try were too stupid to build a bomb.

That would be right
Only retards belong to Islam.
And only even more retarded support Satan's own.

No wonder china has declared Islam a mental illness.

Only Trump would know what to do.

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Reply #32 - Dec 23^rd, 2025 at 10:26am

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 6:03pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21^st, 2025 at 1:57pm:

MattE wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.

Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism - "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find....

This is just idiotic.

Let's read on, to see if you defend that claim....

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You are a Chinese patriot, scoundrel.

No I'm not, though I do like consistent, goal-oriented (sustainable prosperity for all) 5 year planning by a government, in contrast to the endless policy reversals of adversarial rule in the blind-leading-the-blind democracies maintaining entrenched socio-economc disadvantage.

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Muslims can't fit into Australia because of Israel - that is as moronic as the rest of your moronic blathering.

IS supporters of the 'Universal Caliphate' obviously can't assimilate with ANY non-Koranic culture (such assimilation is against 'god's' sovereignty, in their eyes) ; and the oppression of Muslims in Palestine by 'infidels' turns Muslim ideology into actual IS global terrorism.

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Reply #33 - Dec 23^rd, 2025 at 10:50am

The ultimate aim of the ISIS ideology is that they want to see a divided world. They wanted a world in which they can have enemies, be them due to difference in race, or religion, it does not matter to them. Because, they can only thrive in a world of chaos rather than peace.

They wanted us to believe that people that are different cannot co-exist together, and that there is only place reserved in heaven is for people like themselves. By carrying out terrorist attacks, they seek to divide us. And while we are fighting against each other for whom to blame, they thrive in chaos, and gain more recruits.

In the aftermath of one of the worst terrorist attack in Australia, whilst we have a chorus of voices like Tony Abbot calling for division and blame. However in reality, the nation has come together in unity. I see even while the two terrorist are conducting attacks, Australians, or human being of all races and religion came together to stop them. There are police, ambulance officers, doctors, nurses, tourist, just random members of public from different racial and religious backgrounds working together to protect and to save the victims. And even days after, long lines would form outside blood banks.

No I refuse to give in to the idea that Bondi massacre is a failure of assimilation. It is what likes of Tony Abbot wants to believe, and it is what ISIS want us to believe. I WILL not give in to their ideology. I believe Bondi Massacre is an act of terrorism, but its has bought out the best of what is a true Australia, and a success story of multiculturalism.

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Reply #34 - Dec 23^rd, 2025 at 11:47am

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 3:54pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 12:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21^st, 2025 at 3:10pm:

MattE wrote on Dec 21^st, 2025 at 2:42pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21^st, 2025 at 1:57pm:

MattE wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.

Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism - "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find....

There is nothing wrong with patriotism.

It is nationalist sentiment which can become evil.

...just as claims by 'infidels' re ownership of Muslim land can lead to evil.

So why are Jews considered to be Infidels by Muslims?

and you're so knowledgeable? Grin

Feel free to point out my errors

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Everyone who is not Muslim are the Infidels.

Correct - as is the case for all religions? (see my post above).

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Jews just hold a more hateful place in their hearts.

So in that all I can hope is that the Israelis keep kicking their sorry arses in the ME ......

So you disagree with Trump who says "Israel will never annex the WB"?

Netanyahu is doing Israel's reputation in the world no favours, by relentlessly annexing the WB.

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and the western democracies that have allowed unfettered Islamic immigration wake up to themselves.... stop self loathing, realise you've been played & start playing hardball, jail or deport hate preaching Imans & start saying no to Islamic demands, especially in regards to more mosques or Islamic centres that teach the hate.

I agree we have a problem in multi-religious Oz....

My preference is to understand how to bring peace between all the religions who claim allegiance to the "One True God".

Ah no it's not.

Who said the Israelis were annexing the West Bank?

No we don't have a multi-religious problem ....

we have a problem with 1. Islam & it's fundamentalist muslims.

