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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #60 - Dec 19th, 2025 at 11:12am
 
https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/sick-perversion-tony-burke-hate-preach...

"Hate preachers and neo-Nazis spreading misinformation and radicalisation in Australia will face faster visa cancellations and deportations, with the Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke warning “a sick perversion of the concept of rights” is no longer acceptable.

Dismissing concerns the crackdown on anti-Semitic hate preachers could offend free speech, Mr Burke told news.com.au in an exclusive interview that he had no qualms about booting hate preachers out of the country.

“There are lots of things that I can understand that are described as rights, including the right to have a celebration at the beach,’’ he said.

“I cannot, for the life of me, think that someone can argue that you have a right to be brutally cruel to people in language that dehumanises them.

“I think that is a sick perversion of the concept of rights.

“The right that matters is the right to people’s safety. People need to have the right to reasonable political debate. I get all of that. But thinking you’ve got a right to be dehumanising to other people, I think it’s sick.”

Mr Burke said that under the new measures introduced in the wake of the Bondi terrorist attack, department staff will receive specialist anti‑Semitism and hate speech training starting next week.

This will enable them to make more rapid decisions on visa cancellations for individuals promoting extremist or dehumanising language.

The government plans further reforms next year, which would make it unlawful to use extreme dehumanising language, even if it does not explicitly incite violence — a step no federal government has taken before.

However, these changes will require legislation and careful drafting, with work underway in consultation with legal teams.

While the Opposition has called on the Albanese Government to recall parliament immediately, Mr Burke said the government wanted to take the time to legislate the new laws with care and precision to avoid legal challenge.

“Effectively, we want to get it right. The drafting is complex because every other Australian government has baulked,” Mr Burke said, emphasising that careful planning is needed before the laws reach parliament.

The minister said the training and delegation of powers would make visa cancellations faster and more efficient, allowing authorities to respond to threats before they escalate.

“Staff will be empowered to act quickly under clear legal guidance,” Mr Burke said. “This is about protecting the safety of all Australians while ensuring the law is applied effectively.”

Mr Burke said there were individuals who had managed to exploit freedom of speech protections and had gone right to the limits of language, but had not quite crossed the threshold to violence."
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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #61 - Dec 19th, 2025 at 11:23am
 
Why won’t he say exactly what it is?

Is he scared of everyone laughing at his stupid stuttering?

“Our” ABC is basically inventing words rather than saying-
Extreme Islam ☪️.

Why are they so afraid of those two words and telling the truth?
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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #62 - Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:08am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:15am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 9:50pm:
Bugger off, Yadda.  You know bugger all about Muslims and Islam.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

And what do you know?  You met Abdul and.... er... that's it.

Oh, and what the ABC tells you. Otherwise you are completely ignorant and bereft of any understanding.

Islamophobia, wacism, tut tuts and eyerolling - that is the sum total of your understanding.


No one sensible wants your Racism and Islamophobia, its just pure bigotry, Soren.  Run  along back to your Bridge you, Troll.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being critical of Islam, rejecting it completely or being fearful of its uniformly retrograde influence on everyone and everything.
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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #63 - Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:59pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:08am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:15am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 9:50pm:
Bugger off, Yadda.  You know bugger all about Muslims and Islam.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

And what do you know?  You met Abdul and.... er... that's it.

Oh, and what the ABC tells you. Otherwise you are completely ignorant and bereft of any understanding.

Islamophobia, wacism, tut tuts and eyerolling - that is the sum total of your understanding.


No one sensible wants your Racism and Islamophobia, its just pure bigotry, Soren.  Run  along back to your Bridge you, Troll.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being critical of Islam, rejecting it completely or being fearful of its uniformly retrograde influence on everyone and everything.


