Australian Politics Forum - Calls to end water extraction

Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 45205	Calls to end water extraction Nov 24^th, 2025 at 10:37am Calls to end water extraction from Great Artesian Basin before culturally significant springs are lost
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 114557 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Calls to end water extraction Reply #1 - Nov 24^th, 2025 at 10:48am Brian, the Abbos don't own the Great Artesian Basin. forgiven namaste
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 32295 Gender:	Re: Calls to end water extraction Reply #2 - Nov 24^th, 2025 at 11:37am Brian Ross wrote on Nov 24^th, 2025 at 10:37am: Calls to end water extraction from Great Artesian Basin before culturally significant springs are lost Our inland cattle & sheep industry also relies on the GAB.
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89152 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Calls to end water extraction Reply #3 - Nov 24^th, 2025 at 12:56pm Welcome to country, suckers.... now do as the landlord tells you... and don;t forget who handed you all this endless sh i t ....
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3194 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Calls to end water extraction Reply #4 - Nov 24^th, 2025 at 3:20pm There is also the wellbeing of wild animals.to be considered.
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kU6mdn74 Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 51	Re: Calls to end water extraction Reply #5 - Nov 24^th, 2025 at 4:14pm Is it time to introduce Fremen of Arrakis water extraction technology?
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 53974 Gender:	Re: Calls to end water extraction Reply #6 - Nov 24^th, 2025 at 4:34pm kU6mdn74 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2025 at 4:14pm: Is it time to introduce Fremen of Arrakis water extraction technology? 😆
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Re: Calls to end water extraction
Reply #7 - Nov 24^th, 2025 at 4:50pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 24^th, 2025 at 3:20pm:

There is also the wellbeing of wild animals.to be considered.

Fair point - so - with all the mighty flooding up that way - why is there no water going into the aquifer? Or is this another fantasy story for gain?

Now hold on a moment there...

"The water in aquifers under the Australian Outback comes primarily from rainfall that has seeped through the ground in the eastern, wetter parts of the continent, a process known as recharge. This water then slowly moves underground, often for thousands of years, to be stored in the Great Artesian Basin, one of the world's largest underground aquifers. It's a vast, ancient store of groundwater, with some water in the Great Artesian Basin dating back over a million years."

"In the Great Artesian Basin, the water is under pressure, which allows it to be accessed through bores, where it can shoot to the surface without pumping, or emerge naturally as springs in the landscap".

So at what point has there been less rainfall and flooding etc to fill these aquifers? This is a bullshit flexing of the 'traditional owner' muscles over some idea of 'control over land, water and resources'....

So - where is the solid and reliable evidence?

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Reply #8 - Nov 24^th, 2025 at 4:55pm

Let's bore a little deeper:-

"For over 150 years, uncontrolled bore drilling led to significant water loss, with estimates suggesting the basin loses a massive amount of water each year through uncontrolled free-flowing bores and bore drains. This caused water pressure to drop and led to a large number of bores becoming unusable."

So lemme get this right - this is a self-regulating system - when it reaches a point where the underground water has been lowered too far - the water stops flowing to the top until it is restored by natural rainfall. The problems are from allowing free running flow from bores - which quite naturally leads to evaporation.

" Recent assessments show that groundwater pressure is improving, and the number of natural springs is increasing due to efforts to cap and pipe bores, which significantly reduces water loss."....

So it's coming back from a short term deficit - and there is no problem other than a little hysteria, including throwing in a little 'climate change' catastrophism and fantasy. There is no reliable science... it's all highly convenient guesswork.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89152 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Calls to end water extraction Reply #9 - Nov 24^th, 2025 at 6:50pm Boys... BOYS!!! This conversation seems to have.... dried up.... I didn't want to be a wet blanket or bore you ...
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25112 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Calls to end water extraction Reply #10 - Nov 25^th, 2025 at 1:23am You live in the desert for decades. Only now you are concerned about water?
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Reply #11 - Nov 25^th, 2025 at 9:57am

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 25^th, 2025 at 1:23am:

You live in the desert for decades. Only now you are concerned about water?

Fair point - but 40,000 years ago Aboriginal geologists mapped the Aquifer and they understand it far better than any Wharte Man scientist... that arcane knowledge is passed down through the generations and is sacred song line knowledge, you understand.

Reading through the blurb stuff I put down there it all sounds like convenient hokum to me. Water rushes up due to pressure... clearly it can only rush up until it de-pressurises and is at ground level..... then when Big Wet flooding comes, fills up again... the only way it could be diminished below just under ground level would be if it was pumped and pumped during the Dry ... all it means really is that instead of the saline springs, any wanderer has to do a Lawrence of Arabia and throw down a bucket... but hey - they don't do that wandering thing any more... they's all settled in 'communities' and want it all out of the Wharte Man's pocket from dat Cargo Cult.

This is a demand for 'control over water, land and resources' (and thus control over the entire nation) ... straight out of the failed Voice playbook.

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kU6mdn74 Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 51	Re: Calls to end water extraction Reply #12 - Nov 25^th, 2025 at 12:00pm “Water, water, everywhere and not a drop to drink.” These hydropolitics eventually will become potential trigger for civil unrest if not hydrowars.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 45205	Re: Calls to end water extraction Reply #13 - Nov 26^th, 2025 at 9:40am Traditional owners travel to Darwin as fight over aquifer reaches NT Supreme Court
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89152 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Calls to end water extraction Reply #14 - Nov 26^th, 2025 at 9:51am Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26^th, 2025 at 9:40am: Traditional owners travel to Darwin as fight over aquifer reaches NT Supreme Court Well - that is exciting - so now they own the underground water. If the dopey courts give in to this one - one step closer to Civil War again. Stupid is as stupid does.
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