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Reply #15 - Yesterday at 6:44pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 6:37pm:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 6:23pm:
Ajax wrote Yesterday at 5:59pm:
Example

WW2 german v british dogfight in the air if one plane is hit and the pilot parachutes out it is a war crime for the pilot in the victorious aeroplane to come back and shoot the pilot in the parachute out of the sky.

Where is the evidence that these boats are carrying drugs to the united states?

Have they even got the petrol to go to the USA?


It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA.

Moreover, there has been zero evidence presented to support the claim that the boats were carrying illicit drugs.

This is quite simply the mass murder of innocent people.

Thank for lying, as usual.



All facts.

It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA. 
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The Trump Administration’s justification for striking a boat in the Caribbean in early September, killing all 11 people on board, was that it was carrying a cargo of potentially deadly drugs that was headed to the United States.

But that justification appears to have been undermined by a briefing from the commander of that operation before lawmakers on Thursday, who reportedly said the boat in question was heading to the coast of Suriname.
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Re: Hegseth continues to defend the indefensible
Reply #16 - Yesterday at 7:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 6:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 6:37pm:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 6:23pm:
Ajax wrote Yesterday at 5:59pm:
Example

WW2 german v british dogfight in the air if one plane is hit and the pilot parachutes out it is a war crime for the pilot in the victorious aeroplane to come back and shoot the pilot in the parachute out of the sky.

Where is the evidence that these boats are carrying drugs to the united states?

Have they even got the petrol to go to the USA?


It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA.

Moreover, there has been zero evidence presented to support the claim that the boats were carrying illicit drugs.

This is quite simply the mass murder of innocent people.

Thank for lying, as usual.



All facts.

It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA. 
Fact




The Trump Administration’s justification for striking a boat in the Caribbean in early September, killing all 11 people on board, was that it was carrying a cargo of potentially deadly drugs that was headed to the United States.

But that justification appears to have been undermined by a briefing from the commander of that operation before lawmakers on Thursday, who reportedly said the boat in question was heading to the coast of Suriname.


Appear away, repulsive creep.

Time to go and wash my hands after interacting with you.
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Re: Hegseth continues to defend the indefensible
Reply #17 - Yesterday at 11:08pm
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 6:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 6:37pm:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 6:23pm:
Ajax wrote Yesterday at 5:59pm:
Example

WW2 german v british dogfight in the air if one plane is hit and the pilot parachutes out it is a war crime for the pilot in the victorious aeroplane to come back and shoot the pilot in the parachute out of the sky.

Where is the evidence that these boats are carrying drugs to the united states?

Have they even got the petrol to go to the USA?


It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA.

Moreover, there has been zero evidence presented to support the claim that the boats were carrying illicit drugs.

This is quite simply the mass murder of innocent people.

Thank for lying, as usual.



All facts.

It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA. 
Fact




The Trump Administration’s justification for striking a boat in the Caribbean in early September, killing all 11 people on board, was that it was carrying a cargo of potentially deadly drugs that was headed to the United States.

But that justification appears to have been undermined by a briefing from the commander of that operation before lawmakers on Thursday, who reportedly said the boat in question was heading to the coast of Suriname.


Appear away, repulsive creep.

Time to go and wash my hands after interacting with you.


Hey, old boy, mind your manners and wash your arse too, yeah?

Other people need to use it when Greggery's done.
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Reply #18 - Today at 2:31am
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:49pm:
Appear away, repulsive creep.

Time to go and wash my hands after interacting with you.



Have a feeling your fingers are sticky all the time, fat Frank.
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Reply #19 - Today at 7:15am
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:39pm:
You are lying. You know it, I know it.



Present your evidence Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #20 - Today at 7:41am
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 6:23pm:
Ajax wrote Yesterday at 5:59pm:
Example

WW2 german v british dogfight in the air if one plane is hit and the pilot parachutes out it is a war crime for the pilot in the victorious aeroplane to come back and shoot the pilot in the parachute out of the sky.

Where is the evidence that these boats are carrying drugs to the united states?

Have they even got the petrol to go to the USA?


It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA.

Moreover, there has been zero evidence presented to support the claim that the boats were carrying illicit drugs.

This is quite simply the mass murder of innocent people.

Thank for lying, as usual.

And who the **** are YOU, Slovenian union organiser creepy wanker, to be given evidence to so you can approve? Who the bloody ***k do you think you are, creepy, repulsive slandering *%&^**?


There are THIUSANDS of boats in the Carribean. Who is complaining? Narco states.





Christ on a bike!

The Fruitbat down't half get triggered, does he.

Hilarious!
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Reply #21 - Today at 7:47am
 
mothra wrote Today at 7:41am:
Christ on a bike!

The Fruitbat down't half get triggered, does he.

Hilarious!



Lately he's been going of like a cracker on new years eve ... I suspect he's on the verge of having a heart attack or stroke unless learns to calm down Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #22 - Today at 9:30am
 
John Smith wrote Today at 7:15am:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:39pm:
You are lying. You know it, I know it.



Present your evidence Cheesy Cheesy


Still not a single piece of evidence from Hegseth.

Nothing.  Nada.  Zip.  Zero.

And, even if he did present evidence that proves the boats were loaded with illicit drugs and that they were headed directly to the US, that doesn't justify murdering the people onboard.

Summary executions are illegal under US law and international human rights standards.

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Reply #23 - Today at 10:09am
 
In another briefing, Bradley was asked whether Hegseth gave him a “no quarter order,” which is an illegal military directive to kill all enemy combatants and show no mercy, even if they surrender or are gravely injured, one of the U.S. officials and a second person with knowledge of the briefing said. They said Bradley replied that he was not given such an order and would not have followed one if it had been given. The White House and Hegseth have said no illegal orders were given.

