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Reply #15 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:47am:

Frank's triggered, and now he's changing the subject Roll Eyes

The vast majority of mass murders in countries like Australia, New Zealand, the US, etc. are carried out by natural-born citizens.

Immigrants are responsible for only a very tiny percentage of the most horrendous crimes.

Natura born citizenship is no guarantee of national allegiance, as the latest jihadi ****head demonstrated at Bondi Beach on Sunday.
Most Hizbi kids are 'natural born citizens'. We have loads of 'natural born citizen' jihadis. Most ISIS brides are. Most Isis fighters who went to IS from Australia, England, were, for that matter.

Wth mass immigration from wildly hostile cultures and the express refusal to assimilate, being
a 'natural born citizen' is meaningless for the determinantion of cultural affinity and national, religious, ideological allegiance. Muslim ideology transcends mere geography and place of birth.

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Reply #16 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:03am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:50am:

The statement that the vast majority of mass murders in countries like Australia, New Zealand, and the US are carried out by natural-born citizens is supported by data.

In the U.S., a significant majority of mass shootings are committed by native-born Americans.

One analysis of mass shooters from 1966 to 2024 found:

85.6% were native-born Americans.

14.4% were foreign-born.

This is roughly proportional to their share of the population, indicating that foreign-born individuals are not disproportionately responsible for these crimes. Research across various crime types generally shows that immigrants have lower incarceration and violent crime rates than native-born citizens.

Similarly, in Australia, most individuals incarcerated or processed for offenses, including violent ones, were born in Australia.

One Australian Institute of Criminology study noted that while some specific migrant groups had higher rates for certain offenses (like property or drug crimes), the largest proportion of alleged offenders across the board were Australian-born.

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Reply #17 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:16am

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:47am:

Frank's triggered, and now he's changing the subject Roll Eyes

The vast majority of mass murders in countries like Australia, New Zealand, the US, etc. are carried out by natural-born citizens.

Immigrants are responsible for only a very tiny percentage of the most horrendous crimes.

Natura born citizenship is no guarantee of national allegiance, as the latest jihadi ****head demonstrated at Bondi Beach on Sunday.

Acually that's true: and given the failure of the West to deal with the longstanding oppression of Muslims in Palestine since 1948, we would have been smart to ban Muslim immigration.

But such a ban would require an examination of causes, which would reveal the illegality of the "Chosen People" and their "Promised Land" OT ideology/mythology, in the modern world.

Hence no ban on Muslim immigration; and hence the murders for which you share a responsibility.

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Reply #18 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:58am

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:16am:

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:47am:

Frank's triggered, and now he's changing the subject Roll Eyes

The vast majority of mass murders in countries like Australia, New Zealand, the US, etc. are carried out by natural-born citizens.

Immigrants are responsible for only a very tiny percentage of the most horrendous crimes.

Natura born citizenship is no guarantee of national allegiance, as the latest jihadi ****head demonstrated at Bondi Beach on Sunday.

Acually that's true: and given the failure of the West to deal with the longstanding oppression of Muslims in Palestine since 1948, we would have been smart to ban Muslim immigration.

But such a ban would require an examination of causes, which would reveal the illegality of the "Chosen People" and their "Promised Land" OT ideology/mythology, in the modern world.

Hence no ban on Muslim immigration; and hence the murders for which you share a responsibility.

You are as despicable as Bbwiayawn and creepy gweggy.

In your deformed minds murdering 15 people on the beach is somehow understandable as action for Palestine.
You all are as mentally and morally crippled and addled by evil as the jihadis.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6070 Gender:	Re: Mass Murderers Reply #19 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 11:00am This is a pathetic thread making excuses for the Bondi terrorists by attempting to find some sort of moral equivalence with other killers. Only the sad and desperate AnAl fetishists will give it any credibility.
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Reply #20 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 11:38am

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:58am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:16am:

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 10:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:47am:

Frank's triggered, and now he's changing the subject Roll Eyes

The vast majority of mass murders in countries like Australia, New Zealand, the US, etc. are carried out by natural-born citizens.

