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Reply #60 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:55pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:39pm:

Has any of this dribble got anything to do with the protest on Dec 28th ?

Does anyone know what this supposed protest is meant to be about ?

I have seen claims that it is about 10 different things ?

Depends what the protests are about. - anti semitism , or pro palestine; what do you think they will be about?

Oz day holiday and its date?

Pauline will be there...

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Pauline will be there.

Yuk.

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Reply #62 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:57pm

tallowood wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:39pm:

Arab leaders and the Arab Higher Committee rejected the United Nations partition plan (Resolution 181) of November 1947, which proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states.

Arabs preferred war, they got it, they lost it. "The People of Israel Live". End of story.

Not end of story see my post above.

Jews were sovereign in a state of Israel for c. 250 years only (out of c. 3000 years of Jewish existence), which doesn't earn them the right to ignore UN res 181 now.

The UN created the current mess, and the UN needs to fix it.

In the meantime, Jews need to stop celebrating their bronze age religion in public; their 'god' didn't preserve Israel as an independent state ... and the OT's "numerous as the stars" prediction also failed to materialise - there are about 17 million Jews in the world today cf over a billion each of Christians and Muslims.

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Reply #64 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:09pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:55pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:39pm:

Has any of this dribble got anything to do with the protest on Dec 28th ?

Does anyone know what this supposed protest is meant to be about ?

I have seen claims that it is about 10 different things ?

Depends what the protests are about. - anti semitism , or pro palestine; what do you think they will be about?

Oz day holiday and its date?

Pauline will be there...

If they want us to turn up don't you think they should tell us what we would be protesting ?

Yes.

But the topic here has been usurped by the current raging debate re 'antisemitism' and islamic terrorism.

(I admit I didn't read the OP; its seems Minns wants to ban all protests, you can see his motivation in the current climate...

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Reply #65 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:14pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:02pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 11:14am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 10:58am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 10:24am:

Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:-

Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947

The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947

True, the League of Nations granted the British a mandate over Palestine after WW1.

But the Mandate specified

No-one cares what the mandate specified. Not even the locals. Only little pinks who have deluded themselves into thinking the UN also granted China a mandate over Taiwan.

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Reply #66 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:19pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:05pm:

You're just trying to deny and make excuses TGD, against the inevitability of destiny I'm Israel replacing Islam as the Military Empire and Moslems replacing the Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism.
You won't accept both swapping each other's pasts for their futures.

Have a shot as refuting any of the points I'm making.

btw, the Jewish god is a 'man of war' who authorized genocide in excruciating detail - according to Jewish scripture itself (ie, the OT), which hardly ties in with your 'thesis' re "Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism".

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Reply #67 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:46pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

tallowood wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:39pm:

Arab leaders and the Arab Higher Committee rejected the United Nations partition plan (Resolution 181) of November 1947, which proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states.

Arabs preferred war, they got it, they lost it. "The People of Israel Live". End of story.

And they have kept Palistinians in the worlds largest outdoor prison for over 50 years while continually stealing more and more of their land in settlment year after year.

Nonsense.

The Palestinians could have accepted the UN resolution, formed their own state and developed alongside Israel instead of starting wars.

THey are contained ONLY because they cannot control themselves, they cannot focus on making a go at building a country, only on destroying a country, that is why they are contained.

Until 1967 all the Pallo territories of WB and Gaza were OUTSIDE Israeli control. They were occupied by Jordan and Egypt.
The WB oallos wee full citizens of Jordan, the second country of the two state solution. Gazans, on the other hand, were bared from Egypt even while Gaza was under Egyptian military control, ie ' open air prison' guarded by Egypt.
Nobody wants the buggers and they don't want a viable country of their own.

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Reply #68 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:49pm

freediver wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:14pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:02pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 11:14am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 10:58am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 10:24am:

Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:-

Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947

The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947

True, the League of Nations granted the British a mandate over Palestine after WW1.

But the Mandate specified

No-one cares what the mandate specified. Not even the locals.

Your error:

1. The locals consisted of majority Muslims and minority Jews, and they had very different views of the Mandate.

(Nice try but no cigar, try again..)

2. The whole world has signed up to UN res 181, in order to stop RW Jews and their supporters oppressing Muslims in what remains of Palestine.

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Only little pinks who have deluded themselves into thinking the UN also granted China a mandate over Taiwan.

Your error: the UN didn't "grant China a mandate over Taiwan" (as did the League when they granted Britain a mandate over Palestine); the UN recognised that the government of China ie, the ROChina headquatered on Taiwan, had changed to the PR(of)China with the capital in Beijing.

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Now..... I know acquiring self awarness is painful, but the days of RW 'might is right'/individual freedom ideology are numbered, if human civilization is to prosper in the Age of MAD.

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Reply #69 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:51pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:19pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:05pm:

You're just trying to deny and make excuses TGD, against the inevitability of destiny I'm Israel replacing Islam as the Military Empire and Moslems replacing the Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism.
You won't accept both swapping each other's pasts for their futures.

Have a shot as refuting any of the points I'm making.

btw, the Jewish god is a 'man of war' who authorized genocide in excruciating detail - according to Jewish scripture itself (ie, the OT), which hardly ties in with your 'thesis' re "Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism".

