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Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong
Reply #15 - Yesterday at 7:13am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 1:36pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 12:53pm:

This is a way to control woman, and their body.

Very sad.

OK so what about drugs, should the GOP allow women to use drugs as they please or would that be a way to control women, and their body.

Before you go on a rant I think abortion is a moral thing and I don't expect others to have the same morals that I do. Some think its a legal thing and approach it from that angle but I support majority rules in legal things mostly.

Leroy, imagine that your daughter (I have no idea if you have any children) is out at a party one night. Through no fault of her own, her drink is spiked and she ends up getting raped by an offender who fails to use a condom and she ends up pregnant. Lets assume you live in the U.S. state of Texas in which there is a blanket ban on abortion - no exceptions.

Your daughter is not legally permitted to abort the pregnancy and she must take the pregnancy to full term. Now imagine she is 15 years old - not 18 or 21 or 25. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion? What if it was discovered during a regular pregnancy scan that the baby was diagnosed with trisomy 18, a genetic disorder that results in the unborn baby developing horrific physical defects that make it very unlikely it will survive to full term and that without an abortion, this unborn baby threatens the life of the pregnant girl - your daughter. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion?

This isn't theoretical - it's happening in states across the United States right now.

Where have I supported a blanket ban on abortion.

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Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong
Reply #16 - Yesterday at 7:16am

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 7:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 1:36pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 12:53pm:

This is a way to control woman, and their body.

Very sad.

OK so what about drugs, should the GOP allow women to use drugs as they please or would that be a way to control women, and their body.

Before you go on a rant I think abortion is a moral thing and I don't expect others to have the same morals that I do. Some think its a legal thing and approach it from that angle but I support majority rules in legal things mostly.

Leroy, imagine that your daughter (I have no idea if you have any children) is out at a party one night. Through no fault of her own, her drink is spiked and she ends up getting raped by an offender who fails to use a condom and she ends up pregnant. Lets assume you live in the U.S. state of Texas in which there is a blanket ban on abortion - no exceptions.

Your daughter is not legally permitted to abort the pregnancy and she must take the pregnancy to full term. Now imagine she is 15 years old - not 18 or 21 or 25. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion? What if it was discovered during a regular pregnancy scan that the baby was diagnosed with trisomy 18, a genetic disorder that results in the unborn baby developing horrific physical defects that make it very unlikely it will survive to full term and that without an abortion, this unborn baby threatens the life of the pregnant girl - your daughter. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion?

This isn't theoretical - it's happening in states across the United States right now.

Where have I supported a blanket ban on abortion.

More to the point, where have you spoken against it.

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Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong
Reply #17 - Yesterday at 7:19am

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 5:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 3:31pm:

They see The Handmaid's Tale as a comedy series.

or they see it as their instruction manual

Even the bits where the young girls and women were made sex slaves to the powers that be.

Women in their place ... and that is awaiting the instruction and brutalisation of man.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78289 Gender:	Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong Reply #18 - Yesterday at 7:21am mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:16am: More to the point, where have you spoken against it. or not deflected from it?
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mothra Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 36290 Gender:	Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong Reply #19 - Yesterday at 7:29am John Smith wrote Yesterday at 7:21am: mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:16am: More to the point, where have you spoken against it. or not deflected from it? Or reduced outrage against such things as TDS.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78289 Gender:	Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong Reply #20 - Yesterday at 7:32am mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:29am: John Smith wrote Yesterday at 7:21am: mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:16am: More to the point, where have you spoken against it. or not deflected from it? Or reduced outrage against such things as TDS. That's how he usually deals with bad news
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51457 Gender:	Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong Reply #21 - Yesterday at 8:04am Comparative maternal death rates: https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2024/jun/insights-us-... Covid did increase maternal deaths somewhat.
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Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong
Reply #22 - Yesterday at 8:26am

mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:16am:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 7:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 1:36pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 12:53pm:

This is a way to control woman, and their body.

Very sad.

OK so what about drugs, should the GOP allow women to use drugs as they please or would that be a way to control women, and their body.

Before you go on a rant I think abortion is a moral thing and I don't expect others to have the same morals that I do. Some think its a legal thing and approach it from that angle but I support majority rules in legal things mostly.

Leroy, imagine that your daughter (I have no idea if you have any children) is out at a party one night. Through no fault of her own, her drink is spiked and she ends up getting raped by an offender who fails to use a condom and she ends up pregnant. Lets assume you live in the U.S. state of Texas in which there is a blanket ban on abortion - no exceptions.

Your daughter is not legally permitted to abort the pregnancy and she must take the pregnancy to full term. Now imagine she is 15 years old - not 18 or 21 or 25. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion? What if it was discovered during a regular pregnancy scan that the baby was diagnosed with trisomy 18, a genetic disorder that results in the unborn baby developing horrific physical defects that make it very unlikely it will survive to full term and that without an abortion, this unborn baby threatens the life of the pregnant girl - your daughter. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion?

