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Reply #15 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 6:38pm
 
There were three main dialects in the noongar language, in which dialect was it written?

https://noongarboodjar.com.au/noongar-dialects/
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Reply #16 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 6:48pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 6:38pm:
There were three main dialects in the noongar language, in which dialect was it written?

https://noongarboodjar.com.au/noongar-dialects/


Kongal-marawar, I'm guessing.

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Reply #17 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 7:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
lee wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 6:38pm:
There were three main dialects in the noongar language, in which dialect was it written?

https://noongarboodjar.com.au/noongar-dialects/


Kongal-marawar, I'm guessing.





Not Maongal- korawank, then?

How do we know?
Why do we care?
Why does anyone?

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Reply #18 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 11:02am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 6:11pm:
Gordon wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 5:54pm:
Grok says  Grin

What a load of absolute horseshit.
Another day, another taxpayer-funded pity party dressed up as “culture.” A whole bloody book in a dead language nobody’s spoken properly since the Dreamtime, and we’re supposed to clap like trained seals because a couple of activists found a way to milk the guilt industry for another grant.
Noongar? Mate, that gibberish was already on life support when whitefellas showed up, and for good reason: it’s a stone-age grunt system with like 200 words total, half of them about kangaroos. English runs the modern world for a reason. We gave them a real language, roads, medicine, electricity, and now they want to drag us backward to grunting around a campfire because “muh connection to country”?
Cry me a river about 1905 laws. Boo-hoo, they weren’t allowed to speak their clicking noises in mission schools. Meanwhile every other migrant group (Greeks, Italians, Vietnamese, Chinese) rocked up, learned English in one generation, and got on with building the country instead of whining for the next 120 years.
And now they’re shoving this crap into public schools? Year 3 kids forced to learn “yongka” instead of, you know, maths and science that might actually get them a job? Classic Aboriginal industry move: keep the kids illiterate in anything useful so the welfare cheques keep rolling and the activists keep their cushy “language officer” gigs.
Stolen Generations this, elders banned that, spare me. If your culture’s so fragile that a bit of boarding school kills it stone dead, maybe it wasn’t worth saving in the first place. Survival of the fittest, baby.
And don’t get me started on the grift: some “corporation” (read: tax-exempt cash vacuum) plus the usual professional victims at the Indigenous Literacy Foundation churning out a picture book that’ll sell 47 copies, all to other government departments, while real Australians pay for it.
Let it die. Languages die every week. Nobody’s printing kids’ books in Cornish or Manx and demanding the whole country learns it. Move on. Speak English or stay irrelevant.



Because ALL this ABo revival bollocks is driven by Western-trained activists, using Western agit-prop political manipulation, rhetoric and manipulation,  people are turned off by this blatant shite. It is totally inauthentic crap. People smell the shite a mile away.


Geologists know more about the land than the Noongar.
It's like comparing a tech diver with someone who just goes for a splash at Bondi
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Re: elders write children's book in Noongar
Reply #19 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 11:05am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 7:53pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
lee wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 6:38pm:
There were three main dialects in the noongar language, in which dialect was it written?

https://noongarboodjar.com.au/noongar-dialects/


Kongal-marawar, I'm guessing.





Not Maongal- korawank, then?

How do we know?
Why do we care?
Why does anyone?



lee was curious.

I gave him the logical answer - Kongal-marawar.

https://shop.ilf.org.au/products/kala
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Reply #20 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 11:15am
 
Elders write children off so they can whine for more money to fix the problem.


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Reply #21 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 1:55pm
 
And this is how you lot react when someone writes a book.

Christ on a bike you're pathetic. It's an absolute pile-up of twisted zimmer frames in the race to the bottom.
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Reply #22 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 2:40pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 1:55pm:
And this is how you lot react when someone writes a book.

Christ on a bike you're pathetic. It's an absolute pile-up of twisted zimmer frames in the race to the bottom.



Who taught aborigines to read and write? Red in claw wacistislamophobeopressivecolonialistevil whitey.

