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Reply #60 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 11:20am
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 10:05am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 1:32pm:
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under-16s in Australia have already found ways around the government's new social media ban, primarily by using parents' details, moving to non-banned apps (like Discord, Lemon8, Yope), or using VPNs, with parents helping and tech companies warning of the challenges, making it a "game of whack-a-mole" for regulators.


so the ultimate decider is the parent .... great, that'll make FD happy Cheesy Cheesy


You think it makes me happy for children to be giving their parent's personal information to tech companies?

Have you understood any of the criticisms of this law?
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Reply #61 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 11:26am
 
It's just a power play of the Media Left ALP against the Internet Right.
The Media is even trying to take control and influence over the Internet by introducing the Podcast Award in their Globe/Oscar Awards - the nominations are all Lefty Podcasters obviously  Roll Eyes
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #62 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 12:15pm
 
Just been reading that 2 page article from my earlier post.

Here's a small extract from it.

I tell you what - it's a good thing I wasn't sitting at my PC having a drink when I read the highlighted part or I would have had to spend the rest of the morning cleaning the monitor.

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Re: Social media restrictions
Reply #63 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 12:20pm
 
Carl D wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 11:04am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 10:09am:
What's FML?   Undecided



I was wondering the same thing myself. Never heard of it until now. But, I just found this:

https://www.babbel.com/en/magazine/what-does-fml-mean “F My Life.”

I was thinking FMD (F Me Dead) might have been more appropriate but the paper would probably have been in a bit of trouble if they'd used that.  Grin


Yeah, that's new to me.

Never heard of that before.

I'm one of those annoying people who uses full words and correct punctuation when sending text messages  Smiley

If someone sends me a text saying "HRU?", I usually don't answer.

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Reply #64 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 12:31pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 11:20am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 10:05am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 1:32pm:
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under-16s in Australia have already found ways around the government's new social media ban, primarily by using parents' details, moving to non-banned apps (like Discord, Lemon8, Yope), or using VPNs, with parents helping and tech companies warning of the challenges, making it a "game of whack-a-mole" for regulators.


so the ultimate decider is the parent .... great, that'll make FD happy Cheesy Cheesy


You think it makes me happy for children to be giving their parent's personal information to tech companies?

Have you understood any of the criticisms of this law?


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

learn to read English before going into hysterics Cheesy
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Reply #65 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 6:10pm
 
Ten year old told me this afternoon all you got to do is get a vpn and put it in front of your isp and they don’t know your in Australia?

Note- I have no clue what she was talking about but apparently it’s free and you don’t need to buy a stupid mask from Temu?

I feel so old 😒
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"Whoever the next government is will be more aware and will need to be more accountable."

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Reply #66 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 7:29pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Dec 9th, 2025 at 6:10pm:
Ten year old told me this afternoon all you got to do is get a vpn and put it in front of your isp and they don’t know your in Australia?

Note- I have no clue what she was talking about but apparently it’s free and you don’t need to buy a stupid mask from Temu?

I feel so old 😒


Virtual Private Network.

Yeah, but the social media companies are supposed to be on the lookout for this when restrictions for under 16's start tomorrow.

For example, if someone under 16 is in Australia today (according to their IP address) and then appears to be in, say, the United States from tomorrow onwards then that is supposed to raise a 'red flag' with the social media companies and they are expected to take action, especially if lots and lots of under 16's don't appear to be in Australia anymore from tomorrow which I'm certain is going to happen.

But, I'm guessing the social media companies will just ignore it for as long as they can get away with it. Which will probably be forever.
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Reply #67 - Dec 9th, 2025 at 8:09pm
 
News break ..... for a week before Adlertag I've been dog-fighting wave after wave of Kidwaffe bombers and fighters coming over the Channel in numbers daily - from here and the US... some of the US ones are also closed down - apparently Farcebook got the message.. and fears of another multi-billion dollar class action made them see things with a right mind.

I said long ago now that hospitals had the ability to keep out specified sites - just as one example...... so it would appear that the technology has already way out-stripped all of us.... and shutting down Dorkhanders is a matter of pushing a button.... and I think you'll find that the techs are already way in front of you.

Now - back to the hospitals' ability to exclude sites... it is only a matter of marketing for parents to get the same... and with the incredible advance of AI - not before time.

I approached Facebook's legals about providing a safe space for all to discuss openly and freely without vicious posts in return..... and the air is clean over Facebook at the moment.....

So - next comment?

I'll start - is it time that the internet was brought under proper control given the verbal violence and abuse that has poured from many over it for far too long?  Kids have suicided because of bullying and trolling, so a 'clean' internet is best for everyone... and now adult-minded people can discuss properly.... and sites such as predators who chat kids into cutting off their balls and such, and paedophile sites grooming - can be fully investigated, though Australia lacks the resources of - say - the US - where the FBI does this work...

