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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 45347	historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Dec 9^th, 2025 at 9:52am Victorian government to make historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians following signing of treaty
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Reply #1 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 10:12am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 9:52am:

Victorian government to make historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians following signing of treaty Cool

Good one, and when can we expect an apology to the descendants of all the convicts, especially the Irish ones who were subjected to racial, political and religious discrimination and persecution?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Reply #2 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 10:14am Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 10:12am: especially the Irish ones The Irish should apologise to Australia
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89231 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Reply #3 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 10:24am Their problem. Victoria is now one huge insane asylum.
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Reply #4 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 11:34am

Aborigines should apologise to all Australians for their North Sentinelese island-like racist isolationism and Invasion Day protests when there was no invasion because 79% died from disease not warfare. They should apologise for their own failures, just like the Maori did.

The APY lands of the Pitjantjatjara and neighbouring tribes have become fenced off Aborigines ONLY lands. The once productive Opal mining town has been totally removed by taxpayer money in the millions, the populace is 40% unemployed now all on Centrelink.
No Whites allowed, except for white money and fundings.

Pure Racism.

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3251 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Reply #5 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 3:14pm John Smith wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 10:14am: Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 10:12am: especially the Irish ones The Irish should apologise to Australia Why, in your learned opinion?
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3251 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Reply #6 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 3:42pm The present day descendents Ellen Kelly, mother of Edward Kelly, would have the same or better justification for an apology as many aboriginals.—-
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89231 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Reply #7 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 4:36pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 3:42pm: The present day descendents Ellen Kelly, mother of Edward Kelly, would have the same or better justification for an apology as many aboriginals.—- Me Auntie Shirley were a Kelly - just not one o' them Southern Kellys...
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Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians
Reply #8 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 4:37pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

Aborigines should apologise to all Australians for their North Sentinelese island-like racist isolationism and Invasion Day protests when there was no invasion because 79% died from disease not warfare. They should apologise for their own failures, just like the Maori did.

The APY lands of the Pitjantjatjara and neighbouring tribes have become fenced off Aborigines ONLY lands. The once productive Opal mining town has been totally removed by taxpayer money in the millions, the populace is 40% unemployed now all on Centrelink.
No Whites allowed, except for white money and fundings.

Pure Racism.

Homeland ya reckon?

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21427 Gordon Gender:	Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Reply #9 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 5:00pm Abos should say THANK YOU
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89231 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Reply #10 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 5:26pm There are no Aboriginal Victorians - they are Victorians with a streak of Abo.
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Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians
Reply #11 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 5:34pm

Yes. Aboriginalism should forgive the British for who they were and what they had to go through to survive in just 2000 years of incredible change, let alone what they still have to go through in the future.
Aboriginalism refuses to acknowledge the histories of other people's that have come here and why. Instead, they just push their own cause of keeping their isolationism against the world as if it doesn't exist.
I'm not going to buy into the Irish v English stuff here, because that's just old world and it should stay there. The Irish are not privy to the Convict angle. Many English, were convicts too, as were others. Nor were the Convicts just the poor, so it was never about class either.
It was also not just about petty loaf of bread crimes, but murderers and other capital criminals from both rich and poor.
I think the Irish here cry poor and victimhood against English, just like Palestinians do against Israel. It takes two.

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Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians
Reply #12 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 6:17pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

Yes. Aboriginalism should forgive the British for who they were and what they had to go through to survive in just 2000 years of incredible change, let alone what they still have to go through in the future.
Aboriginalism refuses to acknowledge the histories of other people's that have come here and why. Instead, they just push their own cause of keeping their isolationism against the world as if it doesn't exist.
I'm not going to buy into the Irish v English stuff here, because that's just old world and it should stay there. The Irish are not privy to the Convict angle. Many English, were convicts too, as were others. Nor were the Convicts just the poor, so it was never about class either.
It was also not just about petty loaf of bread crimes, but murderers and other capital criminals from both rich and poor.
I think the Irish here cry poor and victimhood against English, just like Palestinians do against Israel. It takes two.

‘’ I'm not going to buy into the Irish v English stuff here, because that's just old world and it should stay there. . . . ‘’
Trouble was it didn’t stay there, I’m old enough to remember looking for work and seeing job adds that said, in part ‘’. . . Protestant only, others need not apply. . .’’
Discrimination has been alive and well in Australia since 1788.
We even have the bullshit so called Cross of St Patrick incorporated in our Flag.
It wasn’t on the flag in 1788, thankfully.’

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89231 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Reply #13 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 6:23pm <=====<<<< spot the Abo requesting for a friend
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 54691 Gender:	Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Reply #14 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 7:57pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 9:52am: Victorian government to make historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians following signing of treaty A ridiculous farce. ALL those Abos have more British blood in them than I do.
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Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians
Reply #15 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 9:19pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

Yes. Aboriginalism should forgive the British for who they were and what they had to go through to survive in just 2000 years of incredible change, let alone what they still have to go through in the future.
Aboriginalism refuses to acknowledge the histories of other people's that have come here and why. Instead, they just push their own cause of keeping their isolationism against the world as if it doesn't exist.
I'm not going to buy into the Irish v English stuff here, because that's just old world and it should stay there. The Irish are not privy to the Convict angle. Many English, were convicts too, as were others. Nor were the Convicts just the poor, so it was never about class either.
It was also not just about petty loaf of bread crimes, but murderers and other capital criminals from both rich and poor.
I think the Irish here cry poor and victimhood against English, just like Palestinians do against Israel. It takes two.