Immigrants are responsible for only a very tiny percentage of the most horrendous crimes.

Natura born citizenship is no guarantee of national allegiance, as the latest jihadi ****head demonstrated at Bondi Beach on Sunday.

Acually that's true: and given the failure of the West to deal with the longstanding oppression of Muslims in Palestine since 1948, we would have been smart to ban Muslim immigration.

But such a ban would require an examination of causes, which would reveal the illegality of the "Chosen People" and their "Promised Land" OT ideology/mythology, in the modern world.

Hence no ban on Muslim immigration; and hence the murders for which you share a responsibility.

You are as despicable as Bbwiayawn and creepy gweggy.

Hooo-Kaay..now you got that off your chest, let's see of you have anything intelligent to say...

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In your deformed minds murdering 15 people on the beach is somehow understandable as action for Palestine.

Ah - I see the problem: you conflate the desire to defuse Islamic terrorism (by establishing the Palestinian state) with support for said terrorism.

Note : most world leaders now see the long-promised establishment of the Palestinian state as a condition for peace in the ME.

Can you see your error now?

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You all are as mentally and morally crippled and addled by evil as the jihadis.

Careful, that infamous mirror awaits you...

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Reply #21 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 12:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:50am:

The statement that the vast majority of mass murders in countries like Australia, New Zealand, and the US are carried out by natural-born citizens is supported by data.

In the U.S., a significant majority of mass shootings are committed by native-born Americans.

One analysis of mass shooters from 1966 to 2024 found:

85.6% were native-born Americans.

14.4% were foreign-born.

This is roughly proportional to their share of the population, indicating that foreign-born individuals are not disproportionately responsible for these crimes. Research across various crime types generally shows that immigrants have lower incarceration and violent crime rates than native-born citizens.

1966

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Reply #22 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 12:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:50am:

The statement that the vast majority of mass murders in countries like Australia, New Zealand, and the US are carried out by natural-born citizens is supported by data.

In the U.S., a significant majority of mass shootings are committed by native-born Americans.

One analysis of mass shooters from 1966 to 2024 found:

85.6% were native-born Americans.

14.4% were foreign-born.

This is roughly proportional to their share of the population, indicating that foreign-born individuals are not disproportionately responsible for these crimes. Research across various crime types generally shows that immigrants have lower incarceration and violent crime rates than native-born citizens.

Immigrants in the United States commit crimes at lower rates than the U.S.-born population, notwithstanding the assertion by critics that immigration is linked to higher rates of criminal activity. This reality of reduced criminality, which holds across immigrant groups including unauthorized immigrants, has been demonstrated through research as well as findings for the one state in the United States—Texas—that tracks criminal arrests and convictions by immigration status.

A growing volume of research demonstrates that not only do immigrants commit fewer crimes, but they also do not raise crime rates in the U.S. communities where they settle. In fact, some studies indicate that immigration can lower criminal activity, especially violent crime, in places with inclusive policies and social environments where immigrant populations are well established.

In 2020, immigrants were 60 percent less likely to be incarcerated than the U.S. born, according to a study by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

And though a 2021 Justice Department study points out prosecutions of immigrants increased between 1990 and 2018, nearly 90 percent were for violations of immigration-related laws. Notably, U.S.-born citizens were ten times more likely than immigrants to be incarcerated for committing weapons-related offenses, five times more likely for violent offenses, more than twice as likely for property crimes, and nearly twice as likely for drug offenses.

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Reply #23 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 12:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 12:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:50am:

The statement that the vast majority of mass murders in countries like Australia, New Zealand, and the US are carried out by natural-born citizens is supported by data.

In the U.S., a significant majority of mass shootings are committed by native-born Americans.

One analysis of mass shooters from 1966 to 2024 found:

85.6% were native-born Americans.

14.4% were foreign-born.

This is roughly proportional to their share of the population, indicating that foreign-born individuals are not disproportionately responsible for these crimes. Research across various crime types generally shows that immigrants have lower incarceration and violent crime rates than native-born citizens.

1966

1966?

"Pease explain".....

