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Question: Do you agree with Tony Abbott that the Bondi terrorist attack is a failure of assimilation?
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Re: Bondi massacre a failure of assimilation
Reply #15 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 10:05am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 3:10pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 2:42pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 1:57pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.



Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism  -  "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered  to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find.... 



There is nothing wrong with patriotism.

It is nationalist sentiment which can become evil.


...just as  claims by 'infidels'  re ownership of Muslim land can lead to evil.

So why are Jews considered to be Infidels by Muslims?

Because they aren’t Muslims.
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Reply #16 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 12:58pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 3:10pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 2:42pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 1:57pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.



Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism  -  "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered  to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find.... 



There is nothing wrong with patriotism.

It is nationalist sentiment which can become evil.


...just as  claims by 'infidels'  re ownership of Muslim land can lead to evil.

So why are Jews considered to be Infidels by Muslims?


and you're so knowledgeable?  Grin

Everyone who is not Muslim are the Infidels.

Jews just hold a more hateful place in their hearts.

So in that all I can hope is that the Israelis keep kicking their sorry arses in the ME ......

and the western democracies that have allowed unfettered Islamic immigration wake up to themselves.... stop self loathing, realise you've been played & start playing hardball, jail or deport hate preaching Imans & start saying no to Islamic demands, especially in regards to more mosques or Islamic centres that teach the hate.
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Re: Bondi massacre a failure of assimilation
Reply #17 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 2:34pm
 


The bastards had improvised explosive devices:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/21/australia/australia-bondi-beach-allegations-i...


The alleged facts state the pair threw four improvised devices at the crowd, moments before they started shooting, though none of them detonated. The document states the three pipe bombs and a tennis ball bomb were all viable.

Images of the IEDs were included in document, including a fifth suspected bomb placed in the trunk of the vehicle they used to drive to Bondi to carry out the attack.
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Re: Bondi massacre a failure of assimilation
Reply #18 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 3:39pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 22nd, 2025 at 10:05am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 3:10pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 2:42pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 1:57pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.



Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism  -  "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered  to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find.... 



There is nothing wrong with patriotism.

It is nationalist sentiment which can become evil.


...just as  claims by 'infidels'  re ownership of Muslim land can lead to evil.

So why are Jews considered to be Infidels by Muslims?

Because they aren’t Muslims.


Well, yes , but from the view of the Koran, which sees all the OT Prophets as messengers of God, prophets whom Jews themselves rejected from time to time: 

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Jewish history includes instances where people rejected specific Old Testament (OT) prophets (like Jeremiah or Micaiah), often violently, because their messages challenged leadership and traditions, but Judaism fully accepts the canon of OT prophets as God's messengers, though they believe the era of prophecy ended, and they reject figures like Jesus and Muhammad as fulfilling new prophecy because they claimed to supersede Torah or diverge from core Jewish monotheism

Hence the clashing theologies  of the "Peoples of the Book' on full display:

1. Jews rejected Christ as their long-awaited Messiah.

2. Christians deified Jesus as the Messiah, claiming him to be the Son of (the Jewish) god, via the fancy sophistry of the Trinity. 

3. Muhammud rejected the deity of Jesus  - the 'Son of God', considering the Trinity doctrine (3 gods in one) to be blaspemous and polytheistic.

So Jews and Muslims both reject the deity of Christ; while Muslims agree with Jews that Jahweh ('Allah' in Arabic), is the One True God, a stance rejected  by Jews and Christians.

Modern (non-fundamentalist) theologions are keen to emphasize the peace message of the 3 religions; the problem post 1948 is  the interaction of OT "Promised Land" fundamentalists - supported by RW Christians - against the Muslim inhabitants of Palestine, resulting in Muslim terrorism.

Making 'hate speech' a complex issue for the courts to unravel...

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Re: Bondi massacre a failure of assimilation
Reply #19 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 3:54pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2025 at 12:58pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 3:10pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 2:42pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 1:57pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.



Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism  -  "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered  to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find.... 



There is nothing wrong with patriotism.

It is nationalist sentiment which can become evil.


...just as  claims by 'infidels'  re ownership of Muslim land can lead to evil.

So why are Jews considered to be Infidels by Muslims?


and you're so knowledgeable?  Grin


Feel free to point out my errors

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Everyone who is not Muslim are the Infidels.


Correct -  as is the case for all religions? (see my post above).

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Jews just hold a more hateful place in their hearts.

So in that all I can hope is that the Israelis keep kicking their sorry arses in the ME ......


So you disagree with Trump who says "Israel will never annex the WB"?

Netanyahu is doing Israel's reputation in the world no favours, by relentlessly annexing the WB.

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and the western democracies that have allowed unfettered Islamic immigration wake up to themselves.... stop self loathing, realise you've been played & start playing hardball, jail or deport hate preaching Imans & start saying no to Islamic demands, especially in regards to more mosques or Islamic centres that teach the hate.