Be dismissive if you must be but stop the endless, ignorant insulting of Muslims, Soren.  What you think is your private affair.  We don't need to read about it every post.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using posting to the general forum now. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #64 - Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:59pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:08am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:15am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 9:50pm:
Bugger off, Yadda.  You know bugger all about Muslims and Islam.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

And what do you know?  You met Abdul and.... er... that's it.

Oh, and what the ABC tells you. Otherwise you are completely ignorant and bereft of any understanding.

Islamophobia, wacism, tut tuts and eyerolling - that is the sum total of your understanding.


No one sensible wants your Racism and Islamophobia, its just pure bigotry, Soren.  Run  along back to your Bridge you, Troll.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being critical of Islam, rejecting it completely or being fearful of its uniformly retrograde influence on everyone and everything.


Be dismissive if you must be but stop the endless, ignorant insulting of Muslims, Soren.  What you think is your private affair.  We don't need to read about it every post.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I am talking about Islam and your moronic Islamophobia. I am not talking about any particular person.
Islam is an ideology that can be accepted or rejected. Criticising and rejecting it is as a retrograde, corrosive ideology is a legitimate stance.

Vilifying any criticism of it as you do is moronic and totally dishonest. That is why you do it, that is why you instantly switch to 'oh, you ard insulting Muslims" when all I am doing is rejecting Islam and give reasons for the rejection.

You are not offering ANY reasoned defence of Islam, only vilification of its critics by instantly labelling them islamophobic and wacist.  That would be pathetically weak and childish even from an uneducated person but from a Doctor of Divinity like you who is "more educated than most here" by your own reckoning, it is outright moronic and pitifully piss-weak.

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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #65 - Dec 19th, 2025 at 3:04pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:59pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:08am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:15am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 9:50pm:
Bugger off, Yadda.  You know bugger all about Muslims and Islam.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

And what do you know?  You met Abdul and.... er... that's it.

Oh, and what the ABC tells you. Otherwise you are completely ignorant and bereft of any understanding.

Islamophobia, wacism, tut tuts and eyerolling - that is the sum total of your understanding.


No one sensible wants your Racism and Islamophobia, its just pure bigotry, Soren.  Run  along back to your Bridge you, Troll.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being critical of Islam, rejecting it completely or being fearful of its uniformly retrograde influence on everyone and everything.


Be dismissive if you must be but stop the endless, ignorant insulting of Muslims, Soren.  What you think is your private affair.  We don't need to read about it every post.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I am talking about Islam and your moronic Islamophobia. I am not talking about any particular person.


Islam is made up of, oops, guess who, Muslims, Soren.  Your bigotry blind you to the reality.  Its like claiming Naziism isn't made up of Nazis or Judaism isn't made up of Jews.  What a Wally you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #66 - Dec 19th, 2025 at 3:08pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 3:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:59pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:08am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:15am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 9:50pm:
Bugger off, Yadda.  You know bugger all about Muslims and Islam.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

And what do you know?  You met Abdul and.... er... that's it.

Oh, and what the ABC tells you. Otherwise you are completely ignorant and bereft of any understanding.

Islamophobia, wacism, tut tuts and eyerolling - that is the sum total of your understanding.


No one sensible wants your Racism and Islamophobia, its just pure bigotry, Soren.  Run  along back to your Bridge you, Troll.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being critical of Islam, rejecting it completely or being fearful of its uniformly retrograde influence on everyone and everything.


Be dismissive if you must be but stop the endless, ignorant insulting of Muslims, Soren.  What you think is your private affair.  We don't need to read about it every post.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I am talking about Islam and your moronic Islamophobia. I am not talking about any particular person.


Islam is made up of, oops, guess who, Muslims, Soren.  Your bigotry blind you to the reality.  Its like claiming Naziism isn't made up of Nazis or Judaism isn't made up of Jews.  What a Wally you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




So don't criticise Nazis because it might be insulting to Helmut.

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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #67 - Dec 19th, 2025 at 3:08pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 11:12am:

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/sick-perversion-tony-burke-hate-preach...