‘’ I'm not going to buy into the Irish v English stuff here, because that's just old world and it should stay there. . . . ‘’
Trouble was it didn’t stay there, I’m old enough to remember looking for work and seeing job adds that said, in part ‘’. . . Protestant only, others need not apply. . .’’
Discrimination has been alive and well in Australia since 1788.
We even have the bullshit so called Cross of St Patrick incorporated in our Flag.
It wasn’t on the flag in 1788, thankfully.’

Well maybe you should watch Once Were Warriors about Maori who live in the past and the 'bigger men' Maori who, in the end scene, walk into the future.
Same goes for Irish & English here. There are Irish who hold onto the past and praise Ned Kelly, while the Irish futurists know that Kelly was a scumbag and move on away from a criminal past.

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AussieAmAndARC Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 145 in your wildest dreams... Gender:	Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Reply #16 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 11:09pm Because dan andrews took chinese money and now the entire state needs to hide behind the indigenous land grab and their perceived rights, because they can't pay it back. That p ri c k took 4 billion. on your behalf. see through the lies people....before it's too late for all of you....
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Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians
Reply #17 - Dec 9^th, 2025 at 11:25pm

One of them came up to me at some random highway petrol station in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere wanting a lift several hours away....further south

I said.....
sure
I'm going that way, I can give you a lift.

She had tried all the truckies who were just trying to sleep before hitting the road again...
they're all sleeping...she said

no poo...

don't worry about it. I'll give you a lift.

Yeah but I need to get my stuff
she says

what stuff

My stuff at my daughters place her fellah kicked me out

I can't take your stuff too
I can give you a lift I don't have time for your stuff nor do I have the space

hmmm
she thinks for a second
yeah but I need money for the bus when I get there (4 hours away) it's $70 after the lift

I'm not giving you money
I have none to spare
(as it was I got stuck in some slow death town for 3 days because I ran out of fuel money)

do you want a lift or not?

yeah ... but I need to use the toilet inside first

well go on then...I'll be here, but I can not get your stuff and I don't have spare money...i can give you a lift.

off she goes inside.

I put my pet in the car, got in
and drove away.

No thanks.

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Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians
Reply #18 - Dec 10^th, 2025 at 8:57am

Jasin wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 9:19pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

Yes. Aboriginalism should forgive the British for who they were and what they had to go through to survive in just 2000 years of incredible change, let alone what they still have to go through in the future.
Aboriginalism refuses to acknowledge the histories of other people's that have come here and why. Instead, they just push their own cause of keeping their isolationism against the world as if it doesn't exist.
I'm not going to buy into the Irish v English stuff here, because that's just old world and it should stay there. The Irish are not privy to the Convict angle. Many English, were convicts too, as were others. Nor were the Convicts just the poor, so it was never about class either.
It was also not just about petty loaf of bread crimes, but murderers and other capital criminals from both rich and poor.
I think the Irish here cry poor and against English, just like Palestinians Lips Sealed

do against Israel. It takes two.

‘’ I'm not going to buy into the Irish v English stuff here, because that's just old world and it should stay there. . . . ‘’
Trouble was it didn’t stay there, I’m old enough to remember looking for work and seeing job adds that said, in part ‘’. . . Protestant only, others need not apply. . .’’
Discrimination has been alive and well in Australia since 1788.
We even have the bullshit so called Cross of St Patrick incorporated in our Flag.
It wasn’t on the flag in 1788, thankfully.’

Well maybe you should watch Once Were Warriors about Maori who live in the past and the 'bigger men' Maori who, in the end scene, walk into the future.
Same goes for Irish & English here. There are Irish who hold onto the past and praise Ned Kelly, while the Irish futurists know that Kelly was a scumbag and move on away from a criminal past.

You miss the point, if the Aboriginals of today are owed an apology for the way that their ancestors were treated by the Victorian authorities and others, then so are all the other people who were mistreated.

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Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians
Reply #19 - Dec 10^th, 2025 at 9:12am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 9:52am:

Victorian government to make historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians following signing of treaty Cool

Just a repetition of apologies that were made & the reparations that have already been paid decades ago.

Another self loathing Labor party & the identity politics that infests it. Justifying their Treaty & Voice BS.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 32413 Gender:	Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians Reply #20 - Dec 10^th, 2025 at 9:14am Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 3:14pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 10:14am: Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 10:12am: especially the Irish ones The Irish should apologise to Australia Why, in your learned opinion? Smith doesn't have a learned opinion on anything.
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Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians
Reply #21 - Yesterday at 11:50am

Gnads wrote on Dec 10^th, 2025 at 9:14am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 3:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 10:14am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 9^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

especially the Irish ones

The Irish should apologise to Australia Cheesy

Why, in your learned opinion?

Smith doesn't have a learned opinion on anything. Wink

Perhaps so, but that is no reason not to ask him to clarify one of his statements; so, why do you think that the Irish should apologise to Australia, John?

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