Second comment - are there REAL dangers in that for freedom of speech and freedom of the airwaves for exchange of ideas - even ones we don't like?  JFK once said that the free exchange of ideas was one guarantee of a free society... he didn't mean free exchange of secure information etc.

Third comment:-  Is the surging of AI a danger to real communication between individuals and especially to young and vulnerable minds?

So where do we stand now, my fine feathered acolytes?
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Reply #68 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 9:45am
 
I just asked my 12 year old next door neighbour how it would affect him, he said not at all as he has an American IP.

I see it as the proverbial thin edge of universal censorship.
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Reply #69 - Dec 10th, 2025 at 10:08am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 10th, 2025 at 9:45am:
I just asked my 12 year old next door neighbour how it would affect him, he said not at all as he has an American IP.

I see it as the proverbial thin edge of universal censorship.


Having a US IP will depend on which platform they use now - a few massive lawsuits have finally brought the Internet Kings to the table over proper standards - and many of the accounts claiming to be US - on Facebook - that ganged up on me (poor bastards) are now gone as well. A few billion in fines and damages scars them.

In terms of universal censorship - the danger is that 'enemies of the state' so proclaimed can be cut off simply for holding unpopular views - and the government of the day can mandate that any dissidents etc be shut down.  Anyone who does not yet know the historical precedents of where that kind of thing leads is beyond help.

We already have a media which is hopelessly tilted to one  version of reality - and which automatically gives little airplay to the 'other' sides of question, and in one way, the internet has been until now a free highway for information, although with a lot of bad things also passing through - a lot of disinformation and misinformation and frankly indoctrination and propaganda.

My view has always been that genuinely held views should be publicly aired so that the people can decide for themselves.  I note a massive increase in pro-Islamic posts these days and their upset over being forced to live in a country different from their often harsh Dark Ages ideas - to most of which I respond with a laugh.

So I suggest we need a national discussion of this.... not just the same old shady back-room super-indoctrinated twits making judgements for all of society based on some infantile ideology long outgrown by Humanity - those so-called experts, such as those determining 'land rights claims' and similar madness at this time.

The people, for the first time in Australia - must take control over the process.  You saw what happened with the 'voice' madness - the people said NO - so were back-stabbed as being the worthless peasants they are viewed as by those in 'power'.  The greatest danger to democracy these days is governments.....
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Reply #70 - Dec 11th, 2025 at 2:51pm
 
lol... who didn't see this coming (apart from the pollies, that is)?

Teens are having so much fun getting around the teen social media ban

Anthony Albanese said the ban was to ‘let kids be kids’. So far, that’s proving true, with many breaking the rules and mocking his authority.

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Teens are joyfully flouting Australia’s teen social media ban, using the maligned services to boast of their abilities to circumvent the rules and playfully taunt the prime minister for failing to keep them offline.

The first official day of the ban was marked by widespread circumvention of the ban, with wall-to-wall media coverage of young Australians saying they had no issue accessing social media despite the restrictions.


The rest is paywalled but you get the idea.

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I see Lemon8 has now been added to the restricted list and I'm sure others will follow soon.

I'm also sure that new apps will keep appearing to get around the restrictions. "Whack-A-Mole" comes to mind.

I wonder how much taxpayers' money is being spent on all of this? I'm betting lots.
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Reply #71 - Dec 11th, 2025 at 4:07pm
 
Well, social media bans are now in force.
What is to come is the age verification for search engines on 27/12/2025.

That is going to be big!   I guess, we all have to verify to google and yahoo soon. 
I can just see the data being hacked and sold by hackers.   Cry
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Reply #72 - Dec 11th, 2025 at 4:11pm
 
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Reply #73 - Dec 11th, 2025 at 4:36pm
 
“Asked whether expectations should be tightened, Mr Albanese said he did not want to "influence that from the top"

I suggest perhaps he should be influencing from the top as opposed to wasting millions more of taxpayer money on a social media ban debacle.

Just like Anika Wells- it doesn’t work
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"Whoever the next government is will be more aware and will need to be more accountable."

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Reply #74 - Dec 11th, 2025 at 4:54pm
 
Millions of pikin dem and teenagers wey dey under di age of 16 no go get access to dia social media accounts again for Australia.

Dis dey come as di kontri don start di first ban for pikin for sicial media for di wold.

Instagram, Facebook, Threads, X, Snapchat, Kick, Twitch, TikTok, Reddit and YouTube dey among di platforms wey must to enforce di new laws.

For di new law, deM no go punish pikin or dia parents, if dem break am ooo, na di companies go collect. Di punishment na fines wey fit reach up to A$49.5m (US$32m, £25m).

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