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Hegseth continues to defend the indefensible
Dec 7th, 2025 at 12:04pm
 
This moron has been by far the worst SecDef in the history of the United States. From Signalgate to lecturing Generals and Admirals and now blowing up boats in the water suspected of carrying drugs - including some not even heading toward the US - Hegseth's tenure has been an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions. Trump claims that his administration is the toughest on drugs ever, yet he just pardoned the former President of Honduras who was convicted in a US court of shipping over 400 tonnes of drugs into the US. I mean, if it wasn't so incredibly serious, it would be beyond hilarious how many mistakes this bunch of imbeciles have made!

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/06/politics/hegseth-carribean-military-action-de...
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Reply #1 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 12:18pm
 

Pisshead Pete is hopeless.

What do the MAGA crowd have to say about the Honduras drug smuggler being pardoned?

How do they justify that?

I'm curious to see how they spin that one.
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Reply #2 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 12:22pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 12:18pm:
Pisshead Pete is hopeless.

What do the MAGA crowd have to say about the Honduras drug smuggler being pardoned?

How do they justify that?

I'm curious to see how they spin that one.


I am sure the MAGA cult members will just go with whatever Trump says. As for the Republicans in Congress, it's time for them to grow a pair and stand up to Trump when he makes idiotic decisions like this. If they don't, then they'll get obliterated at the mid-terms next year and probably worse at the next Presidential election.
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Reply #3 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 12:26pm
 

How do Frank and aquascoot fall for this stuff?  Seriously?

President Donald Trump pardoned Juan Orlando Hernández, the former president of Honduras, on Dec. 1, claiming without evidence that his prosecution had been a “setup” by the Biden administration and that Hernández was targeted because he was president of a country where drug cartels operated.

But Hernández had been found guilty by a jury after a three-week trial. He was sentenced by a U.S. District judge last year to 45 years in prison for using his position to help drug traffickers import more than 400 tons of cocaine into the United States, while accepting bribes to fuel his political career and protecting violent drug cartel leaders from prosecution in return.

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt defended Trump’s action as a reversal of “over-prosecution” by the Biden administration. Hernández had been targeted because he was “opposed to the values of the previous administration,” Leavitt told reporters on Dec. 1.

We asked the White House for evidence or further explanation that Hernández’s case had been a “setup” or “over-prosecution” by the Biden administration, but we didn’t receive any response beyond the statements made by the president and Leavitt on Dec. 1.


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Reply #4 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 12:32pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 12:26pm:
How do Frank and aquascoot fall for this stuff?  Seriously?

President Donald Trump pardoned Juan Orlando Hernández, the former president of Honduras, on Dec. 1, claiming without evidence that his prosecution had been a “setup” by the Biden administration and that Hernández was targeted because he was president of a country where drug cartels operated.

But Hernández had been found guilty by a jury after a three-week trial. He was sentenced by a U.S. District judge last year to 45 years in prison for using his position to help drug traffickers import more than 400 tons of cocaine into the United States, while accepting bribes to fuel his political career and protecting violent drug cartel leaders from prosecution in return.

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt defended Trump’s action as a reversal of “over-prosecution” by the Biden administration. Hernández had been targeted because he was “opposed to the values of the previous administration,” Leavitt told reporters on Dec. 1.

We asked the White House for evidence or further explanation that Hernández’s case had been a “setup” or “over-prosecution” by the Biden administration, but we didn’t receive any response beyond the statements made by the president and Leavitt on Dec. 1.




No one gets sentenced to 45 years prison after being accused of helping drug traffickers import more than 400 tonnes of drugs without there being substantial evidence for a conviction, least of all a former foreign head of state. The truth is there was no set-up - it's just another in a long list of blatant lies by the Trump administration to justify their mind boggling decisions.
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Reply #5 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 12:43pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 12:26pm:
“over-prosecution” by the Biden administration,

Ya gotta love that over-prosecution. Fire two missiles at a motor boat and there's not much left to be imprisoned.
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Reply #7 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 2:15pm
 
chimera wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 12:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 12:26pm:
“over-prosecution” by the Biden administration,

Ya gotta love that over-prosecution. Fire two missiles at a motor boat and there's not much left to be imprisoned.