This isn't theoretical - it's happening in states across the United States right now.

Where have I supported a blanket ban on abortion.

More to the point, where have you spoken against it.

I have not spoken for or against it, pregnant women not only don't care what I think they have no interest in my personal opinion.

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Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong
Reply #23 - Yesterday at 11:37am

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 8:26am:

mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:16am:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 7:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 1:36pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 12:53pm:

This is a way to control woman, and their body.

Very sad.

OK so what about drugs, should the GOP allow women to use drugs as they please or would that be a way to control women, and their body.

Before you go on a rant I think abortion is a moral thing and I don't expect others to have the same morals that I do. Some think its a legal thing and approach it from that angle but I support majority rules in legal things mostly.

Leroy, imagine that your daughter (I have no idea if you have any children) is out at a party one night. Through no fault of her own, her drink is spiked and she ends up getting raped by an offender who fails to use a condom and she ends up pregnant. Lets assume you live in the U.S. state of Texas in which there is a blanket ban on abortion - no exceptions.

Your daughter is not legally permitted to abort the pregnancy and she must take the pregnancy to full term. Now imagine she is 15 years old - not 18 or 21 or 25. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion? What if it was discovered during a regular pregnancy scan that the baby was diagnosed with trisomy 18, a genetic disorder that results in the unborn baby developing horrific physical defects that make it very unlikely it will survive to full term and that without an abortion, this unborn baby threatens the life of the pregnant girl - your daughter. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion?

This isn't theoretical - it's happening in states across the United States right now.

Where have I supported a blanket ban on abortion.

More to the point, where have you spoken against it.

I have not spoken for or against it, pregnant women not only don't care what I think they have no interest in my personal opinion.

Surely you have an opinion.

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Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong
Reply #24 - Yesterday at 12:08pm

There is no "GOP abortion ban".

The jurisdiction to make laws about abortion has been removed from une;lected SCOTUS judges and returned to where it belongs -the state legislatures.

It si the same in aother federated countries such as Australia. It was a judivcial anomaly for the SCOTUS to appropriate legislative power from the states by inventing a constitutional basis for Roe v Wade. That constitutional basis does not exist so the power to make laws about abortion is with the electors in each state. They are free to elect representatives who will make laws to permit or prohibit abortion.
California was the home state of Republican presidents Nixon and Reagan. Now it's Kackela Country. LBJ was a Democrat prez from Texas, Dubya a Republican from Texas. O'Bama was a Kenyan from Indonesia. Trump was a Democrat before he was a Republican.

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Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong
Reply #25 - Yesterday at 5:45pm

Frank wrote Yesterday at 12:08pm:

There is no "GOP abortion ban".

The jurisdiction to make laws about abortion has been removed from une;lected SCOTUS judges and returned to where it belongs -the state legislatures.

It si the same in aother federated countries such as Australia. It was a judivcial anomaly for the SCOTUS to appropriate legislative power from the states by inventing a constitutional basis for Roe v Wade. That constitutional basis does not exist so the power to make laws about abortion is with the electors in each state. They are free to elect representatives who will make laws to permit or prohibit abortion.
California was the home state of Republican presidents Nixon and Reagan. Now it's Kackela Country. LBJ was a Democrat prez from Texas, Dubya a Republican from Texas. O'Bama was a Kenyan from Indonesia. Trump was a Democrat before he was a Republican.

Wrong. The only states in the U.S. that have abortion bans are Republican states. Not one Democrat state has a total abortion ban - only GOP states do.

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Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong
Reply #26 - Yesterday at 6:53pm

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 8:26am:

mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:16am:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 7:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 1:36pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 12:53pm:

This is a way to control woman, and their body.

Very sad.

OK so what about drugs, should the GOP allow women to use drugs as they please or would that be a way to control women, and their body.

Before you go on a rant I think abortion is a moral thing and I don't expect others to have the same morals that I do. Some think its a legal thing and approach it from that angle but I support majority rules in legal things mostly.

Leroy, imagine that your daughter (I have no idea if you have any children) is out at a party one night. Through no fault of her own, her drink is spiked and she ends up getting raped by an offender who fails to use a condom and she ends up pregnant. Lets assume you live in the U.S. state of Texas in which there is a blanket ban on abortion - no exceptions.

Your daughter is not legally permitted to abort the pregnancy and she must take the pregnancy to full term. Now imagine she is 15 years old - not 18 or 21 or 25. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion? What if it was discovered during a regular pregnancy scan that the baby was diagnosed with trisomy 18, a genetic disorder that results in the unborn baby developing horrific physical defects that make it very unlikely it will survive to full term and that without an abortion, this unborn baby threatens the life of the pregnant girl - your daughter. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion?