Unlike a “no quarter order,” an order to kill everyone on a target list is not forbidden under U.S. and international law.

The three sources said Bradley said the military struck the boat with a GBU-69, a precision-guided munition that was set to air burst, meaning it detonated in midair rather than on impact. He said the explosion killed nine of the people on board, capsized the boat and damaged the back of it, including the motor.

Another part of the boat split off and caught fire, but a major section of the boat was not ablaze. The damage made the boat unlikely to continue navigating, Bradley told lawmakers.

For more than 30 minutes, Bradley said, he observed the two survivors among the wreckage.

He told lawmakers there were bags of cocaine on the boat that were not ejected during the initial explosion. Because the bags of cocaine were not seen floating in the water, Bradley said he believed they were strapped in and had stayed tied down during the explosion, making it likely the drugs were still under the capsized boat.

The cocaine was wrapped in plastic waterproof bundles, which likely made them more buoyant and may have contributed to the boat not sinking, he told lawmakers.

The two survivors got on the side of the boat that was not on fire and were able to flip it over and eventually stand on it.

Bradley observed them take off their shirts to check each other for wounds and told lawmakers they did not appear to have any visible injuries. He said the military’s overhead surveillance zoomed in to ensure the survivors weren’t injured or bleeding.

A U.S. military aircraft overhead spotted the survivors waving their arms but could not say with certainty whether they were signaling to the aircraft, Bradley told lawmakers, according to the three sources.

He said he determined that while the boat sustained damage significant enough that it may not be able to navigate, it may still have been able to keep floating or drifting.

U.S. intelligence also spotted another larger boat in the area, determining that the damaged boat was supposed to link up with it to transfer the drugs onto the larger vessel.

The larger boat was not on the approved target list Bradley had, so he did not have the authority strike it. He said because the U.S. did not have positive identification of who was on the larger boat, waiting to see if it came to try to salvage the damaged boat and two survivors was not a viable option.

Bradley explained, the three sources said, that his decision to target the boat with the survivors was because the drugs were not destroyed and the individuals on the boat had not surrendered and were not visibly injured but were still on the list of approved targets. And while the survivors were not armed, he said the mission identified the drugs as the threat to the U.S., effectively deeming the cocaine as the weapon that could endanger Americans.

Even so, Bradley acknowledged to lawmakers that U.S. intelligence did not conclude the drugs were heading to the U.S. Rather it showed that the boat was traveling south toward another country in South America, Suriname, which was first reported by CNN. Bradley told the lawmakers the drugs were eventually heading to Europe or Africa.

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Reply #24 - Today at 10:15am
 
Frank wrote Today at 10:09am:
He told lawmakers there were bags of cocaine on the boat that were not ejected during the initial explosion.


Yes, so he "said".

No evidence to support his claim though.

Nothing.  Nada.  Zip.  Zero.
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Reply #25 - Today at 10:26am
 
Frank wrote Today at 10:09am:
... Bradley acknowledged to lawmakers that U.S. intelligence did not conclude the drugs were heading to the U.S. Rather it showed that the boat was traveling south toward another country in South America, Suriname, which was first reported by CNN. Bradley told the lawmakers the drugs were eventually heading to Europe or Africa.


Ah.

So, now it's not a lie?   Undecided

Make up your mind, Frank.
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Reply #26 - Today at 10:48am
 
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U.S. intelligence also spotted another larger boat in the area,
determining that the damaged boat was supposed to link up with it
to transfer the drugs onto the larger vessel.


I suppose if they play silly games they win silly prizes?


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Reply #27 - Today at 11:06am
 
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:26pm:
How do Frank and aquascoot fall for this stuff?  Seriously?


They're not merely duped anymore, they're petrified of confronting reality itself, terrified of admitting they were lied to and that they've been catastrophically wrong this entire time.

No longer being misled, they're leaning into their own self‑inflicted TDS, clinging to political fairytales because it's the only bulwark they have left against the mounting cognitive dissonance.

They actively choose comforting fiction over uncomfortable fact, then scramble to justify that choice with arguments so flimsy they collapse under their own weight.

Their fragility and insecurity are immeasurable, which is precisely why they resonate so intensely with Trump and so willingly reduce themselves to his lackeys.

Simping for Trump, the new self‑declared Alphas, a tragicomic evolution of political masculinity.
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Reply #28 - Today at 12:16pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote Today at 11:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:26pm:
How do Frank and aquascoot fall for this stuff?  Seriously?


duped  petrified confronting reality  terrified admitting catastrophically entire misled, self‑inflicted TDS, clinging fairytales bulwark cognitive dissonanca, comforting fiction uncomfortable fact scramble  flimsy collapse own weight. fragility and insecurity immeasurable precisely resonate intensely willingly reduce lackeys simping Alphas tragicomic evolution political masculinity.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


You ARE your own caricature, rambling, talkative, prolix, wordy, pleonastic, long-winded, logorrheic, loquacious, voluble, windy little teapot!

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Reply #29 - Today at 12:52pm
 
Frank wrote Today at 12:16pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote Today at 11:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:26pm:
How do Frank and aquascoot fall for this stuff?  Seriously?


duped  petrified confronting reality  terrified admitting catastrophically entire misled, self‑inflicted TDS, clinging fairytales bulwark cognitive dissonanca, comforting fiction uncomfortable fact scramble  flimsy collapse own weight. fragility and insecurity immeasurable precisely resonate intensely willingly reduce lackeys simping Alphas tragicomic evolution political masculinity.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


You ARE your own caricature, rambling, talkative, prolix, wordy, pleonastic, long-winded, logorrheic, loquacious, voluble, windy little teapot!

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy





Ah oh, caught editing quotes again Frannie...  Tsk tsk you little bitch...  Taking the cowards way out again.
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