"Hate preachers and neo-Nazis spreading misinformation and radicalisation in Australia will face faster visa cancellations and deportations, with the Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke warning “a sick perversion of the concept of rights” is no longer acceptable.

Dismissing concerns the crackdown on anti-Semitic hate preachers could offend free speech, Mr Burke told news.com.au in an exclusive interview that he had no qualms about booting hate preachers out of the country.

“There are lots of things that I can understand that are described as rights, including the right to have a celebration at the beach,’’ he said.


“I cannot, for the life of me, think that someone can argue that you have a right to be brutally cruel to people in language that dehumanises them.

“I think that is a sick perversion of the concept of rights.

“The right that matters is the right to people’s safety.
People need to have the right to reasonable political debate.
I get all of that.
But thinking you’ve got a right to be dehumanising to other people, I think it’s sick.


Mr Burke said that under the new measures introduced in the wake of the Bondi terrorist attack, department staff will receive specialist
anti‑Semitism
and
hate speech
training starting next week.

This will enable them to make more rapid decisions on visa cancellations for individuals promoting extremist or dehumanising language.

The government plans further reforms next year, which
would make it unlawful to use extreme dehumanising language,
even if it does not explicitly incite violence — a step no federal government has taken before.



However, these changes will require legislation and careful drafting, with work underway in consultation with legal teams.

While the Opposition has called on the Albanese Government to recall parliament immediately, Mr Burke said the government wanted to take the time to legislate the new laws with care and precision to avoid legal challenge.

“Effectively, we want to get it right. The drafting is complex because every other Australian government has baulked,” Mr Burke said, emphasising that careful planning is needed before the laws reach parliament.

The minister said the training and delegation of powers would make visa cancellations faster and more efficient, allowing authorities to respond to threats before they escalate.

“Staff will be empowered to act quickly under clear legal guidance,” Mr Burke said. “This is about protecting the safety of all Australians while ensuring the law is applied effectively.”

Mr Burke said there were individuals who had managed to exploit freedom of speech protections and had gone right to the limits of language, but had not quite crossed the threshold to violence."





COMMENT;
I'd be interested,
to see the definition of
'HATE SPEECH',
which the Australian government intends to use !


ARGUMENT;
ISLAM is not an 'individual' [with 'rights of'],
nor is ISLAM confined within a specific racial group.

ISLAM could be categorised, imo,
as a widely spread, ideology and philosophy,
which many people around the world,
have chosen to follow.




QUESTION;
Is the Australian government going to make NEW LAWS to PREVENT,
and to outlaw persons
from   >> scrutinizing and debating <<   and   >> describing <<   [truthfully - from information, taken from ISLAMIC sources]
   >> WHAT <<   ISLAM is ?

QUESTION;
Is the Australian government going to make NEW LAWS which will outlaw and PREVENT persons
from   >> scrutinizing and debating <<   and   >> describing <<   [truthfully - from information, taken from ISLAMIC sources].

And to PREVENT, and to outlaw persons from   >> scrutinizing and debating <<
   >> THE VERY PARTICULAR SOCIAL MORES <<   WHICH ISLAM teaches to its followers ?



Q.
WHAT ARE SOCIAL MORES ?

mores = = the customs and conventions of a [particular] community.





e.g.
'The very particular social mores'.......

Instruction from the prophet of ALLAH,
in the hadith....


"...the Prophet said,
'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion,
kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260


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Reply #68 - Dec 20th, 2025 at 9:51am
 
Funny old thing politics ... Albo / Burke pissed off the Jewish vote, signed up thousands of Islamic votes and now is at risk of pissing off the Islamic vote.  Cheesy
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Reply #69 - Dec 21st, 2025 at 11:25pm
 
‘Unbreakable’: Pleas for peace and unity, jeers for Albanese as thousands attend Bondi vigil


Jordan Baker
December 21, 2025 — 9.34pm

It was billed as an evening of peace and unity. And it was, until Prime Minister Anthony Albanese arrived.