This isn't theoretical - it's happening in states across the United States right now.

Where have I supported a blanket ban on abortion.

More to the point, where have you spoken against it.

I have not spoken for or against it, pregnant women not only don't care what I think they have no interest in my personal opinion.

so why are you posting on a political forum? Cheesy

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Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong
Reply #27 - Yesterday at 7:21pm

Armchair_Politician wrote Yesterday at 5:45pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 12:08pm:

There is no "GOP abortion ban".

The jurisdiction to make laws about abortion has been removed from une;lected SCOTUS judges and returned to where it belongs -the state legislatures.

It si the same in aother federated countries such as Australia. It was a judivcial anomaly for the SCOTUS to appropriate legislative power from the states by inventing a constitutional basis for Roe v Wade. That constitutional basis does not exist so the power to make laws about abortion is with the electors in each state. They are free to elect representatives who will make laws to permit or prohibit abortion.
California was the home state of Republican presidents Nixon and Reagan. Now it's Kackela Country. LBJ was a Democrat prez from Texas, Dubya a Republican from Texas. O'Bama was a Kenyan from Indonesia. Trump was a Democrat before he was a Republican.

Wrong. The only states in the U.S. that have abortion bans are Republican states. Not one Democrat state has a total abortion ban - only GOP states do.

Let the people vote them out of office if they don't like it.

The decision is with the people in each state. That is the long and short of it.

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Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong
Reply #28 - Yesterday at 7:45pm

John Smith wrote Yesterday at 6:53pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 8:26am:

mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:16am:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 7:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 1:36pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 12:53pm:

This is a way to control woman, and their body.

Very sad.

OK so what about drugs, should the GOP allow women to use drugs as they please or would that be a way to control women, and their body.

Before you go on a rant I think abortion is a moral thing and I don't expect others to have the same morals that I do. Some think its a legal thing and approach it from that angle but I support majority rules in legal things mostly.

Leroy, imagine that your daughter (I have no idea if you have any children) is out at a party one night. Through no fault of her own, her drink is spiked and she ends up getting raped by an offender who fails to use a condom and she ends up pregnant. Lets assume you live in the U.S. state of Texas in which there is a blanket ban on abortion - no exceptions.

Your daughter is not legally permitted to abort the pregnancy and she must take the pregnancy to full term. Now imagine she is 15 years old - not 18 or 21 or 25. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion? What if it was discovered during a regular pregnancy scan that the baby was diagnosed with trisomy 18, a genetic disorder that results in the unborn baby developing horrific physical defects that make it very unlikely it will survive to full term and that without an abortion, this unborn baby threatens the life of the pregnant girl - your daughter. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion?

This isn't theoretical - it's happening in states across the United States right now.

Where have I supported a blanket ban on abortion.

More to the point, where have you spoken against it.

I have not spoken for or against it, pregnant women not only don't care what I think they have no interest in my personal opinion.

so why are you posting on a political forum? Cheesy

To have my say, does that bother you?.

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Re: Why the GOP abortion ban is so very wrong
Reply #29 - Yesterday at 7:59pm

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 7:45pm:

John Smith wrote Yesterday at 6:53pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 8:26am:

mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:16am:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 7:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 2:07pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 1:36pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 12:53pm:

This is a way to control woman, and their body.

Very sad.

OK so what about drugs, should the GOP allow women to use drugs as they please or would that be a way to control women, and their body.

Before you go on a rant I think abortion is a moral thing and I don't expect others to have the same morals that I do. Some think its a legal thing and approach it from that angle but I support majority rules in legal things mostly.

Leroy, imagine that your daughter (I have no idea if you have any children) is out at a party one night. Through no fault of her own, her drink is spiked and she ends up getting raped by an offender who fails to use a condom and she ends up pregnant. Lets assume you live in the U.S. state of Texas in which there is a blanket ban on abortion - no exceptions.

Your daughter is not legally permitted to abort the pregnancy and she must take the pregnancy to full term. Now imagine she is 15 years old - not 18 or 21 or 25. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion? What if it was discovered during a regular pregnancy scan that the baby was diagnosed with trisomy 18, a genetic disorder that results in the unborn baby developing horrific physical defects that make it very unlikely it will survive to full term and that without an abortion, this unborn baby threatens the life of the pregnant girl - your daughter. Do you still support this blanket ban on abortion?

This isn't theoretical - it's happening in states across the United States right now.

Where have I supported a blanket ban on abortion.

More to the point, where have you spoken against it.

I have not spoken for or against it, pregnant women not only don't care what I think they have no interest in my personal opinion.

so why are you posting on a political forum? Cheesy

To have my say, does that bother you?.

so you'll voice your opinion whether someone is interested in it or not?

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