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Reply #46 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:27pm

And just when you thought it couldn’t get worse

“ Oh for f@cks sake, here we go again.

Every time something horrible happens in this country, the Pauline Hanson One Nation crowd crawls out of the woodwork like cockroaches that just discovered Facebook comments, screaming that Anthony Albanese needs to resign. Because apparently the Prime Minister now controls time, space, visas, ASIO, state gun licensing, and individual human decisions stretching back three decades.

Let’s put some actual dates on the table, since vibes and racism aren’t evidence.

The father immigrated to Australia on a student visa in 1998.
Who was Prime Minister? John Howard.

NSW Police Commissioner Mal Lanyon corrected earlier reporting that the father had held a gun licence for a decade. He said:

2015: an initial firearms licence application was lodged, but it lapsed because a required photograph was not supplied.

2020: a second application for a Category AB licence was lodged.

2023: that Category AB licence was issued.

ASIO investigated the son, then dropped the investigation in 2019.
Who was Prime Minister? Scott Morrison.

But somehow, magically, today this is all Albo’s fault.

Yeah mate, Albanese clearly hopped in a DeLorean, fired it up to 88 miles per hour, rewrote twenty years of immigration, intelligence, and firearms policy, then came back just in time for Sky News to yell about it.

Your argument isn’t just wrong, it’s lazy.

This bloke came here under a Liberal government.
The gun licence was granted under a Liberal government.
ASIO closed the file under a Liberal government.

But now the same people who voted for those governments are demanding the Labor PM resign because screaming “immigrants” feels better than admitting your own side ran the system for most of the last 25 years.

And let’s talk about this fantasy you people live in.

You act like radicalisation is a checkbox on a visa form. As if someone arrives at the airport and ticks “Yes” or “No” under “Will become dangerous in 20 years after consuming global propaganda, grievance politics, and endless war footage”.

Radicalisation is a process. It happens over time. Often decades later. Sometimes to people born here. Sometimes to people investigated and cleared years earlier. That’s reality, whether it fits your racist Facebook meme or not.

But reality isn’t the point, is it.

The point is blame.
Blame migrants.
Blame Muslims.
Blame Labor.
Blame anyone except the systems you cheered for and the governments you kept voting back in.

And here’s the kicker.

The same mob screaming “law and order” is suddenly pretending ASIO is useless. The same people who worship John Howard now want to memory-hole the fact that this all started on his watch. The same crowd that defended Abbott and Morrison to the death now wants to act shocked that long-term failures exist in long-term systems.

You don’t want solutions. You want a target.

Because if you actually followed the timeline, you’d have to shut up. And that seems to be the one thing you’re constitutionally incapable of doing.

So no, this isn’t Albanese’s fault.
It’s not a migration switch.
It’s not a religion problem.
It’s not a magic border spell you forgot to cast.

It’s decades of policy, intelligence judgement calls, individual agency, and a world that doesn’t run on talkback radio logic.

And if that makes you uncomfortable, good. Facts usually do when racism is the only thing holding your argument together.

Now scream into the comments about “lefties” and “wokeness” while the dates sit there, unmoved, not giving a single bugger about your feelings.”

An interesting take for the “it’s all Albo fault” people. I do agree with one thing frydemburgers has said - and that is a royal commission. But not a blame game one - but one that examines the whole process of immigration into Australia and the avenues for entry. The vetting processes in place. I think the Australian people need to understand and then support a system that is grey for many of us.

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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #47 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:11am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:07am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 8:27am:

Bondi hero attacked as ‘traitor’ in Arab world

Ahmed al-Ahmed faces accusations of treason from Palestinians after his heroic actions saved Jewish lives at Bondi.

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The only place that is happening is in Rupert Murdoch's rag. He will create division where there is none. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yep.

More fake news.