If I told you that the purpose of Islam & Israel are to Unite in the future via the release of Europe from Christianity oppression.
Palestinians attacking Israel goes against that Unification.
Unification is Peace.

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Reply #70 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:56pm

The Lord has spoken in truth and wisdom of the just. Behold and obey all ye of the chosen Man.
'The United States remains focused on keeping Israel secure and Gaza and the West Bank stable,” Jennifer Locetta told the UN Security Council on Tuesday.

“President Trump has been perfectly clear that the United States expects the violence in the West Bank to end, and that the United States will not allow the annexation of the West Bank,” she added.

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Reply #71 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:03pm

Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

tallowood wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:39pm:

Arab leaders and the Arab Higher Committee rejected the United Nations partition plan (Resolution 181) of November 1947, which proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states.

Arabs preferred war, they got it, they lost it. "The People of Israel Live". End of story.

And they have kept Palistinians in the worlds largest outdoor prison for over 50 years while continually stealing more and more of their land in settlment year after year.

Nonsense.

No, it's fact, despite yout blind assertions following,namely:

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The Palestinians could have accepted the UN resolution, formed their own state and developed alongside Israel instead of starting wars.

They could have .... if they were 'enlightened'..... , but accepting a Jewish state carved out of their land for the benefit of people judged by their religion to be 'Infidels' was an insult to their religion.

See the problem?

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THey are contained ONLY because they cannot control themselves, they cannot focus on making a go at building a country, only on destroying a country, that is why they are contained.

Until 1967 all the Pallo territories of WB and Gaza were OUTSIDE Israeli control. They were occupied by Jordan and Egypt.
The WB oallos wee full citizens of Jordan, the second country of the two state solution. Gazans, on the other hand, were bared from Egypt even while Gaza was under Egyptian military control, ie ' open air prison' guarded by Egypt.
Nobody wants the buggers and they don't want a viable country of their own.

Again, you are ignoring the insult to their religion, as a result of being told to give up land for Infidels, hence Egypt and Jordan also became involved.

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Reply #72 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:16pm

chimera wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:56pm:

The Lord has spoken in truth and wisdom of the just. Behold and obey all ye of the chosen Man.
'The United States remains focused on keeping Israel secure and Gaza and the West Bank stable,” Jennifer Locetta told the UN Security Council on Tuesday.

“President Trump has been perfectly clear that the United States expects the violence in the West Bank to end, and that the United States will not allow the annexation of the West Bank,” she added.

And yet the illegal WB settlements are increasing daily.

I think 'God' (Trump) has a blind eye....

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Reply #73 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:25pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:03pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

tallowood wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:39pm:

Arab leaders and the Arab Higher Committee rejected the United Nations partition plan (Resolution 181) of November 1947, which proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states.

Arabs preferred war, they got it, they lost it. "The People of Israel Live". End of story.

And they have kept Palistinians in the worlds largest outdoor prison for over 50 years while continually stealing more and more of their land in settlment year after year.

Nonsense.

No, it's fact, despite yout blind assertions following,namely:

Quote:

The Palestinians could have accepted the UN resolution, formed their own state and developed alongside Israel instead of starting wars.

They could have .... if they were 'enlightened'..... , but accepting a Jewish state carved out of their land for the benefit of people judged by their religion to be 'Infidels' was an insult to their religion.

See the problem?

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THey are contained ONLY because they cannot control themselves, they cannot focus on making a go at building a country, only on destroying a country, that is why they are contained.

Until 1967 all the Pallo territories of WB and Gaza were OUTSIDE Israeli control. They were occupied by Jordan and Egypt.
The WB oallos wee full citizens of Jordan, the second country of the two state solution. Gazans, on the other hand, were bared from Egypt even while Gaza was under Egyptian military control, ie ' open air prison' guarded by Egypt.
Nobody wants the buggers and they don't want a viable country of their own.

Again, you are ignoring the insult to their religion, as a result of being told to give up land for Infidels, hence Egypt and Jordan also became involved.

If was happening all over the world. Islam is not special.

Why didnt Egypt and Jordan create a Palestine or absorb the palestinians?
Why did the Muslims accept the creation of Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, after the demise of the Ottomans?

Whg weren't the Palestinyans not "enlightened"? Why aren't they still?

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Reply #74 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:27pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:51pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:19pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:05pm:

You're just trying to deny and make excuses TGD, against the inevitability of destiny I'm Israel replacing Islam as the Military Empire and Moslems replacing the Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism.
You won't accept both swapping each other's pasts for their futures.

Have a shot as refuting any of the points I'm making.

btw, the Jewish god is a 'man of war' who authorized genocide in excruciating detail - according to Jewish scripture itself (ie, the OT), which hardly ties in with your 'thesis' re "Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism".

If I told you that the purpose of Islam & Israel are to Unite in the future via the release of Europe from Christianity oppression.
Palestinians attacking Israel goes against that Unification.
Unification is Peace.

Sorry Jasin I'm having trouble deciphering your Prognostications.

If you surmise an intelligent, prosperous human civilization living is peace is "an inevitability", well that's a fine statement - except that men have to make it happen, I think.

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