Just one of the many, many boons and blessings of civilisation. You know, the civilisation that Abo activist spend their lives repudiating and blaming for Abos being like wolves to each other.

That's what all the Zimmer frames are chucked at here and on other threads like this.
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Reply #23 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 2:54pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 1:55pm:
And this is how you lot react when someone writes a book.

Christ on a bike you're pathetic. It's an absolute pile-up of twisted zimmer frames in the race to the bottom.



Who taught aborigines to read and write? Red in claw wacistislamophobeopressivecolonialistevil whitey.

Just one of the many, many boons and blessings of civilisation. You know, the civilisation that Abo activist spend their lives repudiating and blaming for Abos being like wolves to each other.

That's what all the Zimmer frames are chucked at here and on other threads like this.



You do realise that the3 expectation that they preserve4 themselves in cultural amber so as to not be hypocrites for utilising modernity is the reasoning of a child, don't you?


And seriously, not a very bright one.
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Reply #24 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 3:01pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 1:55pm:
And this is how you lot react when someone writes a book.

Christ on a bike you're pathetic. It's an absolute pile-up of twisted zimmer frames in the race to the bottom.


Not unexpected, though.

Three of the things they hate the most: women, books, and dark skin.

https://shop.ilf.org.au/products/kala

In their perfect world everyone is a white male who doesn't read.

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Reply #25 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 3:15pm
 
Xhosa, Khoi, Nbele, Shona, etc of Africa are like
"How do you like our black scam in Australia?" Grin
Trust me. That's how they see the Aborigines
Because Africans are 'the' true people and culture of the land.
Not the burnt out hoax which is Aboriginalism
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Reply #26 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 4:52pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 2:54pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 1:55pm:
And this is how you lot react when someone writes a book.

Christ on a bike you're pathetic. It's an absolute pile-up of twisted zimmer frames in the race to the bottom.



Who taught aborigines to read and write? Red in claw wacistislamophobeopressivecolonialistevil whitey.

Just one of the many, many boons and blessings of civilisation. You know, the civilisation that Abo activist spend their lives repudiating and blaming for Abos being like wolves to each other.

That's what all the Zimmer frames are chucked at here and on other threads like this.



You do realise that the3 expectation that they preserve4 themselves in cultural amber so as to not be hypocrites for utilising modernity is the reasoning of a child, don't you?


And seriously, not a very bright one.


The expectation, as with immigrants, is to assimilate. Not to cultivate parallel societies.

I am not the one who is constantly bringing up their ancient superstitions as 'proof' of spiritual connection to 'cuntry'

I am not the one who constantly talks up 40 thousand years of stagnation as a special achievement.

I am not treating ragtag bands of primitive, stunted, naked hunter gatherers as "nations" with whom you can treaty as legal equals.

I am not the one blocking development because of water spirits and magic bees.

And I am not they one constantly demanding more and more compo for being brought out of the primitive Stone Age into the light of schools, medicine, showers, libraries, Toyotas and green slabs (VB). Nor am I the one who brutally mistreats his wife, neglects his children and is pissed by midday on western grog 9 but is told to blames it all on people thousands of km away in big cities.




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Re: elders write children's book in Noongar
Reply #27 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 5:37pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 2:54pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 1:55pm:
And this is how you lot react when someone writes a book.

Christ on a bike you're pathetic. It's an absolute pile-up of twisted zimmer frames in the race to the bottom.



Who taught aborigines to read and write? Red in claw wacistislamophobeopressivecolonialistevil whitey.

Just one of the many, many boons and blessings of civilisation. You know, the civilisation that Abo activist spend their lives repudiating and blaming for Abos being like wolves to each other.

That's what all the Zimmer frames are chucked at here and on other threads like this.



You do realise that the3 expectation that they preserve4 themselves in cultural amber so as to not be hypocrites for utilising modernity is the reasoning of a child, don't you?


And seriously, not a very bright one.