Two good examples (Brian, Gwoggy) who refuse to blame Mussos for the death of innocents, but like our Anus PM. Prefer to blame FELLOW AUSTRALIANS instead.
Now how's that for treachery❓

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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #48 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:37pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:32pm:

Two good examples (Brian, Gwoggy) who refuse to blame Mussos for the death of innocents, but like our Anus PM. Prefer to blame FELLOW AUSTRALIANS instead.
Now how's that for treachery❓

Truman said " the buck stops here"

meaning he wouldn't "pass the buck" (shift blame) but would make final decisions as President.

Albo - take note!

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Reply #49 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 8:31pm

Vic wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:27pm:

And just when you thought it couldn’t get worse

“ Oh for f@cks sake, here we go again.

Every time something horrible happens in this country, the Pauline Hanson One Nation crowd crawls out of the woodwork like cockroaches that just discovered Facebook comments, screaming that Anthony Albanese needs to resign. Because apparently the Prime Minister now controls time, space, visas, ASIO, state gun licensing, and individual human decisions stretching back three decades.

Let’s put some actual dates on the table, since vibes and racism aren’t evidence.

The father immigrated to Australia on a student visa in 1998.
Who was Prime Minister? John Howard.

NSW Police Commissioner Mal Lanyon corrected earlier reporting that the father had held a gun licence for a decade. He said:

2015: an initial firearms licence application was lodged, but it lapsed because a required photograph was not supplied.

2020: a second application for a Category AB licence was lodged.

2023: that Category AB licence was issued.

ASIO investigated the son, then dropped the investigation in 2019.
Who was Prime Minister? Scott Morrison.

But somehow, magically, today this is all Albo’s fault.

Yeah mate, Albanese clearly hopped in a DeLorean, fired it up to 88 miles per hour, rewrote twenty years of immigration, intelligence, and firearms policy, then came back just in time for Sky News to yell about it.

Your argument isn’t just wrong, it’s lazy.

This bloke came here under a Liberal government.
The gun licence was granted under a Liberal government.
ASIO closed the file under a Liberal government.

But now the same people who voted for those governments are demanding the Labor PM resign because screaming “immigrants” feels better than admitting your own side ran the system for most of the last 25 years.

And let’s talk about this fantasy you people live in.

You act like radicalisation is a checkbox on a visa form. As if someone arrives at the airport and ticks “Yes” or “No” under “Will become dangerous in 20 years after consuming global propaganda, grievance politics, and endless war footage”.

Radicalisation is a process. It happens over time. Often decades later. Sometimes to people born here. Sometimes to people investigated and cleared years earlier. That’s reality, whether it fits your racist Facebook meme or not.

But reality isn’t the point, is it.

The point is blame.
Blame migrants.
Blame Muslims.
Blame Labor.
Blame anyone except the systems you cheered for and the governments you kept voting back in.

And here’s the kicker.

The same mob screaming “law and order” is suddenly pretending ASIO is useless. The same people who worship John Howard now want to memory-hole the fact that this all started on his watch. The same crowd that defended Abbott and Morrison to the death now wants to act shocked that long-term failures exist in long-term systems.

You don’t want solutions. You want a target.

Because if you actually followed the timeline, you’d have to shut up. And that seems to be the one thing you’re constitutionally incapable of doing.

So no, this isn’t Albanese’s fault.
It’s not a migration switch.
It’s not a religion problem.
It’s not a magic border spell you forgot to cast.

It’s decades of policy, intelligence judgement calls, individual agency, and a world that doesn’t run on talkback radio logic.

And if that makes you uncomfortable, good. Facts usually do when racism is the only thing holding your argument together.

Now scream into the comments about “lefties” and “wokeness” while the dates sit there, unmoved, not giving a single bugger about your feelings.”

An interesting take for the “it’s all Albo fault” people. I do agree with one thing frydemburgers has said - and that is a royal commission. But not a blame game one - but one that examines the whole process of immigration into Australia and the avenues for entry. The vetting processes in place. I think the Australian people need to understand and then support a system that is grey for many of us.

Yes. The UNIPARTY has been flooding Australia for at least 5 decades. All prime ministers from Whitlam on have presided over a silent pact of demographic and cultural transformation.

No Royal Commission will undo that. Albo is as guilty as Howard, ScoMo, Keating, Hawke. The same in England, Canada, US, Europe.

