It's always been intriguing to me as to whether
The lefty intellectuals    Happened to be experiencing jealousy or envy towards the big fella

But I read a very interesting article which explained the difference

Envy would be that they would like to have power , fame ,cash, a hot wife, millions of people listening to them and a lot of influence in The world .

Jealousy would be that they would also want the same things for themselves. BUT CRUCIALLY they don't want the object of their envy to have them
His or her happiness and achievements must be destroyed .

So jealousy is a more hateful spiteful emotion.

From my study of the leftie intellectuals , I think we can say that they nearly all.operate from jealousy.

Getting their desires satisfied is nowhere near enough
They want to see others who they have never met destroyed.

A lot of this probably comes from childhood trauma and  victim.identity.

Maybe we can start to heal the leftie intellectuals by acknowledging their real.pain and giving them a hug

Dear divide.

If the lefties were envious, they would study success and try to emulate it.
For example, they would have 100s of threads getting behind the next democrat candidate.
They would be laser focused on that person and having him or her be all he could be.

To aspire to replace Trump and get what he has .
The competitive frame.
This brings out the best in people, excellence, grit determination.

Instead. Say on this sub forum. I can find nothing about who the next democrat even is.
No positive narrative.
Just hate for Trump and leave it at that.

The downfall of Trump is the only concern, no aspiration but to destroy someone.
Why not simply out frame him by offering something superior.
Yet they offer nothing.

Very negative and very victim based and stuck and helpless.
Like your narrative.

If there are homeless people , get off your ass, create a business and go help.
What's stopping you but your own limiting beliefs and success barriers

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2025 at 9:27am:


You were talking about (envious? or jealous?) "leftie intellectuals".

In the post above, prof. Steve Keen - who is neither envious or jealous - has outlined the REAL cause of political and economic dysfunction, as opposed to your 'successful superior man' fantasies. 


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OK,  so now you are not talking about 'leftie intellectuals', but ordinary people who need to succeed - despite the current Neoclassical mainstream economic orthodoxy which is rendering governments incapable of proper macro-economic management.

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Mamdani?

Extremely positive, capable and charismatic - a 'superior man' and a "communist" to boot, who even Trump has decided it would be smart to praise....

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Yes,  the ordinary voter who knows nothing of economics - which is why society is splitting - will either hate or love Trump, whether or not  envy plays a role. 

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Can you please state where my, or Keen's,  observations are "very negative", citing specific samples from what Keen or I have written in this thread?

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The macro-economy;  houses and rents  are now too expensive for average wage earners. Note: affordable housing and personal space is a prerequisite for creating a business  or landing a job.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2025 at 8:12am:


This is an obvious troll by horseboy, but here goes.
A 34 times convicted felon
Banned from operating any charity after stealing $2 million.
26 accusations of sexual assault.
Found libel for sexual assualt in civil court, costing him $80 million.
Twice smacking the US economy, too dumb to learn from history.
Worst president in history, twice.
Impeached, twice, with more to come 
I could go on and on detailing trumps "accomplisments" but surely theres enough in that list to say,
What is there to be jealous of?
Envy?
Envy what ?
A hot wife, already got one.
Money, already made my money, sitting back in retirement very satisfied with my lot in life.

As for you studying "leftie intellectuals" its never happened, no leftie intellectual would spend more than 3 mins talking to you before walking away shaking their head and wondering how you escaped getting a darwin award.
Talk about deluded.

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Causes? Government policies.

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2025 at 12:55pm:



That's Sprinty, pre his rapid onset TDS.

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2025 at 1:03pm:




Very poor comprehension. The message was for successful people with money and a hot wife such as scope to get off their ass and go help

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2025 at 1:03pm:



SIlly grimacing old trouser-snake wrestler, you no speaka, eh?



"Divide, get off you arse, create a business and help the homeless - rather than kvetch endlessly like a ****ing Negative Nigel. WHat is stopping you from actually helping instead of just tearing down?"

That is the meaning of what you highlighted, paki.