I agree we have a problem in multi-religious Oz....

My preference is to understand how to bring  peace between all the  religions who claim allegiance to the "One True God".
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Re: Bondi massacre a failure of assimilation
Reply #20 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 6:03pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 1:57pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.



Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism  -  "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered  to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find.... 


This is just idiotic.

You are a Chinese patriot, scoundrel.

Muslims can't fit into Australia because of Israel - that is as moronic as the rest of your moronic blathering.



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Reply #21 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 6:56pm
 
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Yes they assimilated too many guns ?
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Reply #22 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:01pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2025 at 6:03pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 1:57pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.



Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism  -  "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered  to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find.... 


This is just idiotic.

You are a Chinese patriot, scoundrel.

Muslims can't fit into Australia because of Israel - that is as moronic as the rest of your moronic blathering.





You need a new Icon Frank n furter.

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Reply #23 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:03pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2025 at 6:56pm:
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Bondi massacre a failure of assimilation


Yes they assimilated too many guns ?

That is just mindlessly idiotic even by your usual mindlessly idiotic duckwit standards, mindlessly idiotic duckwit.

But you will never understand it. That's who you are. Duckwittery.
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Reply #24 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:08pm
 
MattE wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 2:42pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 1:57pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.



Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism  -  "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered  to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find.... 



There is nothing wrong with patriotism.

It is nationalist sentiment which can become evil.


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Reply #25 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:17pm
 
MattE wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 2:42pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 1:57pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.



Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism  -  "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered  to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find.... 



There is nothing wrong with patriotism.

It is nationalist sentiment which can become evil.


The vast majority of right wing red necked nutters think that extreme nationalism combined with an extreme racial belief and patriotism are synonymous.
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Reply #26 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:24pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 22nd, 2025 at 2:34pm:
The bastards had improvised explosive devices:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/21/australia/australia-bondi-beach-allegations-i...


The alleged facts state the pair threw four improvised devices at the crowd, moments before they started shooting, though none of them detonated. The document states the three pipe bombs and a tennis ball bomb were all viable.

Images of the IEDs were included in document, including a fifth suspected bomb placed in the trunk of the vehicle they used to drive to Bondi to carry out the attack.


So, not only were they Satan worshipers, morons and murderers.
Try were too stupid to build a bomb.

That would be right
Only retards belong to Islam.
And only even more retarded support Satan's own.

No wonder china has declared Islam a mental illness.
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Reply #27 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:26pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:17pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 2:42pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 1:57pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.



Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism  -  "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered  to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find.... 



There is nothing wrong with patriotism.

It is nationalist sentiment which can become evil.


The vast majority of right wing red necked nutters think ...



I've seen no evidence to support that.
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Re: Bondi massacre a failure of assimilation
Reply #28 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:28pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:17pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 2:42pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 1:57pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.



Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism  -  "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered  to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find.... 



There is nothing wrong with patriotism.

It is nationalist sentiment which can become evil.


The vast majority of right wing red necked nutters think that extreme nationalism combined with an extreme racial belief and patriotism are synonymous.

Idiotic.

You put in those moronic words of 'extreme'  but they are meanigless. You mongs deploy extreme, ultra, fa right because you are too stupid.

There are many examles in history when patriotism was heroic and exemplary. You mongs cheapen an degrade it all, like everything yoh touch, by appending extreme, far right to it.
But you would die before you would draw the demarcation line between the two patriotism. You mongs just spout idiotic, mindless slogans precisely to save yourselves from thinking.
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Reply #29 - Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:32pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:28pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2025 at 7:17pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 2:42pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 1:57pm:
MattE wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Tony Abbott is so genuine. I have bet him at different events multiple times. He definitely isn't racist. He speaks this stuff from a place of patriotism, which is colourblind.



Abbott like you and me isnt a racist but ....beware of patriotism  -  "the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Assimilation is difficult for Muslims while Jews claim ownership of former Palestine, resulting in the endless war there since 1948.

Legal scholars need to consider WHY Jews are considered  to be infidels in Islam, but an honest jurist is hard to find.... 



There is nothing wrong with patriotism.

It is nationalist sentiment which can become evil.


The vast majority of right wing red necked nutters think that extreme nationalism combined with an extreme racial belief and patriotism are synonymous.

Idiotic.

You put in those moronic words of 'extreme'  but they are meanigless. You mongs deploy extreme, ultra, fa right because you are too stupid.

There are many examles in history when patriotism was heroic and exemplary. You mongs cheapen an degrade it all, like everything yoh touch, by appending extreme, far right to it.
But you would die before you would draw the demarcation line between the two patriotism. You mongs just spout idiotic, mindless slogans precisely to save yourselves from thinking.


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