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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #50 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 8:42pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:11am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:07am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 8:27am:

Bondi hero attacked as ‘traitor’ in Arab world

Ahmed al-Ahmed faces accusations of treason from Palestinians after his heroic actions saved Jewish lives at Bondi.

Roll Eyes

The only place that is happening is in Rupert Murdoch's rag. He will create division where there is none. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yep.

More fake news.

Two good examples (Brian, Gwoggy) who refuse to blame Mussos for the death of innocents, but like our Anus PM. Prefer to blame FELLOW AUSTRALIANS instead.
Now how's that for treachery❓

The shooter in hospital right now is a fellow Australian-born citizen.

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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #51 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:38pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 8:27am:

Bondi hero attacked as ‘traitor’ in Arab world

Ahmed al-Ahmed faces
accusations of treason
from Palestinians after his heroic actions saved Jewish lives at Bondi.

Roll Eyes

Nemo,

Well no surprise there, ....that Ahmed al-Ahmed is facing this denigration,
[and probably receiving threats from ISLAMISTS].

BECAUSE.....
Any nominal moslem, >> who in any way, <<
aligns himself with the interests of a non-ISLAMIC jurisdiction,
[instead of doing everything he can to advance ISLAM's supremacist agenda],
commits a capital crime,
commits a capital crime,
commits a capital crime.

The 'crime' of Ahmed al-Ahmed, is plainly apparent in ISLAMIC texts.....

apparent = = readily perceived or understood; obvious.

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11
[i.e. death penalty]

"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,...And any of you that does this has strayed from the Straight Path."
Koran 60.1
[i.e. he who has "strayed from the Straight Path".......
it is 100% LAWFUL for a follower of ISLAM to kill him - anywhere.]

"O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors:
They are but friends and protectors to each other.
And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them.
Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust."
Koran 5.51
[i.e. 'is of them' = = he/she is deemed to be a disbeliever, an apostate.
and is therefore worthy of death.]

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22

"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

ISLAM in its foundational religious text [the Koran]
promotes hatred of ALL non-moslems,
AS ISLAMS PRIMARY RELIGIOUS PRECEPT.

BELIEVE IT !

IT IS THE TRUTH.

THAT INDISPUTABLE TRUTH IS SIMPLE TO ESTABLISH AND TO PROVE,
FROM ISLAMIC SOURCES.

But Albo and the Labor Party [and the Australian Liberal Party]
DON'T WANT TO 'KNOW' THESE FACTS ABOUT ISLAM.

WHY......DO POLITICIANS IN THIS NATION,
SO, SO, SO, HATE THE TRUTH,
ABOUT ISLAM ?

Q.
WILL OUR POLITICIANS, AND THEIR 'ADVISORS',
ACCUSE PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF,
OF 'SPREADING HATRED' ?

PERSONS LIKE BRIAN WOULD LOVE THAT TO HAPPEN.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 45926	Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism Reply #52 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:50pm Bugger off, Yadda. You know bugger all about Muslims and Islam. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #53 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:50pm:

Bugger off, Yadda.

You know bugger all about Muslims and Islam.

ISLAM in its foundational religious text [the Koran]
promotes hatred of ALL non-moslems,
AS ISLAMS PRIMARY RELIGIOUS PRECEPT.

.

WHAT FOLLOWS, IS WHAT WE ALL NEED TO CONFRONT.....

The Koran is ISLAM's preeminent and primary religious text.

And the Koran is regarded by all moslems,
as the most authoritative source of INSTRUCTION,
for every follower of ISLAM, in how he can learn and know his religious obligations,
and correctly follow the dictates of his religion.

The heart of ISLAM, is the Koran
[and at heart of the Koran, are the ideas and ideals it contains].

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INSTRUCTION.....FROM THE HEART OF THE KORAN.......