The crowd, which had been gathering on the grass overlooking the ocean and embracing old friends in shared grief, suddenly took to its feet as one. It booed, and it shouted “shame”. The anger was electric. It vibrated across the beach, to the footbridge where two gunmen opened fire on a peaceful Hanukkah celebration one week before, almost to the hour.


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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese arrives at the vigil at Bondi on Sunday evening.Credit:Edwina Pickles

Albanese looked straight ahead, his face fixed in a stare. Moments later, the boos turned to cheering as former prime minister John Howard, who last week said the attack was about antisemitism over guns, walked in, waving.

The fury towards Albanese was palpable. It had already been simmering before he arrived. “If Albo comes, I’ll … ” said one member of the crowd, trailing off before finishing the sentence. A mourner ran at the prime minister as he arrived, prompting police to hold him back.

The prime minister was jeered again, moments after the minute’s silence, when he was introduced to the crowd by the president of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies David Ossip.
That reception was followed by a standing ovation for Premier Chris Minns, NSW Opposition Leader Kellie Sloane, and for the father of Ahmed al Ahmed, who was shot when he disarmed the gunman.

“The terrorists have picked the wrong community to mess with because we, the Jewish people, are unbreakable,” Ossip told the crowd, while also calling for a royal commission following last Sunday’s massacre.

The anger towards the prime minister was set aside when it was time to mourn. The thousands had gathered by the beach on Sunday evening for another reason; to remember the 15 people who died. Yet their grief and their howls of pain over the past week made the minute’s silence even more stark. The quiet settled over Bondi at 6.47pm as dusk fell. It was thunderous in its unity and power.

Hanukkah celebrates the triumph of light over darkness. Over the past week, Sydney has felt dark indeed. But the menorah candles at Sunday’s vigil, gentle against the twilight, signalled a determination that the darkness would not win. As night descended, a spotlight shot a beam of light to the heavens.

“May the memories of those who we lost be a blessing, may the injured be healed, may our sorrows be comforted, may all those heroes … be blessed and rewarded,” said Rabbi Yehoram Ulman, whose son-in-law, Eli Schlanger, was killed in the attack.

The crowd numbered in the thousands. One woman, who wanted to be known only as Della, had been one of the first to arrive. “I was born in Bondi,” she said. “Bondi is my heart and my soul. My parents came from the Holocaust, they were the only survivors in the family. I don’t live close any more, but it’s my heart and my soul ... I couldn’t be anywhere else.”

They ranged from the elderly to the very young. As Governor-General Sam Mostyn spoke about barbarism and read a letter from the King, two preschoolers lay among the crowd with their mother, listening and chewing on lollipops. “What’s barbarism?” they asked. Their mother stroked their foreheads, silent and sad.

From buildings towering over the fenced-off vigil site, heavily armed snipers were standing with their guns. The beach was thick with scores of security and police, including the Tactical Operations Unit and riot squad, patrolling the perimeter.

The vigil was attended by the most powerful in the land. Minns was there, wearing a kippah, as were state Treasurer Daniel Mookhey and the president of the upper house, Penny Sharpe. Federal Opposition Leader Sussan Ley arrived with NSW Opposition Leader Kellie Sloane, who spoke of her own experience last week, when she rushed to Bondi as soon as she heard of the attack.

Last week, the gunmen opened fire just before the menorah – a Hanukkah candelabra – could be lit at 7pm. At the vigil, another was lit in their memory.

The candles were lit by the heroes of the terrorist attack, including the father of hero Ahmed al Ahmed, Mohammed; first responders and lifesavers; Police Commissioner Mal Lanyon, on behalf of police; and Vladimir Kotlyar, a chaplain for the SES, which treated the injured. Relatives of some of those who were killed also lit candles.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/unbreakable-pleas-for-peace-and-unity-jeers-f...


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