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Reply #35 - Dec 23^rd, 2025 at 11:57am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 6:56pm:

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Bondi massacre a failure of assimilation

Yes they assimilated too many guns ?

Whose fault is that?

Certainly not the written gun laws....they are adequate.

the interpretation & application of those laws falls on the ASIO, AFP & Police then ultimately if advised the State & Fed Govts.

The fact that both father & son were interviewed by ASIO in 2019 should have sounded alarm bells.

It should have been flagged when the father applied for a gun license as a non citizen.... but the application was approved by the NSW Police Force's Firearms Registry.

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Reply #36 - Dec 23^rd, 2025 at 12:05pm

It's ok for Muslims to live in Israel and work in Israel.
It's ok for Muslims to travel into Israel to work.
It's ok for Moslems to have settlement in Israel.

But if Israelis have settlement in West Bank and Gaza.
They are killed, attacked and Leftism calls it invasion and genocide!!

This is the blatant bias that mainstream Media propaganda has delivered for decades.

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Re: Bondi massacre a failure of assimilation
Reply #37 - Dec 23^rd, 2025 at 12:15pm

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2025 at 10:50am:

The ultimate aim of the ISIS ideology is that they want to see a divided world. They wanted a world in which they can have enemies, be them due to difference in race, or religion, it does not matter to them. Because, they can only thrive in a world of chaos rather than peace.

They wanted us to believe that people that are different cannot co-exist together, and that there is only place reserved in heaven is for people like themselves. By carrying out terrorist attacks, they seek to divide us. And while we are fighting against each other for whom to blame, they thrive in chaos, and gain more recruits.

In the aftermath of one of the worst terrorist attack in Australia, whilst we have a chorus of voices like Tony Abbot calling for division and blame. However in reality, the nation has come together in unity. I see even while the two terrorist are conducting attacks, Australians, or human being of all races and religion came together to stop them. There are police, ambulance officers, doctors, nurses, tourist, just random members of public from different racial and religious backgrounds working together to protect and to save the victims. And even days after, long lines would form outside blood banks.

No I refuse to give in to the idea that Bondi massacre is a failure of assimilation. It is what likes of Tony Abbot wants to believe, and it is what ISIS want us to believe. I WILL not give in to their ideology. I believe Bondi Massacre is an act of terrorism, but its has bought out the best of what is a true Australia, and a success story of multiculturalism.

You have to be joking right?

The division & hate has been festering since Oct 7th 2023 when nothing was done about the "Gas the Jews"... pro-Palestinian demonstration on the steps of the Opera House & in the following 2 years of their rising anti-Semitism.....

7 days later Australia voted on a referendum as to whether a raced based recognition section into the constitution( divisive identity politics) & for the Govt to form a separate race based advisory body into our Parliament.

It was crushed 60% to 40%. It was nothing but divisive ....... yet State Labor Govts have gone against the vote of their citizens & are signing Treaties & implement an Aboriginal Voice to their Parliaments by stealth ....... without the permission of the voting public.

That is division.

And it has taken the boos & jeering of Albanese by Australians from all backgrounds & religions to wipe the smirk off his face ..... & maybe just maybe make him rethink his support of a Palestinian state & it's terrorist masters which has been a part of the problem along with his lack of action against the rising anti -Semitism for the past 2 years & it is on his hands.

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Re: Bondi massacre a failure of assimilation
Reply #38 - Dec 23^rd, 2025 at 12:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 7:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 7:17pm:

MattE wrote on Dec 21^st, 2025 at 2:42pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21^st, 2025 at 1:57pm:

MattE wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.

Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism - "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find....

There is nothing wrong with patriotism.

It is nationalist sentiment which can become evil.

The vast majority of right wing red necked nutters think ...

I've seen no evidence to support that.

You have a point.

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Question: Do you agree with Tony Abbott that the Bondi terrorist attack is a failure of assimilation?
Yes 12 (80.0%) No 3 (20.0%) Total votes: 15 This Poll ends automatically in 3 days, 10 hours and 23 minutes. « Created by: MattE on: Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:43pm »