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter.
Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things."
Koran 9.38, 39

"Say: "...If ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men,
then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!" "
Koran 62.06

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise):
they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

WAKE UP PEOPLE

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LNP never again Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1899 Gender:	Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism Reply #54 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:21pm Didnt mention dad came in under howard like mad monis either , or asio missed him 2019 as well ...
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Reply #55 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 7:15am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:50pm:

Bugger off, Yadda. You know bugger all about Muslims and Islam. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

And what do you know? You met Abdul and.... er... that's it.

Oh, and what the ABC tells you. Otherwise you are completely ignorant and bereft of any understanding.

Islamophobia, wacism, tut tuts and eyerolling - that is the sum total of your understanding.

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Reply #56 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 7:18am

LNP never again wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:21pm:

Didnt mention dad came in under howard like mad monis either , or asio missed him 2019 as well ...

The Uniparty and the Unibureaocracy. The multiculti dogma has sheltered, like a hothouse, the jihadis among us.
ANY calling out of them is still instantly labelled islamophobia and wacism.

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Reply #57 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 9:26am

Yadda wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 8:27am:

Bondi hero attacked as ‘traitor’ in Arab world

Ahmed al-Ahmed faces
accusations of treason
from Palestinians after his heroic actions saved Jewish lives at Bondi.

Roll Eyes

Nemo,

Well no surprise there, ....that Ahmed al-Ahmed is facing this denigration,
[and probably receiving threats from ISLAMISTS].

BECAUSE.....
Any nominal moslem, >> who in any way, <<
aligns himself with the interests of a non-ISLAMIC jurisdiction,
[instead of doing everything he can to advance ISLAM's supremacist agenda],
commits a capital crime,
commits a capital crime,
commits a capital crime.

The 'crime' of Ahmed al-Ahmed, is plainly apparent in ISLAMIC texts.....

apparent = = readily perceived or understood; obvious.

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11
[i.e. death penalty]

"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,...And any of you that does this has strayed from the Straight Path."
Koran 60.1
[i.e. he who has "strayed from the Straight Path".......
it is 100% LAWFUL for a follower of ISLAM to kill him - anywhere.]

"O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors:
They are but friends and protectors to each other.
And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them.
Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust."
Koran 5.51
[i.e. 'is of them' = = he/she is deemed to be a disbeliever, an apostate.
and is therefore worthy of death.]

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22

"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

ISLAM in its foundational religious text [the Koran]
promotes hatred of ALL non-moslems,
AS ISLAMS PRIMARY RELIGIOUS PRECEPT.

BELIEVE IT !

IT IS THE TRUTH.

THAT INDISPUTABLE TRUTH IS SIMPLE TO ESTABLISH AND TO PROVE,
FROM ISLAMIC SOURCES.

But Albo and the Labor Party [and the Australian Liberal Party]
DON'T WANT TO 'KNOW' THESE FACTS ABOUT ISLAM.

WHY......DO POLITICIANS IN THIS NATION,
SO, SO, SO, HATE THE TRUTH,
ABOUT ISLAM ?

Q.
WILL OUR POLITICIANS, AND THEIR 'ADVISORS',
ACCUSE PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF,
OF 'SPREADING HATRED' ?

PERSONS LIKE BRIAN WOULD LOVE THAT TO HAPPEN.

Dear Yadda,
many blessings.

Your posts are so long that I doubt anyone reads them -

make them short and punchy.

forgiven

namaste

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89673 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism Reply #58 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 9:50am Albo under attack for failing to attend the funerals of Jewish victims.... and this is just Andrew Bolt .. it's much wider than that... It's actually a slap in the face to the Jewish Community - Albo and his advisers are clearly obtuse.
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Re: Albo: don't mention Islamic Extremism
Reply #59 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 10:08am

Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 7:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:50pm:

Bugger off, Yadda. You know bugger all about Muslims and Islam. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

And what do you know? You met Abdul and.... er... that's it.

Oh, and what the ABC tells you. Otherwise you are completely ignorant and bereft of any understanding.

Islamophobia, wacism, tut tuts and eyerolling - that is the sum total of your understanding.

No one sensible wants your Racism and Islamophobia, its just pure bigotry, Soren. Run along back to your Bridge you, Troll. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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