The law is clear on this Executive orders and Pardons must be signed personally by the President the autopen isn't valid.

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Every executive order and pardons Trump  signed was witnessed and on video with media present.

I think this should be the case with every EO and Pardon there is enough media hanging around the White House to witness and video this happening.

The Autopen signing these documents while Joe was having an afternoon nap with no witnesses is clear case of fraud.

Sums up the entire Biden term, let alone how he became President in the first place.

Trump will cry when they cancel his EO's and pardons

Trump doesn't even know who he has pardoned in at least one case...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/03/trump-changpeng-zhao-cz-pardon-c...

Biden's right hand

Leroy wrote on Nov 29^th, 2025 at 11:59pm:


A bit light on attention today, Leroy?

The thread title is deliberately misleading, he hasn't cancelled anything. He's simply as desperate for attention as you are right now.

It's also highly doubtful he even has the legal authority to do it. The use of an autopen, or similar device, by US presidents has a long and uncontroversial history. Past presidents, including Barack Obama, Thomas Jefferson and others, used them without issue.

There is no constitutional requirement that pardons or most executive actions be personally hand-signed by the president to be valid.

And pardons in particular are a brick wall for him: once granted and accepted, they're traditionally considered final and irrevocable. There's no recognised legal mechanism that allows a later president to nullify them because of the signature method.

Trump should be thankful for that.

One 1869 court ruling is repeatedly cited: once a pardon is complete, there is no power to revoke it, regardless of how it was signed.

So this whole thing is a nothing story cooked up by a President whose polling numbers are in freefall, who's drowning in scandals, from his entanglements with child sex traffickers and he protecting of them (and/or himself) by supressing and redacting the Epstein files, to ignoring lawful court orders that led to the injurry and deaths of US soldiers, to his visibly declining health, and who is desperate for something, anything, to spin as a win and whip the deplorables back into a frenzy.

And as we can see with the reactions from the usual suspect, it's working, and they won't care that he can't legally do any of this.

It's presidential cope, dribbling down his leg to the MAGA faithful who've been copping a relentless barrage of losses lately, which makes this even funnier, because by design, it's already a loss unless he breaks the law. Again.

Bobby. wrote Today at 11:01am:


He's already slinking away from his tariff chest-beating because the trade war he detonated, the workers he's expelled, and the cost-of-living surge he's deliberately engineered are all driving inflation, suffocating employment and, when combined with his record-shattering government spending, dragging the economy towards the cliff's edge.

That's why he's scrambling to suppress all the October and quarterly reporting, desperate to keep the public from seeing the damage in cold print.

It's not just Epstein he's trying to cover up anymore...

"Winning"

tallowood wrote Today at 10:13am:



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