For years the U.S. Coast Guard has been highly successful at capturing these drug carrying boats and bringing the occupants in to face U.S. courts. I do not understand how Trump has justified the need to carry out missile strikes on these boats - some of which aren't even heading toward the United States. He claims he plans to carry out land strikes on Venezuela because of drugs being shipped from there to the U.S. and yet issues a full pardon to the former President of Honduras after he helped smuggle 400 tonnes of drugs into the U.S. One could be forgiven for experiencing whiplash over the abrupt changes in Trump's policy decision-making. As with everything involving Trump, it is knee-jerk and not based on evidence or fact.
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Reply #8 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 2:55pm
 
Putin's got the hypersonic whiz-bangs and nuke torpedoes to send a tsunami across UK.
Trump, well Trump's got an aircraft carrier and missiles to take out a tinny. And its fishermen.
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Reply #9 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 5:59pm
 
Example

WW2 german v british dogfight in the air if one plane is hit and the pilot parachutes out it is a war crime for the pilot in the victorious aeroplane to come back and shoot the pilot in the parachute out of the sky.

Where is the evidence that these boats are carrying drugs to the united states?

Have they even got the petrol to go to the USA?
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Reply #10 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:23pm
 
Ajax wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Example

WW2 german v british dogfight in the air if one plane is hit and the pilot parachutes out it is a war crime for the pilot in the victorious aeroplane to come back and shoot the pilot in the parachute out of the sky.

Where is the evidence that these boats are carrying drugs to the united states?

Have they even got the petrol to go to the USA?


It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA.

Moreover, there has been zero evidence presented to support the claim that the boats were carrying illicit drugs.

This is quite simply the mass murder of innocent people.
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Reply #11 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:30pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:23pm:
Ajax wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Example

WW2 german v british dogfight in the air if one plane is hit and the pilot parachutes out it is a war crime for the pilot in the victorious aeroplane to come back and shoot the pilot in the parachute out of the sky.

Where is the evidence that these boats are carrying drugs to the united states?

Have they even got the petrol to go to the USA?


It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA.

Moreover, there has been zero evidence presented to support the claim that the boats were carrying illicit drugs.

This is quite simply the mass murder of innocent people.

Thank for lying, as usual.

And who the **** are YOU, Slovenian union organiser creepy wanker, to be given evidence to so you can approve? Who the bloody ***k do you think you are, creepy, repulsive slandering *%&^**?


There are THIUSANDS of boats in the Carribean. Who is complaining? Narco states.


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Reply #12 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:30pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:23pm:
Ajax wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Example

WW2 german v british dogfight in the air if one plane is hit and the pilot parachutes out it is a war crime for the pilot in the victorious aeroplane to come back and shoot the pilot in the parachute out of the sky.

Where is the evidence that these boats are carrying drugs to the united states?

Have they even got the petrol to go to the USA?


It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA.

Moreover, there has been zero evidence presented to support the claim that the boats were carrying illicit drugs.

This is quite simply the mass murder of innocent people.


Coolagree
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Reply #13 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:37pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:23pm:
Ajax wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Example

WW2 german v british dogfight in the air if one plane is hit and the pilot parachutes out it is a war crime for the pilot in the victorious aeroplane to come back and shoot the pilot in the parachute out of the sky.

Where is the evidence that these boats are carrying drugs to the united states?

Have they even got the petrol to go to the USA?


It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA.

Moreover, there has been zero evidence presented to support the claim that the boats were carrying illicit drugs.

This is quite simply the mass murder of innocent people.

Thank for lying, as usual.



All facts.

It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA. 
Fact


Moreover, there has been zero evidence presented to support the claim that the boats were carrying illicit drugs. 
Fact


This is quite simply the mass murder of innocent people.
Fact
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Reply #14 - Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:37pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 6:23pm:
Ajax wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Example

WW2 german v british dogfight in the air if one plane is hit and the pilot parachutes out it is a war crime for the pilot in the victorious aeroplane to come back and shoot the pilot in the parachute out of the sky.

Where is the evidence that these boats are carrying drugs to the united states?

Have they even got the petrol to go to the USA?


It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA.

Moreover, there has been zero evidence presented to support the claim that the boats were carrying illicit drugs.

This is quite simply the mass murder of innocent people.

Thank for lying, as usual.



All facts.

It's been proven now that at least one of the boats was not headed to the USA. 
Fact


Moreover, there has been zero evidence presented to support the claim that the boats were carrying illicit drugs. 
Fact


This is quite simply the mass murder of innocent people.
Fact

You are lying. You know it, I know it.

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