Whereas in 2001, Muslims cheered when they saw the twin Towers in NY come down, the first 'win' against Western oppression of Muslims in Palestine.

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Reply #24 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 12:19pm:

[i]In 2020, immigrants were 60 percent less likely to be incarcerated than the U.S. born, according to a study by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

Oh dear.

That's down to the native born negro population. Not even the tough hombres from Guetamalan Honduras and Mexico can compete with them in the criminal stakes.

At yearend 2022, an estimated 32% of sentenced state and federal prisoners were black; 31% were white; 23% were Hispanic; 2% were American Indian or Alaska Native; and 1% were Asian, Native Hawaiian, or Other Pacific Islander.

If is similar but even worse in Australia: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander prisoners representing 37% of the total prison population.

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Reply #25 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:05pm

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 12:19pm:

[i]In 2020, immigrants were 60 percent less likely to be incarcerated than the U.S. born, according to a study by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

Oh dear.

That's down yo the native born negro population. Not even the tough hombres from Guetamalan Honduras and Mexico can compete with them in the criminal stakes.

At yearend 2022, an estimated 32% of sentenced state and federal prisoners were black; 31% were white; 23% were Hispanic; 2% were American Indian or Alaska Native; and 1% were Asian, Native Hawaiian, or Other Pacific Islander.

Proven wrong about immigrants, so now you change the subject.

Why is nobody here surprised?

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Reply #26 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:05pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 12:19pm:

[i]In 2020, immigrants were 60 percent less likely to be incarcerated than the U.S. born, according to a study by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

Oh dear.

That's down yo the native born negro population. Not even the tough hombres from Guetamalan Honduras and Mexico can compete with them in the criminal stakes.

At yearend 2022, an estimated 32% of sentenced state and federal prisoners were black; 31% were white; 23% were Hispanic; 2% were American Indian or Alaska Native; and 1% were Asian, Native Hawaiian, or Other Pacific Islander.

Proven wrong about immigrants, so now you change the subject.

Why is nobody here surprised?

There is a massive Native born criminal population in the US, as in Australia:

At yearend 2022, an estimated 32% of sentenced state and federal prisoners were black; 31% were white; 23% were Hispanic; 2% were American Indian or Alaska Native; and 1% were Asian, Native Hawaiian, or Other Pacific Islander.

If is similar but even worse in Australia: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander prisoners representing 37% of the total prison population.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 56169 Gender:	Re: Mass Murderers Reply #27 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:13pm African youth, most notably those of South Sudanese heritage, are over-represented in the criminal justice system in Victoria. In 2024, African youth account for about 50% of young people in custody in Victoria, up from 4% in 2012. From 4% to 50% in 12 years. They grow into prisoners fast.
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Reply #28 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:50pm

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:05pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 12:19pm:

[i]In 2020, immigrants were 60 percent less likely to be incarcerated than the U.S. born, according to a study by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

Oh dear.

That's down yo the native born negro population. Not even the tough hombres from Guetamalan Honduras and Mexico can compete with them in the criminal stakes.

At yearend 2022, an estimated 32% of sentenced state and federal prisoners were black; 31% were white; 23% were Hispanic; 2% were American Indian or Alaska Native; and 1% were Asian, Native Hawaiian, or Other Pacific Islander.

Proven wrong about immigrants, so now you change the subject.

Why is nobody here surprised?

There is a massive Native born criminal population in the US, as in Australia:

At yearend 2022, an estimated 32% of sentenced state and federal prisoners were black; 31% were white; 23% were Hispanic; 2% were American Indian or Alaska Native; and 1% were Asian, Native Hawaiian, or Other Pacific Islander.

If is similar but even worse in Australia: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander prisoners representing 37% of the total prison population.

As I said, you were proven wrong about immigrants, so now you've changed the subject.

Nobody here surprised - we all know you're a white supremacist.

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Victor Sunny Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 380 Gender:	Re: Mass Murderers Reply #29 - Dec 19^th, 2025 at 5:37am Third one father was from India and is Indian nationality. His father is mass killer too. That was coalition policy to bring massive Indian into Australia.
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