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Jasin
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Re: historic apology to Aboriginal Victorians
Reply #15 - Yesterday at 9:19pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 6:17pm:
Jasin wrote Yesterday at 5:34pm:
Yes. Aboriginalism should forgive the British for who they were and what they had to go through to survive in just 2000 years of incredible change, let alone what they still have to go through in the future.
Aboriginalism refuses to acknowledge the histories of other people's that have come here and why. Instead, they just push their own cause of keeping their isolationism against the world as if it doesn't exist.
I'm not going to buy into the Irish v English stuff here, because that's just old world and it should stay there. The Irish are not privy to the Convict angle. Many English, were convicts too, as were others. Nor were the Convicts just the poor, so it was never about class either.
It was also not just about petty loaf of bread crimes, but murderers and other capital criminals from both rich and poor.
I think the Irish here cry poor and victimhood against English, just like Palestinians do against Israel. It takes two.

‘’ I'm not going to buy into the Irish v English stuff here, because that's just old world and it should stay there. . . . ‘’
Trouble was it didn’t stay there, I’m old enough to remember looking for work and seeing job adds that said, in part ‘’. . . Protestant only, others need not apply. . .’’
Discrimination has been alive and well in Australia since 1788.
We even have the bullshit so called Cross of St Patrick incorporated in our Flag.
It wasn’t on the flag in 1788, thankfully.’


Well maybe you should watch Once Were Warriors about Maori who live in the past and the 'bigger men' Maori who, in the end scene, walk into the future.
Same goes for Irish & English here. There are Irish who hold onto the past and praise Ned Kelly, while the Irish futurists know that Kelly was a scumbag and move on away from a criminal past.
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Reply #16 - Yesterday at 11:09pm
 
Because dan andrews took chinese money and now the entire state needs to hide behind the indigenous land grab and their perceived rights, because they can't pay it back.

That p  ri  c k took 4 billion. on your behalf.


see through the lies people....before it's too late for all of you....
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Reply #17 - Yesterday at 11:25pm
 
One of them came up to me at some random highway petrol station in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere wanting a lift several hours away....further south

I said.....
sure
I'm going that way, I can give you a lift.

She had tried all the truckies who were just trying to sleep before hitting the road again...
they're all sleeping...she said

no poo...

don't worry about it. I'll give you a lift.

Yeah but I need to get my stuff
she says

what stuff

My stuff at my daughters place her fellah kicked me out

I can't take your stuff too
I can give you a lift I don't have time for your stuff nor do I have the space

hmmm
she thinks for a second
yeah but I need money for the bus when I get there (4 hours away) it's $70 after the lift

I'm not giving you money
I have none to spare
(as it was I got stuck in some slow death town for 3 days because I ran out of fuel money)

do you want a lift or not?

yeah ... but I need to use the toilet inside first

well go on then...I'll be here, but I can not get your stuff and I don't have spare money...i can give you a lift.

off she goes inside.

I put my pet in the car, got in
and drove away.

No thanks.

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Reply #18 - Today at 8:57am
 
Jasin wrote Yesterday at 9:19pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 6:17pm:
Jasin wrote Yesterday at 5:34pm:
Yes. Aboriginalism should forgive the British for who they were and what they had to go through to survive in just 2000 years of incredible change, let alone what they still have to go through in the future.
Aboriginalism refuses to acknowledge the histories of other people's that have come here and why. Instead, they just push their own cause of keeping their isolationism against the world as if it doesn't exist.
I'm not going to buy into the Irish v English stuff here, because that's just old world and it should stay there. The Irish are not privy to the Convict angle. Many English, were convicts too, as were others. Nor were the Convicts just the poor, so it was never about class either.
It was also not just about petty loaf of bread crimes, but murderers and other capital criminals from both rich and poor.
I think the Irish here cry poor and  against English, just like Palestinians Lips Sealed do against Israel. It takes two.

‘’ I'm not going to buy into the Irish v English stuff here, because that's just old world and it should stay there. . . . ‘’
Trouble was it didn’t stay there, I’m old enough to remember looking for work and seeing job adds that said, in part ‘’. . . Protestant only, others need not apply. . .’’
Discrimination has been alive and well in Australia since 1788.
We even have the bullshit so called Cross of St Patrick incorporated in our Flag.
It wasn’t on the flag in 1788, thankfully.’


Well maybe you should watch Once Were Warriors about Maori who live in the past and the 'bigger men' Maori who, in the end scene, walk into the future.
Same goes for Irish & English here. There are Irish who hold onto the past and praise Ned Kelly, while the Irish futurists know that Kelly was a scumbag and move on away from a criminal past.

You miss the point, if the Aboriginals of today are owed an apology for the way that their ancestors were treated by the Victorian authorities and others, then so are all the other people who were mistreated.
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Reply #19 - Today at 9:12am
 
Brian Ross wrote Yesterday at 9:52am:


Just a repetition of apologies that were made & the reparations that have already been paid decades ago.

Another self loathing Labor party & the identity politics that infests it. Justifying their Treaty & Voice BS.
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Reply #20 - Today at 9:14am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 3:14pm:
John Smith wrote Yesterday at 10:14am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 10:12am:
especially the Irish ones


The Irish should apologise to Australia Cheesy Cheesy

Why, in your learned opinion?


Smith doesn't have a learned opinion on anything.  Wink
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