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Reply #75 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 5:10pm
 
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Reply #76 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 5:34pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 7:15am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2025 at 5:57pm:
Australian culture is about welcoming all comers, regardless of race, religion or skin colour.
Frank refuses to integrate. Frank thinks those that refuse to integrate should be deported. Frank should be deported.



So proud to live in a country that has been so wonderfully infused by so many different cultures. All the best bits.

The worst is soon chipped away.

And so we excel in so many ways.

Multicultural Australia is the Australia i am proud of.


If you can think of ANY positive improvement that Islam brings to the West generallh or Australia in particular, let us know what it is.
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Reply #77 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 6:02pm
 
Probably it shows that Christian nations have colonised every one of the Muslim countries. In contrast, Islam rarely colonises the West.  And it has good cameleers, ask the Commonwealth Railways.
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Reply #78 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 6:08pm
 
chimera wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 6:02pm:
Probably it shows that Christian nations have colonised every one of the Muslim countries. In contrast, Islam rarely colonises the West.  And it has good cameleers, ask the Commonwealth Railways.

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You are an ignorant fool.  Can you read maps? Can you read, come to think of it.

Christian Roman Empire.
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Ottoman Empire

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Reply #79 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 6:24pm
 
Yes, 'rarely'. You underlined it, see?
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Reply #80 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 7:19pm
 
chimera wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 6:24pm:
Yes, 'rarely'. You underlined it, see?

Conquering the entire Roman Empire.

England rarely conquered Australia, NZ, India, North America, parts of Africa, the Middle East, Ireland, Wales, Scotland,

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Reply #81 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 8:35pm
 
The West is not Africa and Middle East. Ottomans took the Balkans, Bulgaria and Greece. That's all they had in Europe.
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Reply #82 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 8:47pm
 
Scotland had Nova Scotia. Norway had Greenland. Denmark in Iceland. Holland in Java and South Africa. Belgium in Congo. France in America, SE Asia, Pacific, Africa, Lebanon, Sudan, Egypt. Spain had Americas, Africa, Philippines. Portugal of Americas, Java, India. Italy in Africa. Germany had Africa, New Guinea. England had a few, probably easier to say where it had no colony.
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Reply #83 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 9:03pm
 
chimera wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 8:47pm:
Scotland had Nova Scotia. Norway had Greenland. Denmark in Iceland. Holland in Java and South Africa. Belgium in Congo. France in America, SE Asia, Pacific, Africa, Lebanon, Sudan, Egypt. Spain had Americas, Africa, Philippines. Portugal of Americas, Java, India. Italy in Africa. Germany had Africa, New Guinea. England had a few, probably easier to say where it had no colony.

Spreading civilisation to the backward part of the world.

No good?

Western colonialism improved every corner of the world, especially British colonialism.

Islamic colonisation degraded every part it touched.

This is obvious to even the most cursory observation. The West improves, Islam degrades.

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Reply #84 - Dec 8th, 2025 at 9:18pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 7:19pm:
chimera wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 6:24pm:
Yes, 'rarely'. You underlined it, see?

Conquering the entire Roman Empire.

England rarely conquered Australia, NZ, India, North America, parts of Africa, the Middle East, Ireland, Wales, Scotland,



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Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 9:03pm:
The West improves, Islam degrades.


I'm not keen on Islam but the facts are:
'Moorish civilization in Spain (Al-Andalus) was a prosperous Islamic culture that ruled much of the Iberian Peninsula from 711 to 1492, bringing major advancements in science, math, medicine, arts, and architecture, flourishing with universities, libraries, and sophisticated cities like Cordoba, leaving a lasting legacy on Spanish language, culture, and European knowledge. These North African Muslims (Moors) established a sophisticated society where Muslims, Jews, and Christians coexisted for centuries, introducing new crops, advanced irrigation, paper, and Arabic numerals before their eventual expulsion by Catholic monarchs.
Education & Science: Flourishing centers of learning with universities (e.g., in Cordoba, Granada, Seville), vast libraries, and advancements in astronomy, medicine (experimentation, surgery), mathematics (Arabic numerals), and philosophy.
Architecture: Renowned for masterpieces like the Alhambra in Granada, intricate irrigation systems, public baths (hammams), and sophisticated urban planning with streetlights and paved roads in cities.
Agriculture & Technology: Introduced new crops (oranges, lemons, peaches, sugar cane) and technologies, including paper, to Europe.
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Spain then became Catholic and invaded Britain. It destroyed Canary Islands culture then the Sth American cultures and enslaved them, stealing their gold and silver.


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Reply #86 - Yesterday at 5:53am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2025 at 7:19pm:
England rarely conquered Australia,

Muslims had two colonising powers which never reached beyond south Europe. Europe had about twelve which colonised all Muslim states.  'Rare' means two against twelve.
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Reply #87 - Yesterday at 6:30am
 
Here we go:
'Ottoman culture had a sophisticated legal and administrative system and architectural achievements, including the Hagia Sophia. The culture also developed rich traditions in calligraphy, textiles, and ceramics.
Religious communities like Orthodox Christians and Jews had a degree of autonomy. Public spaces were central to social life, with coffeehouses acting as hubs for men and bathhouses serving as the primary public venues for women to socialize and discuss public affairs.
The Ottomans made significant advancements in science, mathematics, and medicine. They developed sophisticated systems for education, law, and administration, with major developments occurring in calligraphy and military science.

Concepts of hospitality were strong, reflected in institutions like public drinking fountains and soup kitchens. Ottoman culture influenced Western art, which admired the beauty of balance and detail found in Ottoman art.'

British destroyed Indian common-land which gave some income to any needy Indians. They tied Indians to cannon mouths after the Mutiny and fired. A famine was intentionally caused in Bengal in the 1940s.
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Reply #88 - Yesterday at 9:34am
 
Here is a plot of human social development in the west vs China:

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https://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/heavy-legacies-our-past.html

This is based on several different metrics of social and economic development. The peak around 2000 years ago in the west was the Roman Republic/Empire. The low point was Islam - it didn't cause it, but it locked it in. Western civilisation did not reach similar levels of development to the Romans until well into the industrial revolution. This happened in the judeo-christian fringe of western civilisation, which had been largely taken over by Islam. To this day, Islam is still causing the middle east and north africa to be one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth. Quite a turnaround for the place that for almost all of human history was the most advanced civilisation on earth.
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Reply #89 - Yesterday at 9:45am
 
athos wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 11:53am:
What is the difference between British and Australian national and cultural identity
and how can non-Anglo-Saxon Australians integrate into it?

Please explain
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