So you mean they have some absolute entitlement to have it both ways?  Just whenever they choose?  I can be a barbarian when I want, but ensure that I rape civilisation of its goodies?
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Re: elders write children's book in Noongar
Reply #28 - Yesterday at 4:14am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 4:52pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 2:54pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 1:55pm:
And this is how you lot react when someone writes a book.

Christ on a bike you're pathetic. It's an absolute pile-up of twisted zimmer frames in the race to the bottom.



Who taught aborigines to read and write? Red in claw wacistislamophobeopressivecolonialistevil whitey.

Just one of the many, many boons and blessings of civilisation. You know, the civilisation that Abo activist spend their lives repudiating and blaming for Abos being like wolves to each other.

That's what all the Zimmer frames are chucked at here and on other threads like this.



You do realise that the3 expectation that they preserve4 themselves in cultural amber so as to not be hypocrites for utilising modernity is the reasoning of a child, don't you?


And seriously, not a very bright one.


The expectation, as with immigrants, is to assimilate. Not to cultivate parallel societies.

I am not the one who is constantly bringing up their ancient superstitions as 'proof' of spiritual connection to 'cuntry'

I am not the one who constantly talks up 40 thousand years of stagnation as a special achievement.

I am not treating ragtag bands of primitive, stunted, naked hunter gatherers as "nations" with whom you can treaty as legal equals.

I am not the one blocking development because of water spirits and magic bees.

And I am not they one constantly demanding more and more compo for being brought out of the primitive Stone Age into the light of schools, medicine, showers, libraries, Toyotas and green slabs (VB). Nor am I the one who brutally mistreats his wife, neglects his children and is pissed by midday on western grog 9 but is told to blames it all on people thousands of km away in big cities.






No but you are the one endlessly spraying spittle on us all because everyone is not just like you.

And speaking of you and assimilation, you know we prosecuted nazism in WW2, right? You lost. Your ideas are not only odious in the extreme, they are traitorous to the country that you sought to make a life in.

In Australia, we don't take too kindly to people saying things like "slavery ended too soon". If you don;t believe me, go say it at happy hour in any pub in the land.

If, for a moment, you stopped spraying spittle about about different to you, you may start noticing ways in which you are alike with these people. The more attention you pay to that, the more the observations will multiply. It is possible that with practice, you might stop being such a miserable bastard.

And before you know it, you'll be a real live boy!

Look Fruitbat, it is indeed possible to be multicultural. The absolute best we can hope for is that our First Nations people are embraced by us as a country and that within both ethical and actual law, as much of their culture is preserved as much as possible.

If you cannot find within yourself the impetus to actually look for a single aspect of their culture that you find interesting or even admirable (who am i kidding), then you can think of it as purely academic. We have a unique opportunity to grow in understanding with the oldest contigunous population of people on the face of the earth. And we are here at a time when the sciences and humanities that seek to learn are better equipped to do so than ever before.

Indeed this is a remarkable opportunity.

And then there's you lot. Lost in you fart dust.


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Reply #29 - Yesterday at 4:15am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 5:37pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 2:54pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 1:55pm:
And this is how you lot react when someone writes a book.

Christ on a bike you're pathetic. It's an absolute pile-up of twisted zimmer frames in the race to the bottom.



Who taught aborigines to read and write? Red in claw wacistislamophobeopressivecolonialistevil whitey.

Just one of the many, many boons and blessings of civilisation. You know, the civilisation that Abo activist spend their lives repudiating and blaming for Abos being like wolves to each other.

That's what all the Zimmer frames are chucked at here and on other threads like this.



You do realise that the3 expectation that they preserve4 themselves in cultural amber so as to not be hypocrites for utilising modernity is the reasoning of a child, don't you?


And seriously, not a very bright one.


So you mean they have some absolute entitlement to have it both ways?  Just whenever they choose?  I can be a barbarian when I want, but ensure that I rape civilisation of its goodies?


Both ways? What the actual hell?

My god but you're stupid.
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